‘the incitement of disharmony against religion, based on an intent to stir up, maintain or normalise hatred, through threatening, abusive or insulting communications’.
If NZ passes religious hate speech laws, I’m afraid we all have no choice but to immediately break that law for the sake of our Democracy!
Remember, this new religious hate speech law will specifically target ‘hate’ towards religious beliefs???
But many religious beliefs are ridiculous. Under this law, ‘The Life of Brian’ would be considered hate speech…
From the archive, 30 August 1979: Nothing funny about Life of Brian’s Jesus joke
The Catholic archdiocese has called Life of Brian a “blasphemy”, adding that it was a “crime against religion which holds the person of Christ up to comic ridicule.”
The Jewish groups are equally damning. They regard the film as “grieviously insultlng,” and have described it as “a vicious attack on Judaism and the Bible, and a cruel mockery of Christian religious feelings as well.”
…I philosophically hate religion for many, many, many fucking good reasons, but because NZ is a liberal progressive democracy, I tolerate religion.
I tolerate Scientology, I tolerate the Exclusive Brethren & I tolerate those who believe in a magical invisible flying wizard for all their personal choices!
I also tolerate that they don’t pay tax – BUT I SURE AS FUCK refuse point blank to fear them!
This is a liberal progressive SECULAR Democracy, if you want to believe in crazy myths and crazy invisible magical flying beings, that is your total right to, but equally, it’s my right to mock those beliefs when they collide with my individual rights.
Blasphemy laws and gender identity hate speech isn’t a solution to a cascade intelligence failure by the entire NZ Intelligence agencies that led to a white supremacists terror attack.
We lose free speech to criticise religion? How the hell is that anything other than a victory for the terrorist?
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Am going to start my own one-woman religion and every action I take is in the name of my religion. So I’m above reproach under new law
@ Rose, Make sure you file a police report every second. Soon police will not have the resources to solve any crimes, what with investigating everyones hate speech allegations and ticketing drivers for revenue gathering.
In my religion your greedy ways does not befit immortality. When ever there is a creation or destruction there must be a sacrifice.
The Police don’t currently have the time or resources to investigate most minor crimes (car thefts, burglary, minor violence, minor drug offenses, minor sexual assaults etc.) or carry out other duties like firearms licencing, so it seems very unlikely that they will spend any time or resources on this either (unless they particularly want to for “special” cases).
Politicians only pass laws to make it appear like they are doing something. The new laws are rarely enforced any more than the old “failing” laws were, so nothing really changes or thing just get worst (see the “success” with the post terrorist attack gun laws).
@Richard, police are going to have their own division of hate crimes, so they will have to get some arrests and prosecutions… offended millennials are triggered when their entire life is some one else fault even the most privileged are plagued with racism it seems https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2021/03/12/media-watch-here-comes-the-woke-cancelation-of-the-queen/, Police hate crimes are going to inundated with claims. Start building more prisons and putting billions more into justice and more courts!
Will we fill the fails with verbal fornicators, so we can’t risk double bunkum.
Blazing saddles – also hate speech today.
Satire plays an important role in life, now under threat as much as, freedom of speech and democracy.
They are taking away tolerance not adding to it, because the majority of people are tolerant to other people’s views, but if you disagree it should not be a crime!
Seeing as all we non-believers are doomed to eternal damnation amid the fires of hell I cannot see why we are allowed a little piss taking now.
I seriously urge you all to follow my brethren and myself in worshipping the Great, Red bellied Fire snake who created all things.
AND do not confuse our faith with those heretical swine who follow the false idol of the great scarlet Fire Lizard( they really should be prosecuted, persecuted and prostituted).
You’re correct Martyn. Nobody on the political spectrum likes this except maybe a woke copywriter with a manbun who works for the Spinoff.
This is an entirely authoritarian move by the government – most alarmingly it includes political speech, thus giving them the power to arrest their critics.
This country is going down fast
Only ‘many’ religious beliefs ridiculous?
“…incitement of disharmony against religion, based on an intent to stir up, maintain or normalise hatred, through threatening, abusive or insulting communications…”
Life Of Brian doesn’t seem to meet this test though as there’s no intent to do those things. The intent was comedy, however harsh it may have been.
Not according to these people…
Nothing funny about Life of Brian’s Jesus joke
The Catholic archdiocese has called Life of Brian a “blasphemy”, adding that it was a “crime against religion which holds the person of Christ up to comic ridicule.”
The Jewish groups are equally damning. They regard the film as “grieviously insultlng,” and have described it as “a vicious attack on Judaism and the Bible, and a cruel mockery of Christian religious feelings as well.”
Hmmm.
Mac try this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrwIs10XvKA
Words of authority of course. But he missed out on Ozzies?.
‘This country is going down fast’
Prefer going down slowly meself – but whatever floats yer boat.
Ha ! How ironic…?
I watched ” The Life of Brian” again just last night. I watched the original years ago.
It’s fucking brilliant. I particularly liked the bit where Brian’s being chased by Romans up an unfinished tower where he accidentally falls off to what would have been certain doom but as was falling he landed on a UFO zipping past while being chased by yet another. The Aliens, with big fat grey blobs and wearing red lipstick while holding their eyeballs on a one-hand protuberance raced off into space with Brian freaking out on the back seat around a few planets avoiding laser beam fire then back to earth to crash land at the base of the tower the very same tower where Brian crawled out of the wreckage and limped off past an overtly Gay fellow in robes who said “OOOooo… you jammy bugger! ” Was it wrong of me to howl with laughter?
I reckon God would have thought it was hilarious too because he’s/she’s/it’s clearly got a great sense of humour because check out the wacky, ugly, boring, judgemental dipshits of His own creation who fall at his/her/its feet in pious arrogance?
Another funny wee story. I’m renovating a house in the country. I was on the roof nailing down a length of flashing when I hear a car pull up. I peered over the ridge line to see a gaggle of old badly dressed white people cradling briefcases and booklets getting out of the dullest, most dreary, ugly, van-car you’ve ever seen. “Fuckin’ God botherers! Jehovah witnesses I bet” I mumbled to myself as I gripped my claw hammer…
They looked about, they looked at each other, they straightened their chastity belts and rough, woollen under pants and prepared to head to the front door.
Just as they were about to cross the road I said, in my best, deep, God voice ” Hellloooo….? How might I be of assistance…? I am all knowing, all seeing… I can see you from up here, from on my lofty Throne…”
The two old women nearly had kittens. They mysteriously bent at the knees in unison as they turned to head to the safety of their car while the old fellow stopped breathing in his tracks as he gaped up into my tree tops with an open maw.
You could see his mind working overtime as he ran through the possibilities. ” Is it indeed God? Am I having a funny turn? Is that voice coming from the ugly car’s ugly radio? Or is someone taking the piss…?”
Oh how we laughed… Then, he left in a moral dilemma after I told him about Steven Fry when asked what he’d say to God if he discovered upon his death that there was indeed a God.
Fry said “I’d ask God this. Bone cancer in children? What’s that about? ”
The thing with god, I think, is that [we] are God. And [God] is us. So then why do we treat other like dirt often? Or exploit the weaknesses in each other for financial gain? Or be deliberately cruel to each other or hate each other because of our sexy times preferences or the colour of our skin. You’d have to fucking wonder wouldn’t you?
I like this old bugger. He’s a very ‘universal’ fellow in my opinion.
The Guardian.
“James Lovelock is best known as the father of Gaia Theory, the revolutionary idea that life on Earth is a self-regulating community of organisms interacting with each other and their surroundings.”
Is this what God looks like? A lovely old man wearing a Tweed cap?
I hope so.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/18/james-lovelock-the-biosphere-and-i-are-both-in-the-last-1-per-cent-of-our-lives
Calm down, this is great news.
The holy babble and coran are chock full of hate speech.
Use the legislation to have them banned.
Didn’t the last census record more atheists than worshippers in NZ? And trending towards even more non religiosity? In the words of Andrew Little, the people have spoken (and should continue to speak).
Yes we need to look at what has happened in the UK where an ex cop, Harry Miller was engaging in a debate on a proposed gender self I’d bill. Some of his tweets were pretty tasteless, but next thing a cop visits his workplace, and although he was told he hadn’t committed a criminal offence, his name went on a register of hate events. The register covid be visited by prospective employers. Harry Miller took the humberside police to court and won. The judge described the actions of the police as Orwellian.
Life with Brian in an International hit, played in many countries and tens of thousands of DVD are out there. So how will NZ look backing primitive fear of religion and the hypocrisy of that position. DVD Burning festivals?
Such serious maters need deep though and discussion just as our spiritual shepherd demonstrates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R79yYo2aOZs
A shepherd of course tends to sheep. Some say its nice to be in the flock but they probably will get shorn or their sporran will loose weight.
Ah well ignorance is bliss.
Joining a church or changing churches can be fun.
https://www.spaghettimonster.org/about/
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