501 Tsunami about to hit & cause NZ gang war explosion – why are we taking Australian Refugees & why Luxon is wrong

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The sudden forced importation of huge swathes of hardened Australian crims into the NZ criminal scene is a unique event and they bring with them a level of violence unseen before in the NZ criminal underworld.

These new Australian connected gangs don’t use Chinese organised crime syndicates for their meth, they have Mexican cartel links who are ultra violent and produce a higher grade meth for a far cheaper price and that the explosion of organised hits and assassinations that have plagued the NZ criminal fraternity for the last 5years is being driven by these new Australian imports.

These new 501 syndicates fly under the radar, unlike the Rebels and Comancheros, they don’t display patches and move with cunning and strategic purpose to strengthen supply chains and market protection.

When alpha gangs like the HeadHunters and Hells Angels are defending their HQs with steal plating after attacks you know shit has gotten real.

Bad news is that this dynamic is about to get far, far, far, far, far worse…

New Aussie deportation laws could see more Kiwis thrown out

The Australian Senate’s due to vote on controversial new migration laws on Tuesday, that could see more New Zealanders deported under the existing 501 policy.

…that’s right folks, the 501 law that picks people Australia doesn’t like and who have had absolutely no upbringing in NZ and dumps them back here with all the social damage of using a hammer on an infant is about to get far worse!

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Most of these guys have no community in NZ and they are threatened with exile on a pacific torture prison if they don’t accept a flight back to NZ.

Look at what they do at the pacific torture prisons…

501 deportees gushing blood, tied to furniture at Aussie facility

A video showing bloodied prisoners after an altercation with guards where they were apparently beaten with steel pipes is emblematic of the “total brutality” prisoners face, according to an advocate for New Zealanders in Australia’s offshore corrections facilities.

…they threaten these guys with a pacific torture prison or a one way ticket to Auckland. Most take the one way ticket to Auckland.

One could make the argument that seeing as these sons and daughters of NZ were raised by Australia’s society, then their criminality is on Australia NOT NZ!

What the fuck is an ‘Australian Character Test any way? Downing a warm Fosters as foreplay while BBQing prawns on a burning cross? Their anthem calls for white people to advance for Christ’s sakes and they literally are what happens when prisoners overrun the prison!

How can anyone fail an Australian Character Test? Having character would fail you!

If young impressionable Kiwis leave our beautiful shores and become criminal fuckwits in Australia, that’s kinda on Australia, NOT us!

While you are incandescent with rage over the treatment of our citizens at the hands of the Australians, ask yourself why we are helping Australia with their own racist refugee policy and are taking 450 of their refugees while they treat our people so disgracefully…

New Zealand will receive 150 refugees held offshore by Australia, nine years after offer was made

New Zealand will receive up to 150 refugees a year from an Australian offshore detention facility on Nauru, more than nine years after the offer to take them was first made.

Immigration Minister Kris Faafoi and Australia Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews​ jointly announced that New Zealand would accept up to 150 refugees a year, for three years, on Thursday afternoon.

The deal was first struck by former prime ministers John Key and Julia Gillard in 2012, at a time when the Government wanted to contribute to Australia’s handling of the asylum seekers who travelled by boat to Australia’s shores.

“New Zealand is very pleased that Australia has taken up the offer,” Faafoi said, in a statement.

…FUCK the Australians!

They treat our citizens like dog shit by refusing them access to benefits which we give their citizens!

They threaten pacific torture prisons for NZ born residents who have lived most of their entire lives in Australia yet fail their ‘Character Test’ (a result which their society and their community is responsible for), and simply dump them off here in NZ where they spark a tsunami of gang violence!

They then take us up on a 9 year old offer to take 450 of their refugees while they escalate their 501 deportation policy?

This is an abusive relationship now between NZ and Australia!

Australia is treating us and our people appallingly while demanding favours!

Such a juxtaposition brings us to Luxon’s response to the 501s…

Luxon wants ‘tough on crime’ approach to 501 deportees

National leader Christopher Luxon wants a “tough on crime” approach to 501 deportees, as Australian lawmakers consider proposals to strengthen its ability to cancel visas which could see a large increase in people with tenuous links deported to New Zealand.

…Matty kept asking the question ‘shouldn’t we have more wrap around services’ to which Christian Lex Luthor thundered ‘No Matty! Tough on crime’ blah blah blah”.

Here’s the problem with Luxon’s position, he clearly doesn’t understand Matty’s point nor does he seem to appreciate the process. These 501s are literally dumped off at the airport, given $300 and told, ‘good luck’.

They haven’t committed crimes in NZ, so we don’t have any real power over them, with zero oversight, bugger all resourced as a welcome and barely any family connections in NZ, our current system almost incentivises these guys to go straight to hardened violent crime.

If there is no off ramp provided for these guys, they walk straight into the criminal world.

I agree that there is going to need to be an organised crime tactical force akin to Simon Bridge’s much mocked Raptor Force simply because the level of professionalism, sophistication and violence from the 501 syndicates demands it, but we can’t go funding a vast militarisation of the Police without an equally vast sum spent on trying to reform and help these 501s when they first re-enter NZ society before we need to use Raptor Force.

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Make no mistake, the gang war is coming, the fight over the meth trade will only heat up and the Police Intelligence Unit is going to have to lift its game…

Gang Intelligence Centre leadership concerns revealed in document release

New Zealand’s Gang Intelligence Centre has been blighted by poor leadership and has been struggling to reduce the harm caused by organised crime.

Multiple sources RNZ has talked to said the leadership of the Gang Intelligence Centre was “clueless”, and one person said it was run by a bunch of buffoons.

Leadership were said to have no understanding of the gang environment, which in turn meant the centre was failing to have an impact on the harm being caused by gangs.

…when you have gangs spraying other gang pads with semiautomatics, you have lost control of the situation.

This would not be happening if there was a competent Gang Intelligence Centre. The point is to never let shit get to this level.

This lack of leadership is terrifying on a range of fronts.

The first is of course the eruption of gang violence we are witnessing due to the 501s taking over domestic gangs.

The second is that we have handed Police a bewilderingly huge power in the form of facial recognition software they gained from a corrupt company without any sign off from politicians or the people.

So we have a Gang Intelligence Centre armed with the most powerful mass surveillance system alongside a shadow street stasi who have no fucking idea how to deal with the looming gang war!

Everyone feeling safe yet?

If we are not going to seriously tackle the reason why the gang wars are brewing then we won’t actually stop it from erupting.

The Police have the powers for this, but no fresh thinking.

 

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31 COMMENTS

  1. No need to worry. Poto will assure us that there is no increase in gang activity or violence.

  2. It’s fine. So our Minister of Police says!

    We have “Operation Tauwhiro” as Poto loves to quote. It is so embarrassingly obvious she has no idea. She thinks it’s a crack down on gangs. An advisor must have told her that because Poto would never think of taking an interest in it at all for the right reasons. But it’s not. It’s a strategy, a policy study to look into the drivers of such crime and then respond. To quote the police publicity…

    “Each Police District will run their own tailored initiative and will work closely with iwi and our partner agencies to identify underlying risk factors and implement appropriate interventions. This may include working with iwi, community NGOs, probation and parole officers, and other community groups to offer services and support that can help address the underlying causes of violence and build greater community resilience,” “says Commissioner Coster.”

    All very laudable, that is in the very very long term and in a deeply academic way but only with more traditional current enforcement methods like Poto thinks is happening but isn’t.

    This shit will only get worse, especially with turkey’s like our current Minister of Police involved!

  3. Cuddles Coster will deal with all of these 501s.
    Why not just send the plane back and leave it in Au airspace until they;
    A. run out of gas?
    B. The Aussies shoot it down
    C. The Aussies allow it to land
    D. The plane gets lost in the Bermuda triangle?

    • Yes turn the conair planes back. Create a legal nicety by passing a law that revokes NZ citizenship for any kiwi convicted of an imprisonable offence in Australia. Then declare all major gangs in Australia as terrorist organisations and simply dont accept repatriation of these terrorists because we dont want terrorists from Australias crime wars terrorising New Zealand streets. Then apply “sanctions” on Duutton. And if that doesnt work for every 501 they send nationalise an Aussie bank. Jacinda playing hardball with any of these policies would be shot in the arm for Labours chances at the next election.

      • Some excellent ideas here. Along with reciprication of all of Australia’s laws, we need to escalate if they continue down this road.

  4. surely you jest Bomber, our esteemed Police minister said we don’t have a gang problem, be kind and so forth

    • Fred
      She should know. Poto was a cop for 29 or 30 years so she knows exactly what’s going on. That’s why she’s the most qualified police minister we could have. (Now you all gonna google how many years she was a cop.)

    • The best thing we can do to stuff their banks is to buy shares in them, then some of the ownership and profits will start coming back our way. The NZ Super Fund and ACC could take huge stakes in them. Locally, Kiwibank could really ramp up it’s scale to become the prime lender and preferred bank of the masses NZ Problem is Kiwibank is undercapitalised as well as closing branches – if the public don’t look to Kiwibank as their prime bank, then Kiwibank isn’t going to groww – our own fault. Even the Govt don’t bank with the bank they established – it hasn’t got a AAA credit rating………..

  5. As with so many other matters this government seems to refuse to admit we have a gang problem. Due to the housing crisis (another problem not faced up to) these people are forced into shared accomadation with friends who are usually on the finger of society. They made need mental support (another problem) or follow up from police (who are under pressure). It is a difficult situation and the answer is a work in progress .

  6. The Gangs in NZ have been out of control for the past 40-50 years do we have the skills in the NZ Police and Security Services to deal with these 501’s. They operate at a different level and do not adhere to any rules or regulations as far as I am aware.

  7. easy…don’t let them off the planes send them right back to OZ and let the okkers sort out airport lounges full of ‘stateless’ people.

    • just tell the airlines any planes carrying 501s will be denied landing permission let the airlines pressure the oz govt because their paying passengers won’t buy a sydney to sydney ticket…we have forknowledge of embarkation passenger manifests so 501s easy to spot and divert.

  8. If the Natz win they will arm the Police ,privatise prisons and continue with their agenda to turn NZ into a mini America like…Aussie.

    • Blazer – I don’t know where you get the idea that Australia is a mini America. Oz has a superb public health system, and a strong public education system. The working class in Australia lives well because they get paid decent wages. 6% of US citizens live in trailer parks – you won’t find that in Oz. And no I’m not Australian.

      • I see my reply to pope hasn’t appeared yet….slow moderator or is it because I mentioned a couple of youtube streams….doesn’t really matter I don’t mind mods but slow mods disturb the flow of debate

  9. Every govt, Labour or National always seem to roll over and let the Australians do whatever they like to us.
    Time we shut down all the benefits Australians get here

  10. So the cause of this is 501 deportees is a backlash against years of NZ’s “education” industry which allowed legions of newly minted kiwis to cross the ditch, face it we used our back door to Australia as an inducement to come to NZ, and Australia has not moved that far on from their keep Australia white policy

    • That is most likely one ingredient in the casserole of crap we are being forced to eat at the moment.

  11. “How can anyone fail an Australian Character Test? Having character would fail you!… Their anthem calls for white people to advance for Christ’s sakes and they literally are what happens when prisoners overrun the prison!”

    If Australia is PURE EVIL WHITE SUPREMACIST land why are so many non whites trying to get in? Reality is all those PURE EVIL WHITE SUPREMACISTS have built a country desirable to live in.

    “One could make the argument that seeing as these sons and daughters of NZ were raised by Australia’s society,”

    No they are raised by their parents and family.

    Australia owes NZ absolutely nothing. It would be a good idea for Australia to temporarily suspend the special visa status Kiwis have enjoyed as it seems like too many Kiwis are ingrates with a sense of entitlement.

    • as we all know from our daily NZ experiences image and reality are miles apart…people buy into the image of australia which is as carefully constructed as a fake social media profile.

  12. I agree Bomber, the Aussie Govt should be told to sling their hook! I really dont understand why we dont stand against them. We just keep getting treated like Australia’s B*tch and nobody does anything. I imagine there must be an economic reason as both Key and Ardern deferred to them regardless but I think it’s time we stood up for ourselves.

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