Luxon is being touted as leader because of his connection to Key.
The pitch to National blue bloods is that the rot inside National is deeper than the Leader. Goodfellow’s time as President has been a disaster.
With Luxon as leader, Key would be appointed Party President so that they could oversee an Alpha candidate academy to shoulder tap the next generation National MP for the 2023 election.
It is the development of a new wave of right wing Ubermensch that is the vision of Team Key-Luxon.
For these Blue Bloods, Simon Bridges is too working class for their aesthetic tastes.
The Key-Luxon ticket would work like the Putin-(fill in name here) relationship.
It would be an incredibly dangerous combination for democracy between puppet and master.
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Yes, but he has other National party leadership qualities too.
I warming to uncle Fester being leader of the National party. Sure, like most +30 beer (not craft) drinking, meat eating, heterosexual males I won’t be voting for them again HOWEVER if a woke corporate virtue signaler can bridge the 5-7% gaps by bringing 20% with act as a buffer against labourLite going too weird and liberal.
Good times.
So a loony bible basher is ok Frank?
Don’t really care anymore Spurry – not my party anymore. Like most over 35, white, middle class heterosexual males I’ll be voting ACT next time.
Uncle Fester speaks Te Reo, likes the environment and otherwise has a lot of corporate woke virtues. Therefore if Willis, The Tobacco salesman and he can convince under 30 white collar workers to decamp from Labour; the centre right forms a coalition in 2 years time.
It is a curious fact that Rob Muldoons National was , in fact, to the left of the modern day Greens, … and had more in common with MANA than any other party on the political scene. This tells us of just how bogus is the modern NZ political scene and commentators when they speak of ‘left ‘ or ‘right’.
The overarching difference being that of difference between Keynesianism and neo liberalism / Lazze faire. Now, there were many multi millionaires in NZ during the Keynesian economy. So one cannot say it was not for free enterprise. Nor can one say that it did not have the wealthiest per capita results when one see’s the results of 1969,- the 6th wealthiest only behind Denmark.
Yet now we see the results of neo liberalism post 1984. Massive poverty, food banks not coping, homelessness, people locked out of home ownership, poverty wages, increasing domestic violence, degraded infrastructure. Why support it?
Because in supporting ACT, you support all of the above.
Poor choice.
Yes WK, pipsqueak seymour might be entertaining but his policies are truly awful. We are not fooled by his rhetoric.
Yet inequality has ballooned under Labour.
Everyone on the left seems to glibly forget the left’s record when it comes to unaffordability.
You should be substituting neo liberalism with globalism which is the real gremlin. And looky who supports globalism the most in NZ……Jacinda Ardern.
You forgot ‘psychopaths’ in you most list..
Yes his first act will be to add speaking in tongues as our 4th official language!
“For these Blue Bloods, Simon Bridges is too working class for their aesthetic tastes.”
Nailed it Martyn.
Key is no blue blood – he can’t even speak properly, or pronounce New Zealand without sounding like a toothless old gin granny. He’s vulgar nouveau riche, that’s all; the Fairfax girls worshipping him looked deranged.
Got it, it’s because Soyman is a brown person.
No it’s actually because Simon is shit. Nice guy Harry put unsuited to leadership as are most boy wonders. He had his chance, bottled it and a re-run will be a backwards step.
John Howard he is not.
Oh go on with ya cobber, fair go mate, he’s a goer, give the bloke another chance. Want a beer?
‘a toothless old gin granny’
🙂
When Key spoke to the media he exaggerated his accent.
Yeah he said Ackshuully instead of Eckshully.
A Oxford educated, pin stripped tall clean cut former prosecutor, and still looks rather too like it. And apparently some sort of hetrosexual. Truly extraordinary within the National ranks. I mean look at the other contenders Mr Willis, the Salvationist, appears to be ideal as a twa lady for a fundamentalist church. Shane Reti..What country have you landed in, Dr Reti? Aotearoa. Dear me, Me Reti. This is not Paraguay. .. Like Mr Godfrey and Mr Karan, I have always recommended a on way return ticket to Beruit or Strossers old capital on the Paraguayan river. And then we have Mr Mark Mitchell some relation to that rather disappointing MP for North Shore, Frank Gill. Gill was doubtlessly a great fighter pilot or RNZAF logistics officer and base commander, but while I rapidly came to support the strike force and always have supported the P-3, P-8 force as our essentially surveillance, anti destroyer anda/s force, the A-4 was a bit of a truck and target, justified for training and as part of a high tech economy, but even the Hunter, Hawk or Sepcat Jag were harder naval targets. Gill was a bit of a reactionary and I really see Mark Mitchell as a diplomat, cabinet minister or CDS driver and my test for such jobs is based on the basic officer req. Is this person a troublesome Bible banger. Christine Keeler gets 103 on my IQ score for f..king around, Megan Fox 93 for being a one partner for life Bible banger.
In terms of Luxton.No.No. I presume Mathew Hooton wrote the over the type Luxton speech suggesting that the Glossy Tourist industry sabotaged on day one of the 2019 COVID outbreak ( Luxton asked why and who they the ‘ Puritan medicalist Wellington policy elite the Rashbrooke, Ritchie, Boston- close the bars Selman acolytes’ did it. Well of course we know they are the friends of Mathew and Luxton the associates of the Outer Mongolian consul themselves. So the ridiculous speech, true in part and my view is we need the tourist industry , bars, supermarkets open 24/7. But you know it’s going to be difficult and take time. First because it requires the removal of most of our current political class, etc. The Luxton speech by Luxton Feather Duster. I imply nothing.I assume Ted Heath and Luxton were A sexual The Luxton speech exposed Luxton as a lightweight and Manchurian campaigbn.. At that point the lock on the half clued National candidates, possibly including Ms Starsgate ( The North Shore MP who really needs to study the Nancy Sinatra presentation of’ ‘these boots are made for walking’ the speech and all those hand movements are out of place on TV, even parliamentary TV. People actually watch it So slower delivery, less hand magnetism and after two years practice, Nancy Sinatra, so improved her vocal delivery and march she made every r & r audience in Vietnam, loose all impulse control and rush the stage. Apocalypse Now showed the effect Ms Stargate could achieve, if she turned to a more appropriate career.As far as I know, Ms Van Velden has not transferred from Act ( the far left extreme party well the the left of the Greens-) to the more conservative Nationals. Even I expelled from National to acclamation, first before Trade Minister Luxton, secondly before Shipley, I had only half a dozen supporters Later I was banned from Labours Standard by the famous editor for favouring Dutton, Trump style defence of NZ borders and the UK channel and rail tunnel entrance. The Standard editor suggested I be transferred to Auckland Islands with the entire SAS
employed to he guard me. And from the other Labour official blog by the current Deputy PM, Grant Robertson.
Why would we want Key involved he chose to leave didn’t he say he wanted to spend more time with Bronagh and moonbeam their cat. And Key left a mess for someone else to clean up. If Luxon is just more of the same John Key type we have already been there and done that. What about someone new, fresh and not tarnished is there anyone in the National party that can fit that brief?
Outside of Reti, the saddest part is that National still have those morally corrupt experienced MPs influencing their young up and comers, Nicola Willis being the example, a whinging, entitled politician learning all the Collins traits along the way.
Sorry Bert but Reti us tarnished by his loyality to Collins (just like Mike Pence). If you dance with the devil you will get burnt.
Gerry Brownlee!,… is he still there?
Wild Katipo “ Is Gerry Brownlee still there ?” Where exactly ? I mean he could have gone thru’ the wrong door again – he could be anywhere – but not to worry, he’ll turn up again in due course. Somewhere.
just a small query Martyn: Is that because Simon actually DID WORK for a living?? ( even tho he was a contemptible Crown Prosecutor )
Hey c’mon ! Collapsing a nations economy via foreign exchange heists is hard work ! All that typing and all! And John Key was hard at work in New York doing just that to enrich him and his mate with the NZ economy! And it must have been hard work sacking all those people and maintaining that cheesy smile for hours on end as he did so. And then of course running round after all those hard to contact trusts when all he wanted to do was throw a party and provide a haven for their hard earned dollars….
Getting Australias highest honour ..The Order Of Australia….requires …’talent’!
Correct Kapiti! But the useless/partisan media of this country will never report it.
And the dumb-arse right-wingers will, got some reason, never act in the information. Come on Frank and Kraut, tell us why not? You have the evidence now give us the result of your ‘intelligence’ acting upon it…
Shona. But Simon’s own wife described him as a dirty little street fighter, and that was discussing his good points. We need clean.
Actually I am trying to support the Simon/Simon JFK/RFK option as on on balance, as seen as just good enough to lead a NZ National Government. None of the other options are remotely acceptable, good enough or even tolerable in terms of Mrs Collins as even opposition leader.
As you know I am not Martyn Dunne or Martin Finnalyson. I apologise to Ms Willis for the typos, I was not suggesting she was a man, but I do have a powerful contempt for the fundamentalist church, for everything and the presence of Ms Willis and Mr Bishop in a right centre National Party. This morning’s Newshub commentator, Ms De Bono argued Ms Arden was a urban liberal leading a urban liberal country, and National should have a similar leader in Ms Willis or even worse Bishop. De Bono is wrong about all that as only a Wellington sub editor could be. Arden is not a social liberal. I am not. National has never been a social liberal party. In some ways McLay, Muldoon and Shipley were in different parts. But not in NZ today. No.
In my mid 60s my min position to return to PM is UK, PM or US Defence sec, in name or effect. I rate myself
Remember not so long ago …..
“The parties still sit close, however – National Party on 44%, rising 4% since 1 NEWS’ last poll in April. Labour dropping by a significant 6%, down to 42%.”
National Party: 44% – (Up 4%)
Labour Party : 42% (Down 6%)
Green Party: 6% – (Steady)
New Zealand First: 5% – (Up 1%-point)
ACT: 1% – (Steady)
Something like this could happen again two years out from an election is a long time in politics.
Luxton just looks like ‘Todd Muller-lite’ to me. And his TraitorKey connection is a double edged sword.
In fairness Uncle Fester had the ability to climb the corporate ladder on his own ability whereas Todd had to rely on Daddy and good words from Boldger
Boldger? You mean Bolger? – What about Ruth ‘Mother of all budgets/ Employment Contracts Act 1991’ baby, huh? Seems your being a little selective there matey ! Didn’t she have something to say as well?
so what did he really achieve at Air NZ after taking over from…Fyfe.?
Got ‘CEO Air NZ, 7 years’ on his CV.
Not keen on corporate bal’heads myself. What do those guys with the shaved heads and tightly tailored suits do when they all get in a room-rub bonces in weird rituals of some sort…?
As opposed to an announced student leader who is good at reading scripts? It’s all the same shit. No substance no real decision making. We the citizens are the poorer for all this identity politics crap.
Key is and was a dirty stain on our politics and as Churchill once said democracy is fine until the ordinary man votes.
The National party is corrupt , tarnished and a disgrace and Key and his colleagues got away with running this country for the benefit of its own donors and business supporters for nine years by being supported by its many friends in the media like TVNZ’s Jessica McKay who like many other’s in the media often showed their true political sympathies in their pro National party coverage on TVNZ and the other predictable right wing rags and their mouthpieces …Hosking , Garner , Smith , Soper , Much , Trevant , The Herald , Listener, and all other NZ mainstream tory propaganda. Then accepted a knighthood like Carter who was not a unbiased speaker in the NZ parliament and allowed that shyster Key and his colleagues to get away with many serious breaches in what is no longer ” the peoples house ” in his time as speaker and got his peerage based on dubious behaviour to assist the Key led government in its corrupt dealings and actions.
Luxon when he eventually takes the leadership will be no different despite the well run marketing campaign to sell his virtues to all the ute , SUV , van driving dumb arses that vote every three years and believe everything they are told with no argument or any original thought.
Remind me why Key received a knighthood again, does anyone actually know?
Bert. Why did Key receive a knighthood? Services rendered to damsels with long tresses ?
A major problem I see with Luxon is that he does not want the job, yet. To be a good leader you must want the job – this is different from being in love with the power being a leader bestows. At the moment it would appear Luxon is being pushed forward and used by Key so Key can regain power through puppetry.
Of course luxon wants the job! He’s just lying. Trying to be coy. And if he’s lying ALREADY what’s he going to be like later..?
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