Marsden Point Pipes Being Filled With Concrete – Blatant Economic Treason – New Zealand First Party

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“The revelation that the government is allowing the Marsden Point Oil Refinery pipes to be filled with concrete shows an astonishing level of economic ignorance,” says Rt Hon Winston Peters Leader of New Zealand First.

“At a time when we have massive shortages of supply, a looming economic crisis, and prices of oil and other essential materials going through the roof, Labour is allowing this kind of short-sighted jingoistic behaviour to occur by a foreign company on kiwi soil.”

“The simple fact is New Zealand needs to be open to looking at all options moving into the future that could give us economic flexibility and certainty to achieve a degree of self-sufficiency.”

“This removal of any future use of these pipes at Marsden Point is not a part of the decommissioning process – it is a private company being allowed to commit blatant economic treason,” says Mr Peters.

“The Energy and Resources Minister Megan Woods needs to explain how this can be occurring under her nose at such an important and economically fragile time in our country.”

23 COMMENTS

  1. Ask winston peters what he was talking to don brash about in that telling photograph of their little tate a tate outside that cafe that time? Anything to do with the wine box inquiry?
    In short. Fuck winston peters.
    Re Marsden Point? Fuck Marsden Point also.
    Lets export the spare food that can feed 42 million and buy our petrol already refined? Or LPG?
    Big secret. We have billions of kg’s of LPG just sitting in the ground. Aye boys?

  2. I always worry when I agree with Winston Peters but I certainly think he is right on the button with this comment about Marsden Point . In an era of self looking after yourself and not dependant on other countries it is very foolish to allow this plant to shut and be destroyed

    • Foolish indeed. How does a woman with a PhD in History become minister of energy as she is indeed turning back the clock.

      • Well you know everything is generic these days – There are only one or three ways of looking at methods of management, learn them , and you just analyse which one to use and Bob’s your uncle and Fanny’s your aunt as the saying goes. (There’s only three choices of gender, mostly, so just choose a generic gender Bob or Fanny etc, and the rest is straightforward.) That deals with Megan Woods and how she could know about everything. Any other questions?

        If you didn’t understand the above, then that is an explanation on its own as to why we can never get any reasoned policies and practices out of the pollies; their heads are elsewhere.

  3. Marsden Point Refinery is a lose lose anyway you look at it. Refining NZ set up by the Rogernomics Labour Govt. basically handed over a publicly developed “Think Big” resource to the big oil companies who then proceeded to rape and pillage consumers and citizens generally, ever since–via transfer pricing and obvious conflicts of interest in the supply chain and retail price gouging.

    Locals know there is crap in drums buried in the sand in the area. Crap such as that resulting from the switch from leaded to unleaded petrol and other by products and gunge. Will this ever be dealt with, just like Rio Tinto at Tiwai?

    Fossil fuel days are numbered. Marsden relied on ships for product to refine and will rely on ships for refined product to store, and presumably pipe to Auckland via its one major asset–the pipeline. During the refinery wind down process green energy and hydrogen fuel type avenues were raised but Refining NZ did not want to know, leading to the then CEO Mike Fuge quitting who was in favour of new energy.

    NZ needs to massively subsidise EVs and cycles and use our national power grid and increased solar to assist.

    • Not only a very good analysis but also offering up up a good alternative solution with your last paragraph Tiger, which is very rare on this site( you know the ones).

    • True TM about getting new fuels into use. But the business minded can’t wait to do the profit thing (they don’t want to end up with egg on their face as did Solid Energy which seemed to me to be trying to make viable moves into post fossiels but got no thanks for it).

      And transfer pricing you might put a few words on how we could get rorted by that. It’s one of the diddles that can be played on the simple-minded peasantry which is what we are in NZ comparatively to the big boys,.

      We are just being weakened by not being cunning and working out how to make this IMF and OECD etc work to suit our needs rather than follow best international economic practice. I guess we have to fill the pipe if we aren’t going to use it or we could have an explosion when the gases get the right percentages – like Pike River. That would hoist someone’s petard .

      Hydrogen may be greener, but there is that thing about it being hard to contain – leaking through the usual materials. Will the remedy be worse than the disease? If the CEO left there will always be someone to crank up the barrel organ with the latest tune to ‘pop goes the weasel.’

  4. Yes EVERYONE knows fossil fuel days are numbered. Not the point Tiger Mountain. Green Hydrogen is an energy inefficient cul-de-sac and will do nothing for our transport woes in NZ. Electrification with a privatised electricity market? not going to work either and it is our electricity rip off that made the refinery un -economic. We have always been able to subsidise Tiwai Point though.Funny that? Imports are going to push up prices further Australia doesn’t make enough fuel for its own market or the right fuel for ours. 40% of the imported fuel to NZ has been sent back or sent to Marsden Point for re-refining in the last 2 years. Because it’s shit ( incorrectly blended)and will destroy our vehicles engines. War with Ukraine has made fuel traveling long distances a perilous commodity and China having a military Port in the Solomons just ratcheted that up a notch. What could possibly go wrong? Marsden Point IS polluted and the owners of Channel Infrastructure do not give a fuck. We will get to pay. Diesel will be $3 a litre before Xmas.Not having any plan for an alternative bio fuel plant or any plan to retain skilled staff is what dumb fucks do.We are dumb fucks and this going to cost NZ and Northland dearly. It is a huge leap backwards and not what NZ needs . Marsden Point was the ONLY refinery in the Southern Pacific that could refine fuel to US Military standards. The only hydrocracker etc etc etc.. And it has been deliberately trashed. Yeah oh well who cares? Not stupid fucking Kiwis obviously.
    Oh and finally we are going to run out of Jet fuel when the borders open. Pass the popcorn.

    • Shona I can’t credit your comment enough; Marsden Point Oil Refinery was built a state of the art precision works. Not only will those who have lived and worked there be turning in their graves or their bathtubs but so also will we, the great unwashed, be crying at the petrol pumps when we realise we will never drive through Paris* in a sportscar with the warm wind in our hair.
      Some MPs have done particularly well from the classic car market and the EV blunder is a scam- ask anyone whose lithium-ion battery toasted them. One’s only joy is picturing our present minister of energy riding a bicycle to school.
      *or Ekatahuna etc..

  5. But … M Woods is proud of the fact that they’ve built 12 Social Houses!

    Ronald McDonalds mum really hasn’t a clue, but that’s what NZ taxpayers are paying for. Seat warmers in this caretaker government.

  6. nothing against closing the refinery WHEN WE HAVE REPLACEMENTS READY….but before then is rank stupidity that amounts to sabotage….or does the minister have shares in oil and will she profit from price hikes…seriously I can think of no other logic for the closure at this point…a deliberate plan to cause scarcity isn’t the way to promote EVs..it really isn’t, so it must be other interests.

  7. Megan Woods continue to hide behind an outdated MBIE risk assessment; and Social Credit’s Petition with 18,000+ signatures sits in the Petition Committee’s in-tray. It is urgent that the committee questions the continued validity of the MBIE advice.

  8. Putting the refinery into rest-mode at this time, was already an odd thing to do.
    But to actively sabotage in advance, any future re-opening, is …incomprehensible.
    It has echoes of the Climate Change group cancelling themselves. Someone puts up “an idea”, and so they run with it, without any thought or comprehension of the costs and consequences. – Including increased costs on the climate as we struggle to import more refined oil.

    I hate to say this, as it’s Labour what dunnit, but how bloody stupid!!!!

    • And a message I have from National’s energy spokesperson states they see no problem with it’s closure – the market always knows best thinking I guess. That didn’t work for our railway or airline.

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