Covid-19: US intelligence report says coronavirus may have emerged from lab leak or animals
One element in the intelligence community said they believe the first human infection was probably the result of a laboratory-associated incident. This likely involved experimentation, animal handling or sampling by the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
“These analysts give weight to the inherently risky nature of work on coronaviruses,” the report states.
This assessment is classed as “moderate confidence”, meaning the analysts believe the underlying information is plausible and comes from credible sources.
Well, well, well. So the lab leak is plausible?
The deep suspicion of China is legitimate.
We know there were embassy cables warning Trump that the Wuhan Lab was a safety risk.
We know US Intelligence picks up a pandemic in November.
We know the lab was experimenting on the virus and that scientists have now cast suspicion on the virus having been tampered with.
Because of the prevalence of these types of labs and with human error factored in, there is an 80 percent chance of a a dangerous pathogen escape every 12.8 years.
We know lab staff suffered symptoms exactly like Covid a month before the first case in December.
With the new old coot bottling it in Afghanistan over the past couple of weeks as well it’s likely that the house and the senate fall in the midterms. Not sure if Trump will run, if not Desantis.
Either way its looking grim for the Dems and their media poodles
Well, when you’ve got around $10,000,000 been given as funding by certain of the Americans,…to a Chinese bio lab? And that lab was ‘interested in’ working with corona viruses, and that prior to that its host was an animal yet somehow jumped to humans, does kind of cast a shadow…viruses do jump species regularly, but this seems a little contrived.
Scientific research works across borders all the time.
Get over it.
Innuendo isn’t fact.
Timeline Patent Virus Fearmongering Vaccine
South China sea stoush is just an excuse to party, right?
“South China sea stoush is just an excuse to party, right?”
Ah ha, the scatter-gun of arguments strategy, second cousin to whataboutism and Gish galloping.
huh?
My shotguns all sealed up and don’t work no more,…whataboutism? what planet are you on, son? And what the hell is Gish galloping? Some sort of new dance?
There is not enough evidence that Covid escaped from a Chinese Lab.
But there is suggestion, worthy of investigation, of China telling WHO everything is fine, while buying up huge quantities of PPE!
WHO, China leaders discuss next steps in battle against coronavirus outbreak
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/28-01-2020-who-china-leaders-discuss-next-steps-in-battle-against-coronavirus-outbreak
China stockpiled more than 2 billion surgical masks and essential medical supplies, many of them from Australia, in a global panic buy.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/revealed-china-stockpiled-2-billion-face-masks-and-25m-medical-items/news-story/5304e5a5080bd4087e4a9be9de210b97
Second company sent ‘90 tonnes’ of Australian medical supplies to China
Exclusive video shows surgical masks at Perth airport being airfreighted to China last month during the peak of the country’s outbreak.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/second-company-sent-90-tonnes-of-australian-medical-supplies-to-china/news-story/be74b7679d7c8cb910d0f34713b2f008
The PPE seemed to fail once Covid hit.
Hospital leaders hit out at government as PPE shortage row escalates
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/19/hospital-leaders-hit-out-government-ppe-shortage-row-escalates-nhs
‘Beggars belief’ that PPE would fail – Waitemata DHB nurse
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/415623/beggars-belief-that-ppe-would-fail-waitemata-dhb-nurse
Boris Johnson to reduce Huawei’s role in Britain’s 5G network in the wake of coronavirus outbreak
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/22/boris-johnson-reduce-huaweis-role-britains-5g-network-wake-coronavirus/
China enjoys creating its own version of events – let’s not give it material
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/23/china-enjoys-creating-version-events-not-give-material/
Ne evidence of animal transmission ANYWHERE
No evidence that covid19 was first detected in China but it was detected in samples from elsewhere dated before the Wuhan discovery..
Keep your mind open and try not to get locked into US/Aust/UK conspiracies of a political smear against China.
The buy back of PPE from Australia is well investigated with commercial incentives not political or covid19 based strategy – for example.
The USA needs to open up its medical records to WHO for a start. The US has more exploratory virus labs globally than any other country by far and the CIA had full knowledge of all that took place in Wuhan where US money and personnel were employed.
Some links:
May 2021, Fauci admits Wuhan lab received funds from US
August 2021, Was US money used to fund the research
“Did the US fund virus research in China?
Yes, it did contribute some funds.”
June 2021, Wuhans only foreign scientist speaks out
“It’s not that it’s impossible the virus spilled from there. Anderson, better than most people, understands how a pathogen can escape from a laboratory.” (But she doesn’t think that’s what happened, or at least doesn’t want to think that.)
Unless you can identify patient Zero ,,,,, then you can not identify the origin.
Nobody has a fucking clue who patient zero was …
The ‘ Origin’ is a distraction from the ongoing response ,,,, particularly the debacle of trying to mix a little business into pandemic medicine….
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And the sickness of our health sector starved of capacity by the bushiness model of just enough just in time, in ‘normal ‘ times ,,,, meaning a hiccup in demand can make the whole thing all over.
That’s the true Covid conspiracy they are covering up ,,,, Martyn pointed out the madness of still not beefing up ICU staff and beds numbers when the Covid wolfe is trying to get over our door step and blow the house of cards down .
Its a disgrace and National were working towards the same goals of privitisations and PPP’s,,, as Blairites and Torys in England ,,,
John Pilger- The Dirty War on the NHS: Privatisation, Profits and the Impact on Patients https://youtu.be/rHZcXrc9_wk?t=19
TRUMP was Right
Innocent parties don’t hide evidence.
China will help Trump regain credibility by refusing to allow any independent inquiry into the lab leak theory and continuing to threaten Taiwan.
The fact is the USA has this weird presidential election setup that means the majority of voters are ignored, masses of potential voters do not go to the effort, and any nut job with enough money or influence can be elected.
Be afraid.
No result. No deliberate leak. Not biological warfare. All theories still on the table. Meanwhile under the table China is the only major power that has handled the pandemic with the elimination strategy, and facing a global economic meltdown, finds its economy still humming.
What other country in the world can claim to have success by aiming for zero Covid and still keep the economy afloat? That’s right.
China and NZ have used centralised state power to do both. Libertarians and right-wingers scream state socialism, offering instead open borders and free market culling-the-herd eugenics.
We need to face down the Borises and their ‘acceptable’ cull rate cronies in the supine media, and focus on the working class majority taking power and control over the state so that we have a chance at getting rid of capitalism and its rip, shit, bust abuse of nature that created the conditions for the pandemic in the first place.
As an apologist for a racist, ethnocidal dictatorship with lebensraum policies, if you want to see a right-winger, just look in the mirror Dave.
*cough* Taiwan *cough*…. not a country, Dave Xi? 😉
One of the most damaging pieces of evidence is how China treated Dr. Li Wenliang as they suppressed medical ability to control the virus in the early stages when it could have been contained easier.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/chinese-whistleblower-doctor-dies-from-coronavirus/QGJX6HPPMKFDQ5PGG7QCEYK3W4/
And they apologised.
He was an Ophthalmologist. Not surprising he wasn’t taken seriously
Too late for millions of people dead and trillions taken from the economy of other countries!
“So Covid could have escaped from the Wuhan Lab after all?”
Oh man. You so much want that to be the case it is actually funny.
Actually Richard you will note that I was very vocal at the start of this by pointing out the mathematical possibility of accidental lab leak using sources anyone would categorize as left.
My wider issues are climate change and if the jump is zoonotic it proves my point this is part of a climate crisis reality.
I’m guessing your insinuation is racism against the Chinese despite my long standing attack and virulent criticism of the American Military Complex and activism against US mass surveillance?
“virulent criticism of the American Military Complex and activism against US mass surveillance?”
And yet you give 100% credence to a report produced for and in the service of that same military complex….LOL!
What’s that got to do with the price of scuttlebutt? The military ( industrial ) complex aint got nothing to do with internal reports given to the Federal govt….in fact they have always run at odds with each other. Everyone knows that.
This long and very detailed analysis from Nicholas Wade does not provide conclusive proof that Covid 19 originally escaped from a lab in Wuhan. However it does ask some very pertinent questions.
It demonstrates beyond all doubt that the Chinese government has a lot of questions to answer about its culpability in the causes of this global disaster:
https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
Nicholas Wade is a crypto white supremacist with a penchant for racialist science.
Even if that were true (and I doubt it), your ad hominem attack does nothing to refute the very detailed and specific questions he asks about the origins of the pandemic.
Try harder, Mark.
I ask why was this research so necessary? Sure research is shared across borders. Especially in this case American interests including Fauci were apparently in boots and all with China. Not one person has explained what the object of the long-standing (since 2012) research was. This is what needs to be explained. China could probably point the finger as well. As usual it’s so convoluted the truth will never be known so you can believe what you want.
Well, certainly it could have because it has not been proved not to have. As pointed out, the likelihood of lab incidents are not zero. So, if it did escape from a lab in China, what would that mean? Also for science and labs all be over the world. Probably no scientist or government wants covid to be an escapee from a lab.
When all said and done, who gives a fuck how it happened… It did, and now we are stuck with dealing with it. I’m fully prepared to accept that there was American money involved in financing the “research” that was going on in Wuhan.. After al, the yanks haven’t managed to hide the fact that they have been extensively involved in germ warfare “research” for decades already… What we should be angry about is that the Americans, while trump was president, refused to be honest about what they knew long before it became too late to stop it spreading around the world… We are all now at risk because of nothing more than party political stupidity, as practiced by reactionary governments around the world…. Arguing the toss about “who did what, and when” is just a pointless distraction…
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