Let’s just compare overseas trips.
Jacinda: Talks gun control at Harvard, signs $1.8b trade deal, gains citizenship rights for Kiwis in Australia and negotiates a new deal on 501s starting a gang war in NZ.
Quisling Traitor Luxon: After visiting far right think tank Policy Exchange and ruminating on NZ needing more deregulation, Quisling Traitor Luxon then takes a huge steaming shit on NZ…
‘New Zealand got it wrong’: The man vying to topple Jacinda Ardern and open up the nation
New Zealand has become fearful, inward and negative as a result of its COVID settings and owes its expatriates an apology for locking them out during the pandemic, Christopher Luxon, the man vying to oust Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, has said.
New Zealand’s opposition leader made the comments in a wide-ranging interview with The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age in London.
…these born to rule rich prick National Party leaders have the audacity of shitting on NZs sacrifice and fight against Covid on the international stage. It’s a reminder that the National Party has no problem undermining NZ for political gain, just like John Key did all those years ago as a trader when he made his fortune betting against NZ.
NZers sacrificed to fight Covid and we are living with that sacrifice right now with the extra economic cost, but let’s be very clear here, Jacinda, Labour and the health experts saved this country from almost 3000 extra deaths!
3000 extra deaths! Imagine the tsunami of grief that would have washed over us if we hadn’t implemented the measures we have now. Yes our death rates are picking up now, but that doesn’t mean the lives we saved and the measures taken to save those lives were somehow worthless!
To have National taking a huge smelly creamy dump on the sacrifice we all went through for the common good, to manipulate the current grumpiness and exhaustion from the ongoing fight against Covid into writing the entire thing off is a narrative change of Orwellian proportions!
Do not allow your anger and frustration at the Virus continuing to impact us to be manipulated by the Right into thinking they have any solutions to your current pain.
They fucking don’t!
It was their underfunding of our public health system that is being crushed right now that is part of the problem here!
If you think National and ACT are the solution to our current problems, you are the problem!
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Voters won’t give a rats about Jacinda’s international trips or a trade deal that starts in 2035. Voters will care for what’s the happening at home. On tv3 this morning a jeweller who was smashed and grabbed in bright daylight in AKL use these words: “Worse that Johannesburg!” Think about that for a second. So If you believe Labour and the Greens are the solution to our current problems, you are the problem! Law and order will decide the election. Labour are dead already.
Hey Cabbage, You can do better than this. Law and order is inevitably a soft-option election issue. It’s the underlying factors which are important here, and it could be an unknown as to how many voters care or know about child povidy, homelessness, low wage economy, rundown health system, and a crippled education system now surreally being responsible for overseeing Sepuloni’s anti-child empire. Labour isn’t responsible for all of this, just some of it. Bottom line is that most shops don’t get robbed, and most folk sleep safely in their homes, if they have homes. That’s the reality.
Annie, Law & Order is always an easy go to for politicians at election time and they are seldom keen to tackle the hard work of actually dealing with the underlying causes which you’ve outlined. We looked to Ardern’s Labour to do this hard work, to fix the parts of our society which had been run down, ignored or allowed to fester under previous Governments of all stripes. Labour has failed abysmally and things are considerably worse than when they took power in 2017. Instead of trying to fix things, they seem to be hunting around to find even more gasoline to throw on the fire, instead of trying to extinguish it. Next year they will probably lose the election and we’ll have a new National / ACT Government. Will things get better? Unlikely, given past history. This Labour Government has largely been a disappointment and a wasted opportunity.
Labour is now for the wilderness. They won’t be voted in again in my lifetime. Complete failure does not come close to describing how bad they have been.
Gosh how silly.
That’s almost an understatement MFP.
Cant be any worse than us tolerating Nationals crap for 9 years only for our dear leader to quit.
He ran to the highest bidder, ANZ.
Richard, what is the answer? Maybe Co-governance has some answers, because we all know these Pakeha Political parties sure as hell have made a dog’s breakfast of running this country for at least the past 50 years.
Time for urgent changes.
Dreadful disappointment full of promises devoid of accomplishments.
Yet they still have supporters?
“Worse that Johannesburg!” haha so when were you last in Jo burg? ….let me take a wild guess. Never.
Things are worse in NZ than I’ve ever known but comparing that to Jo burg is the stupidest statement I’ve read for decades.
OK how about worse as they have ever been in NZ? either way its not a good look for Labour
yeah, cause we have ramraids, smash n grab, shootings and murders is the kiwi way since ages ago
Well not since the great National party immigration ponzi scheme and no push backs on 501s when Key was weak as cats piss.
Just before COVID hit immigration numbers where at record highs and Jacinda has just given 200k residencies to anyone who wants one.
Get used to stupid statements from coward cabbage, he is the champion of them .
If Jacinda shot you in the head you would make an excuse for her. Your inputs are irrelevant as you cannot ever see any faults.
I don’t need to idiot, there’s enough irrelevant idiots like yourself with pathetic pseudonyms that make enough false shit up. You can’t even see the positives Keep it up though, you are good for a laugh.
If Jacinda shot anyone in the head two things would happen.
1) The world would be in shock.
2) The victim would not be saying anything let alone making excuses for the person that shot them 🙂
Only if it was lethal.
She would no doubt fail at that too.
Pirate
Blind faith is a sad reality with personality politics. That’s why I’m not voting National despite a new leader – I’ve read their policies and to date they’re simply not good enough. Same with their candidates and the way they sell themselves…too wishy washy. Something major would have to change for me to swing to Luxon.
Hey Cabbage, Don’t worry about Luxon, chances are the lad’s out there shooting down New Zealand to try and score himself another job. Who wants to be the leader of an imploding party of losers ? Key scarpered pretty quickly…
TM
Perception becomes reality mate – the AKL jeweler who used to have a jewellery shop in JHB said that on live TV. “Worse than Joburg!”. I should know, I used to live and work next to Hillbrow. Didn’t see you there Thinking Man? Howzat.
The Jeweler who was robbed by those young shitheels suffered a traumatic event. Nobody could debate that but context is everything. Has he been to Jo Burg or was that just a highly emotive statement from a crime victim who was shocked by what unfolded? It is also just one person. The next person could say they thought they were going to give birth to quads when it happened but that doesn’t make it so. I’ve lived in Auckland for 40 years. It’s not the same place it was that’s for certain. I’ve also visited Johannesburg three times and we are light years from that. If we get a line of ex pats from Jo Burg who’ve been robbed in Auckland saying they believe Auckland is worse than Jo Burg I would be mortified and it would get my attention. Context Kraut.
and for the record Kraut, you stated you didn’t see me there. That’s because I wasn’t there. Never said I was. That aside, how would you have known who to look for? I could be a five foot Korean, a 6ft Maori or a 7ft African-American NBA player. …..or were you just talking crap?
You assumed I had never even been to Joburg. I lived there. The jeweler also live there. I said so. So he knows what he’s talking about. In joburg they don’t send in 11 year-old in cars to ram raid.
Maybe not but they steal your kids from the traffic lights, why? Because I said so!
Context Thinker? The jeweler is on the radio now. He’s been hit 4 times. 3 times in last 7 months. He says it’s becoming and easy thing to do and he can’t understand what happens after they thugs appear in court when they get caught. The cops have their names and their locations and all info required, but there is not strong action, he says. In your words: You should be mortified and it should get your attention.
how many taxi van shootings in auck this week cabage…gas attacks on bars? ok I’ll make it easy how many mass shootings in auckland pubs?
interesting people like you always choose SA as a bad example(and it is) why?…are you an ex-boer or just find black rule personally objectionable…the US is just as good example of out of control crime.
Corrupt government is not acceptable regardless of race or colour.
not the question bob, nice swerve though, wanna try for NZ worse than SA
Thinking man, the guy in the jewelery store robbery, who has now been robbed 3 times in NZ, had lived and traded gold in Jo- berg for some years and “has never seen anything like this”.
Google up the news hub story and educate yourself on just what a shit state our country is being converted to.
and does he live there now or is he part of the boer exodus we sold citizenship to?
If he had opportunity to move then I’m sure he would have seized it.
bob the last, so why doesn’t he, if NZ is worse than jo-burg…it would be the logical move for him to go to a more law abiding country.
Yes Sour kraut National will build a billion dollar prison manned with foreign guards filled up with tangata whenua not exactly a good policy on law and order. Under National our prisons were bursting at the seams.
So let them go?
The laughable thing is go to the height of lockdowns ( especially pre Omicron) and National despite all the bleating we’re not that much different in their proposed response. From memory the vaccination target was lower for National, and they actually wanted to build a massive isolation hotel near Auckland airport.
Who are all these fearful people? Are they the ones that sold out Eden Park or Forsyth Barr stadium? The gates are open at the airport. Lex is now calling kiwis wimps?
He was rather general with his comments saying everyone has moved on ditched measures. Singapore might be moving on but they have plenty of measures in place according to a friend who just returned. You would also hope Europe is getting to enjoy the fact that it is the height of summer and like nowhere near flu season! Muppet.
3000 extra deaths?
Is that a prediction from the same guy that predicted 50,000 cases by Waitangi day?
From memory I think we had about 300?
Comparing with UK per capita it is nearer 15,000 deaths. We should be tanking Jacinda, Ash and the scientist and labour party for saving our lives. The NATZACT at the time said to follow Taiwan, Ireland, Singapore, AQustralia, Sydney, England , etc at different times. I think they got their medical advice from Garner and Hosking. NATZ and now under Luxon are a big failur4e. The old grumpy men hate Jacinda and Labour and now that Scomo, Trump and Boris have gone they have a hero in luxon never mind hes as useful as tits on a bull.
I’m happy to be your problem bro 🙂
Luxon is a treacherous scumbag and arse licker who has prostrated himself before the US and British imperialists to attack our country and government on the world stage.
The biggest Right Wing British Prime Minister and supporter of British and US imperialism of all time, Winston Churchill, who hated the British Labour Party and government with a passion, couldn’t bring himself to sink so low.
“When I am overseas I make it a point never to attack my country’s government. I make up for it when I get home.”,/b> Winston Spencer Churchill
Luxon’s like dreadful John Key, the archetypal nouveau riche boys, clueless and classless – too dim to know.
+1
Treachery and arselicking are essentially the modus operandi of all corporate wannabe’s like Potatohead.
A warning for the electorate – sometimes you will get what you vote for!
Yes great man Churchill particularly his definition of Socialism.
When describing Luxon Mr. O’Dea why do you revert to abusive language?
Have you vocabulary issues?
Well, he’s kinda not wrong.
Remember in September 2021. Dr. PM Arderns’s position on covid being a health issue, changed to being an economic issue and then started then to unwind the covid precautions.
Talk about principles!
Tane you mean like when vaccination rates we’re getting high enough to change approach? That’s kind of what you want I would think. We were still at level 3 so hardly think that was open slather.
And yeah, i dropped another comment for you to hide. Cause to boot, the left is censorious and too cowardly to let comments stand that are not the usual kumbaya they saved us bullshit.
Bullshit, I also dropped a comment the moderator didn’t let through so back in your rightard box. You talk shit. Try texting Hosking with a different opinion. Never get read in a trillion years!
It was probably incomprehensible.
Many of my comments don’t make it.
I think when I comment a red light alert is activated.
I suppose I should be flattered.
Ah there we go! ”Kumbaya” the old Creole, slave saying, come by here my lord, turned around by modern Christo fascists’ in the southern states to denigrate the liberal left.
Hairless idiot. Our lockdown was constantly cited overseas as a successful strategy, even if geographical isolation also played a part. He needs a testosterone shot to help him stop his pathetic whinging when he has more buffers than many of us navigating pandemic issues. Where have all the real men gone ?
what is a man?
So you don’t think people should be allowed
to criticize their own country’s policies? We did become pretty negative and inward-looking. Fortress Aotearoa anyone? Locking out overseas returnees? Not letting people see their dying relatives?
Freda. We did ok. Tough about not seeing dying relatives, but they’ve had lifetimes to do it in; terminally ill patients often have whanau descend who haven’t been near them for years. For every sad story played out in the media, there’s been quiet heroism as a new reality was coped with. Whether Luxon’s bleats were motivated by compassion is an unknown, but any twerp can pontificate retrospectively to irrelevant ears the way that he is, and of course he’s free to do so – he can stand on soap boxes on street corners if he wants to, his choice.
Horrid comment. You disgusting creature.
Thought so troll, don’t want to see positives, just so typical of your pathetic posts you horrid troll.
Calm down Bert stop the negativity try to be more happy.
With a Labour Government in power you should be ecstatic not all morose.
There was a time not too long ago when people emigrated they were unable to ever go home again for various reasons mainly they couldn’t afford it. Life went on without them family members were born and unfortunately died . The letter home was the only communication for many because relatives at home had no phones and had to use call boxes for urgent calls. The covid pandemic is reminiscent of these times reality set in for most people freedom was lost for a short time yes there was loss and horrible hardship, however you make the call to leave your country for whatever reason you must be made aware of the consequences . Even with almost open borders times have changed. The call to come home as quickly as possible has now become the call to leave as quickly as possible.
Moon Face. Nonsense. Had this country suffered the catastrophic consequences which some countries have as a result of the virus, Luxon may have had reason to whinge away about us overseas. But we didn’t. He just makes himself look a bit of an idiot and a cad doing what he did.
He let us down, but that’s no surprise if he’s one of John Key’s boys. This is the guy who couldn’t even walk a few yards up Bowen Street on his own two feet he was so impressed by himself – for no discernible reason.
Be thankful your not in China they wrap up and lockdown entire building and complexes with high fences and some have security guards watching them to ensure people don’t escape.
As usual Freda you are on the button.
yeah – thw ‘off’ button.
boo hoo – I was happy to be able to visit my living relatives from May 2020 to August 2021.The rest of the world had body bags and we had a life. If others couldn’t get in – too bad. It was worth it.
As usual billid you are on the button.
Not good diplomacy to run down your country shows Luxon has no class
Opposition have always done it?
It’s their job to hold the Government to scrutiny.
covid is pa . 100%. You said it, he has no class, and has he done himself no favours globally by running down his country like that. At least Ardern knows how to foot it overseas, but this bloke’s a back-blocks embarrassment.
We are getting our deaths now, all “we” (sacrifice primarily made by private sector business and employees and those who wouldn’t/couldn’t be vaxed) did was delay them.
Luxon is correct, we are bordering on a frightened basket case of incompetence and government fear propaganda, it’s all they’ve got.
Of course he’s correct , he’s right wing, right? Private sector taking part in the corrupt taking of government money( wage subsidy).
The only fear is your anti left, pro right propaganda.
Martyn was correct right wing trolls will always be negative.
Of course he’s correct , he’s right wing, right? Private sector taking part in the corrupt taking of government money( wage subsidy).
The only fear is your anti left, pro right propaganda.
Martyn was correct right wing trolls will always be negative.
Bert you are the most negative person I’ve ever encountered.
Perhaps it’s the crisis in the health sector doing to you?
He’s desperate for relevance. He’ll support any topic one week and then be against it the following week if he believes that will get him closer to being the PM. The quintessential $2 Shop Gold Rolex Watch.
Seymour is gaining all the attention and sucking oxygen from the media, Luxon needs to be relevant.
TM. He’s already relevant or we’re you so busy disliking him you didn’t notice. Can you tell us which topic he supported and then was against it the following week.
New view,
You’re correct. I don’t like Christopher Luxon but not because he’s the National Party leader. He’s a fake completely bereft of authenticity. I can tell you that authenticity is at the top of my list of priorities. Whatever you are, be real. Luxon is doing a wonderful job……of keeping his true self hidden from view. That action is worthy of contempt. If you win then win being who you are. Same applies if you lose.
His religious faith is absolutely his engine. As a country, we are past the time of that being reasonable. Devout Christian or Muslim etc etc should never be leading our country. He’s anti euthanasia despite NZ evolving to the point it’s now written into our law. In that area, he’s a Dinosaur.
He’s on record as being adamantly anti abortion which is a diabolical position for a potential NZ leader to hold. Just as woeful is him attempting to cosmetically dilute that position to avoid scaring voters off prior to an election. There is genuine cause for concern that his true position will only be declared after the vote.
NZ has been experiencing a low wage economy for some years. During the last National Government we were repeatedly told about an alleged ‘Rock Star Economy”. We did have a lot of National Party voters doing very nicely thanks very much but we had huge numbers of Kiwi’s struggling more than ever just to make ends meet. At the exact time we were allegedly experiencing the Rock Star Economy, the gap between rich and poor reached unprecedented levels in NZ. National not only displayed indifference to those Kiwis but claimed the reason they were struggling was because they were spending all their money at the Casino. Enter this Government and one of the things they got right was to lift the minimum wage. Christopher Luxon with all his many millions came out as being opposed to increasing the minimum wage. He’s since backed away from that position as he knows he will need a % of Labour voters to get him across the line in October 2023. Soon after he will show his true position. NZ doesn’t need another generation not trusting another PM.
He’s anti cannabis. Ardern is pro cannabis but chose not to openly declare that and influence an important referendum vote. Had she put her personal position on the table I feel cannabis would likely have been legalized. I don’t trust Luxon to keep his own position on important issues away from influencing others.
Another statement Luxon made last year highlighted just how far away he is from relating to kiwis. We have a housing crisis and many believe a big part of the problem are wealthy investors buying up multiple homes and paying close to zero tax on their enormous profits. As you know many businesses hit the wall last year and an increasing number of kiwis felt the financial strain of Covid lockdowns etc. Luxon was asked about just one of his investment properties that had increased in value by an average of thirty two thousand dollars every week for 52 weeks in a row. I’m not saying he should be embarrassed by that as I also enjoying making dosh. The part I dislike was his answer about this situation. He was blissfully unaware it had even happened. WTAF. This is a man trying to hoodwink kiwis that he can relate to them. I call epic bullshit on that. Authenticity is absent. With any PM, that is a dangerous situation.
You really don’t like him them.
New View the best summation of Luxon . He is an empty vessel trying to be relevant. Unfortunately he is sucking people in. He is dangerous and shows his ignorance every day. David Seymour will run rings around him if they get into government, so be careful what you wish for
Maybe, but they are sharing the same voting base New View and Luxon has a long way to go whilst Seymour keeps gaining attention. What Seymour has, is knowledge that any publicity is good publicity because his job is not on the line, not so for Luxon.
True Bert but while the Nats are ahead in the polls Luxon is relevant.
“Quisling Traitor Luxon!”
Why don’t you add in that Luxon is also an imperialist running-dog and you can have the entire North Korean-style denouncing?
Both sides of the uniparty are imperialist running dogs. Why repeat something that’s a given?
Ada,
Me thinks you’re rather fond of Christopher. Is it the bald head?
What has the bald head got to do with anything?
Bob the first,
You didn’t know some ladies find bald heads very sexy? Some good news. There are even a few ladies out there that find the intellectually challenged a bit sexy so keep your chin up.
Ha!
That’s another wild totally wrong guess and a projection from a TDB poster.
My point was that florid language of Martyn reminded me of the style used by the CCP and the North Korean regime to insult Enemies of the People….
Come on Ada. North Korea and the CCP?
Disagreeing with Martyn in a democracy is something I’m sure he’d welcome. Comparing him to dictatorial regimes is more than just a bit silly.
It was the use of the same overblown language for denouncing people.
Mind you, a NZ with Martyn having absolute power is a scary thought.
Ada. “ Borrom feeders” a la Luxon is worse than florid, and is a thoroughly obnoxious way to describe this country’s have-nots.
becausae he’s a lick spittle paper tiger of US imperialism I thought that much was obvious ada
It doesn’t seem that obvious to the majority of New Zealanders, or at least those outside of the TDB and The Standard readers.
And you would know how Ada?
so the radical humourectomy took did it ada?
He is cut from the same cloth as Sir John, thats for sure. Sir John made some of his millions betting against the kiwi dollar when he traded in currency at Merrill. Now Luxon is running down his own country internationally, at the same moment that Jacinda is patching things up with Biden+Boris+Albanese+Nato+pacific forum and getting an EU FTA deal done …….quite the contrast.
You obviously know nothing about the currency or currency trading you know even less about trade deals.
From Bob, whom knows nothing at all. Lecturing others on finance like you’re the only person allowed to comment. Do you even know Zoe Bob? Off with you troll.
Wow, just wow Bob cancelling Zoe, whom Bob is clueless to having any idea of Zoe”s background.
Try this Bob, Bob you obviously know nothing about the currency or currency trading you know even less about trade deals.
See, it’s really easy to have opinions.
Have extensive knowledge in that field.
Couldn’t allow such an erroneous comment to go unchallenged.
What knowledge, I certainly doubt that. I can’t let your erroneous comment go unchallenged, of which there are so, so many.
I had a business that traded internationally so worked every day in the currency market.
Could go on but not sure you would keep up.
Biden+Boris+Albanese+Nato+pacific forum don’t have to sleep rough now do they because she has failed them badly. A fake smile is worthless. She has ruined NZ.
Lots of us know that.
Chose personal fame over the people who supported her.
“He is cut from the same cloth as Sir John,”
Well that’s almost an understatement! He had Keys endorsement, so that’s a death knell..
Pretty strong language describing CL. I thought by his comments he believed our initial Covid response was good but has criticised how it’s been dealt with in the year following. In my opinion the only difference between Luxon and Ardern is the bald head and that he hasn’t broken any promises yet.
Martyn I have to agree albeit reluctantly and as well I have personally observed a growing trend amongst traditional National supporters to go with the New Conservatives, NZ First, or even the Greens while Luxon is leader of National. You also have to observe his Deputy Leader, Nicola Willis, who, while says she is up for the role, clearly is not.
Well RB I hate to break it to you but gang violence and murders have been around for “ages” in NZ. Death by shooting is not new either but a house being shot is not the same thing if you are talking about actual death. Theft? You get the idea.
Crime is unacceptable sure but don’t give me some 1ZB shit that Nat/ACT come in and it goes away. You would need police on every corner and at every shopping centre if police are to be the sole answer to crime prevention. We have seen historically that despite the bluster National would not fund that.
We are dropping in every statistic of a first world country.
Child poverty, education standards,economy,productivity ,health, housing and race relations
Labour have been in power for 5 years. They need to own up to their stuff ups and not blame the Nats
Yes Tribal the child poverty rate has dropped since the 2018 baseline. That’s a positive thing
But is that figure valid or did they just change the definition of child poverty? Is child poverty at an anywhere near acceptable level in New Zealand?
Martyn tends not to look at this particular “achievement” as a positive outcome, especially not for the Minister of Child Poverty Reduction.
Richard I am just pointing out that according to the Stats Department and the 2018 benchmark the rate has dropped. Is any child poverty ok? No. Tribal quoted statistics so you may as well be correct when doing so.
“Child poverty, education standards,economy,productivity ,health, housing and race relations”
Yes all these things were fantastic under the National coalition. Amazing how they changed so fast.
Yes but they won’t it’s convenient to blame National.
What really surprises me is some people actually believe them.
Some of the people all of the time.
I wonder if the MSM picked up on this? The same MSM buried under luxon’s sweaty little bottom.
The reason why we’re having this conversation, and indeed the reason why AO/NZ isn’t one of the most progressive, culturally original and avant-guarde countries in the world ( As it once nearly became.) is because of the psychology behind the character profiles of the likes of the luxon parasite.
Firstly, get a choke-hold on the money… Then, once the general populace starts to make noises from within their increasingly impoverished state built hovels, aka ‘containment facilities’, you feed them a little money to build up a false sense of compassion for one’s victim then you choke-hold them tighter while blaming them for the further suffering you bring to bear on them.
Luxon’s one of them. He’s a manipulative sociopath with a pile of dumb farmer money to stand on. ( Not all farmers are dumb I hasten to add. There are innovative and modern thinking farmers out there but they’ll never get past the wall of stupid that is the National Party’s federated farmers cult.)
I’m told there are many arsonists within fire brigades. That, was a metaphor for what luxon is, and has just done.
Firefighter arson
Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighter_arson
I can’t comment on the alleged sweatiness, by my impression is that Luxon’s bottom isn’t that little.
Pope Punctilious 11. Big bottomed girls can look stunning, big bottomed men, ugly as. Maybe he could transgenderise – join the gender-bender Greens – become a co-something.
So Luxon seems to be thinking that as to appear important on the world stage he is happy to demean and denigrate NZ, NZers and now NZ businesses.
There is something very errant with Luxon’s ‘logic’, In fact he seems to lack integrity, credibility, ethics or any sense of consideration of NZ and NZers whilst he does a speal at a function on the other side of the world.
But my thoughts about Luxon is now why didn’t he say these VERY things here in NZ? Why chose some obscure ‘meeting’ in London to demean NZ and NZers?
If this is the way he operates then I would say he doesn’t merit ANY votes at ANY election.
The guy lacks morals. But then that is what probably attracted him to the NZ National Party in the first place. That and keeping John Key involved in National in some form or another.
Well said JustMe …my thoughts exactly..
Seymour and Luxon …tweedle dee and tweedle dumb.
Those guys, like Key, are all tared with the same brush… bull shit and bravado backed by big money.
They don’t need , or have to have, any worldliness, social conscience ,advanced general knowledge and a deep understanding of Global culture.
No …. they can just lie with impunity and talk themselves up in such a naive way that people of a certain persuasion and financial status actually believe them.
It tells you a lot about the human condition and despite modern Homo sapiens now being on planet earth for well over 250,000 years, they, in some way, have learnt very little and as gullible as ever to stupidity if it is said with enough confidence.
JustMe. In context, he’s just the leader of a dubious political party in an isolated little country at the bottom of the world. That’s all. He doesn’t see his own place in the scheme of things. Could be touting for a job, who knows. I gather that he used to head Air New Zealand, but the how nor where nor why aren’t quite in the same category as the gorgeous hirsute King of Holland still actually flying aeroplanes for KGLM.
The ‘big pebble in small pond’ phenomenon should have diminished a bit with globalisation, but Luxon could be more isolated than other people, he’s a bore, but the slimy skunk certainly shouldn’t have slagged us off like that.
What kiwi could actually say that NZ is a better place to be now than it was 5 years ago? The only people who can genuinely say this is people like Luxon that own multiple houses. NZ is becoming a violent swamp.
Nurses and teachers whose salaries are/will be far greater than when National left office, that’s who.
No crisis?
Had to go on strike?
Andrew Little fighting for the front line health workers?
Fucking clueless you are Bob. I have some experience In health and read Sean Plunketts take on our health system, educate yourself instead of of pathetic soundbites.
Nationals frozen wages and low wage economy?
oh mfp widen it out can you say NZ is a better place than it was 15yrs ago…
Definitely not heading to Third World
15 years ago it WAS a third world country. Thanks National!
Like you Bomber I always agreed with and supported the government Covid strategy . However that has nothing to do with the support for National and Act that is growing daily.
I do not believe Act and the NAtz are the answer to anything. Labour aren’t either. A trade deal and a promise from the Aussies doesn’t cut it when the overall failure of this government and their worthless conceit is examined in the sunlight. Co governance is what is sinking this government . 3 Waters the gross underfunding of the Health System the gutless failure to sort Oranga Tamariki the lack of public housing and Grunter’s contempt for beneficiaries in arrogantly ignoring Treasury’s repeated advice to raise benefits more. A lack of Energy Policy and the absurd cost of living that is a direct result of that. Labour are not fit to govern. Sadly the opposition really aren’t either.
Shona this is not the result of the last 5 years , but decades of neglect. The National and ACT parties want to repeal everything, they want tax cuts and their answer to crime is build bigger prisons without rehabilitation which become breeding grounds for crime. Repealing all the Labour government has done will cost billions, who will pay for that . They deny climate change, we can all see for ourselves what is happening with our weather patterns and the demands for flood protection and drought etc.etc. who will pay for that .
Like you Bomber I always agreed with and supported the government Covid strategy . However that has nothing to do with the support for National and Act that is growing daily.
I do not believe Act and the NAtz are the answer to anything. Labour aren’t either. A trade deal and a promise from the Aussies doesn’t cut it when the overall failure of this government and their worthless conceit is examined in the sunlight. Co governance is what is sinking this government . 3 Waters the gross underfunding of the Health System the gutless failure to sort Oranga Tamariki the lack of public housing and Grunter’s contempt for beneficiaries in arrogantly ignoring Treasury’s repeated advice to raise benefits more. A lack of Energy Policy and the absurd cost of living that is a direct result of that. Labour are not fit to govern. Sadly the opposition really aren’t either.
Worthless conceit – so right Shona. Good description, expression, for (nearly) all politicians and most civil servants except for the medical sector and firefighters where the demands of the job must be met with no fudging.
he’s right kiwis have become fearful and inward looking due to 35yrs of failed nat policies and neo-lib lies…we’re dogs that have been kicked too many times by the likes of fester.
Due to 5 years
naw wrong again bob the last, neo-lib is a long slow lingering painful and ultimatly fatal cancer and both sides are the carcinogen.
Alternative?
you tell me bob the last, you’re the self proclaimed smart one here, by the way the nats are neo-libs and act are neo-libs on steroids….I await your masterplan with interest.
NZers sacrificed to fight Covid and we are living with that sacrifice right now with the extra economic cost, but let’s be very clear here, Jacinda, Labour and the health experts saved this country from almost 3000 extra deaths!
3000 extra deaths! Imagine the tsunami of grief that would have washed over us if we hadn’t implemented the measures we have now. Yes our death rates are picking up now, but that doesn’t mean the lives we saved and the measures taken to save those lives were somehow worthless!
We should mention also that there would have been a huge cost in monetary terms to NZ from the
extra illness, deaths and lockdowns with armed police in the streets which would have become common for enforcement purely from necessity because we were desperate and putting the country further into turmoil. (Happened elsewhere !) So Dr Bloomfield and his phalanx of thinking, practical medicos and elves and PM Jacinda and her advisors worked out a creditable approach that prevailed and got us over the worst before crumbling under pressure from hard business and trading reality that couldn’t be ignored plus fat cats bereft of their pussy treats at regular intervals.
Luxon is one of the National fat cats and we all know they look after themselves well and don’t expect to do ;much to earn their meals, just rub your legs, purr, and not poop in the wrong places.
A lot of politicians follow the fat cat method for sure, but National are particularly wily and adept.
The same “Dr Bloomfield and his phalanx of thinking, practical medicos and elves” that was ignored by said Prime Minister when they told her to that Auckland didn’t need to remain in lockdown?
And the same Dr Bloomfield and his phalanx of thinking, practical medicos and elves that paid no heed to the economic, financial, mental and social consequences their decisions had, afterall they were still on full pay and got fame beyond their ability.
You make it sound like the whole Covid Strategy wasn’t political???
Ah! You took my “Giant Penis head” onboard then, eh?
Excellent.
Disgusting making your comments null and void
Cancel troll.
Martyn, you say the right bloc vote has stalled yet there are bloggers here saying that it is growing daily. Can you shed some light on this?
Baldrick is not a very skilled politician to state the obvious–the exodus of National MPs, stuff ups, and scandals during the 2020 elections was something to see. He is a media creation, promoted beyond his ability and unlikely to cut through.
Boag, Woodhouse, dick picks, Judarth, Mr Muller, Mathew Hooton, any with some talent left or were booted.
Jack Marshall was last decent National party M.P…the rag tag bunch of today are an embarrassment to the New Zealand politics..