Let’s be clear, while there certainly was some serious and unacceptable violence meted out by a tiny proportion of BLM & Antifa activists, you could understand the provocation and righteous grievance they had when that violence erupted. That’s not justifying the violence, but there are reasons it happened which are legitimate to take on board when passing judgment.
HOWEVER those fucking Qanon lunatics who believe a freak show-of nonsense – to even attempt to conflate BLM and Antifa violence to their Orange Lives Matter Insurrection is fucking sophistry of the highest order. You are at best being disingenuous in your comparison.
Pity is what I feel towards these Qanaon lunatics.
Watching their fearful faces scrunched in rage as they screamed their alternate reality ‘truth’ at journalists who asked why they were storming the Capital Building was as insightful as it was saddening.
These cultists believe a Satanic child sex murder cabal stole the election from Trump and released a bioengineered virus spread by 5G to bring about a shadowy one world government inside the UN.
The craziest thing about the Qanon belief structure is any idea that the UN could organise anything as comprehensive as a global takeover of anything! ISIS has more of a credible philosophical platform than your average Qanon Trump supporter.
These people have had their fear and ignorance manipulated by Trump, by gutless Republicans and by Facebook algorithms.
Biden’s first act should be kindness and forgiveness to these lunatics in an act of unity. Now that’s a bitter pill for anyone on the left to have to swallow because we would never ne granted such leniency when we protest righteously for genuine grievances and not alt-right fantasies.
But that truly is the only way I think to de-escalate.
Biden should pardon the rioters who were manipulated in a mass action of magnanimous forgiveness but he should be heavy handed on those who did the manipulations.
The 140 Republicans who still empowered Trump’s lie of mass fraud in the election should all be censured and never have the stain removed from their reputations
Facebook as a network must receive enormous regulation and global taxes to pay for the journalism that must be the antidote to this Qanon madness.
Fox News must be shunned and forever damned for empowering Trump.
And Trump himself must be impeached and banned from ever running again to ensure his malevolence can’t return ever again.
Those sad white angry confused and frightened Orange Lives Matter Insurrectionists should be pitied and forgiven so that there can be some healing, but those who led it, incited it and empowered it – oh they all need to go down.
Hard.
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The real issue with US politics is the partisan divide between the 2 parties. What you propose will only escalate and increase this divide. What happens when the GOP get back in power (for the house it could be as little as 2 years)? What will be their first move? I can tell you more of the same. Imagine house investigations into Biden for 2 years lead by Nunes and co.
2 weeks. For the fucking life of me I can’t believe while the top brass of both parties come together and agree on a process for 14 fucking days! Then top GOP officials tell Trump to button it or they’ll impeach the fuck out of him.
Over 70 million voted for Trump – that isn’t a negligible amount. Do you really want to start a civil war because what you are proposing will increase that chance. Stop with the incrimination and start with the healing. That is the only way out of this rabbit hole both sides have lead the US into to.
14 fucking days!!!
Well said, indeed, forgive the insurrectionists. They’re part of a tragic class war predating Donald Trump – perhaps well described by Joe Baigeant as ‘ white trashonomics,’ and with absolutely no fix in sight.
I thought the same after the twin towers, but Wellington’s hopeless Dominion newspaper ran an editorial whinging, “ Why would they do this sort of thing?” and the USA proceeded to launch its war on terror whilst being the terror, making oodles of money for the industrial military complex, killing and maiming its own ‘patriots’, and providing more damaged veterans to people the cold city streets.
Any government should have a strategy: presumably to survive by bringing prosperity to the populace.
Only a fool in the planning section would seek to impeach a President who is gone in a week. Such a strategy exacerbates the deep divisions which manifest at this time of Colour Revolution Kama and which expose Nancy as a liability.
If Nancy ignites an already loaded cannon, it is she who should be strapped across the barrel
Like Trump is a result of corrupt politics, Fox is the result of corrupt mainstream media.
The mental gymnastics going here shouldn’t surprise me.
I totally agree.
Letting the insurrectionists off would be a brilliant move both psychologically and strategically but it must come at a price. The price of, say, 4 kg of Ecstacy powder which trump and his cronies must take then they must be subjected to twelve hour periods of cuddling interspersed with rescued dog youtube clips.
You think I’m joking ? I’m not fucking joking.
We must remember? Trumps father fucked him up. Donald Trump’s father would have been a soulless fucking monster and poor little baby Donald wouldn’t have stood a chance. His innocent little amygdala would have fed RAW emotions to his hippocampus and that’s why Donald is an orange tyrant with a penchant for killing.
This woman was quite insane. She strangled a friend, cut an unborn baby from that friend’s womb and tried to convince people it was hers.
That’s the act of an insane person. Sane people don’t do shit like that.
And yet she was imprisoned for 67 years then executed under the presidency of an other insane person; Donald Trump.
“Lisa Montgomery to be first female federal inmate executed in 67 years”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/17/lisa-montgomery-first-female-federal-inmate-executed–67-years-brandon-bernard
Read this. Fred Christ Trump.
Wikipedia.
Frederick Christ Trump Sr. (October 11, 1905 – June 25, 1999) was a prominent American real estate developer in New York City. He was the father of Donald Trump, the 45th president of the United States.
In partnership with his mother, Elizabeth Christ Trump, Fred began a career in home construction and sales. Their real estate development company was incorporated as “E. Trump & Son” in 1927 (later called the Fred Trump Organization). It grew to build and manage single-family houses in Queens, barracks and garden apartments for U.S. Navy personnel near major shipyards along the East Coast, and more than 27,000 apartments in New York City.
Trump was investigated by a U.S. Senate committee for profiteering in 1954, and again by the State of New York in 1966. Donald became the president of his father’s real estate business in 1971, and they were sued by the U.S. Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division for violating the Fair Housing Act in 1973. In later years, Fred conducted fraudulent schemes to benefit Donald, and suffered from Alzheimer’s disease. In 1997, when his worth exceeded a billion dollars, he transferred the majority of his buildings to his surviving children, who sold them in 2004 for over 16 times their previously declared worth, effectively dodging hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes.
As a little child with an incredibly fragile baby brain Trump trump would have been driven insane by his equally insane father so that puts any new USA administration under the spotlight I reckon. The USA has a golden opportunity given past events to show the world who regard the U$A as a role model an entirely new direction to take. My grave fear is that the U$A is well under the spell of a fascist capitalist ‘democracy’ where ego, narcissism, exploitation and manipulation is de rigueur for the daily running of the most unstable, over reaching and generally insane country on Earth.
Except perhaps ours.
AO/NZ.
Larger land area than the UK but with only 5 million people and our world class primary export commodity is food and wool yet we have homelessness and poverty and the highest incarceration levels of any indigenous population while we have meteoric house prices which keep rising.
Fred Christ Trump would have been very impressed and envious.
Some of those veterans were amongst the horde that sought to violently overthrow the USAn government!
Don’t pardon the traitors. Those who didn’t enter the Capitol itself might perhaps be given parole once sentenced, but should be liable to serve their full term in prison if they so much as jaywalk near a federal building.
..and the impeachment that will do nothing to ‘Heal’ America, rather the opposite ..and which, by implication, suggests that Trump could not only run for President…but could actually win. Clearly, despite holding both houses, the democrats aren’t planning any game changing policies…they are simply ..yet again ..bracing for a massively disillusioned public…and one could also say they are hoping to further entrench the divide to help prop up the false narrative that the only thing holding back Progressive policies is the Trump supporters hold over the Republicans..
/agree (both with you MB and the commenters). Which is not to say that’s already part of the Biden/Harris strategy.
But he might have to be quick before 5G delivery of compulsory vaccines and vitamins through vibratory methodology and the rays from various prismatic crystals get them – all in a pyramid scheme not unlike the old Amway. If that’s going to be the case then there’s no hope.
And there’s also a contingent of disciples here in lil ‘ole Nu Zuln that punches above its weight who’re standing by their man who’ve signed up to the cause – many professing to be ‘lefties’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2gRbN8jKb4
Still, I ‘spose the left never demanded its followers needed to have an IQ, just as the right struggle to find anyone that has one above 1 (I, I, I, I, me, me, me)
That’s to assume there is negligible connect between those who call on the soldiers, and the soldiers. That is crap. The soldiers ain’t gonna go away. This is a war. Do them all. Seriously hard !
Really dumb idea! These fully blown Nazis are never going to respect bleeding heart liberal forgiveness. Some of them were wearing ‘Camp Auschwitz’ T-shirts for god’s sake. Others were in full camouflage gear carrying hand ties while others were filmed literally beating a cop to death. What these hard core brainwashed idiots need is prolonged de-brainwashing, of the type seen in Stanley Kubrick’s film Clockwork Orange. American fascism is a particular brand of white supremacy that is rooted in the history of the country – its genocidal domination and enslavement of populations of colour (as well as its continued and ongoing decimation of non-human species. We see variations of them in Aotearoa NZ – they are called duck-shooters). These morons in the U.S. are an insult to the thousands of young Americans who died fighting the German and Japanese versions of fascism. Thus they illustrate a lack of even basic education and certainly don’t have the wherewithal for self-examination that makes them responsible citizens of the modern world. They are pre-modern deluded delinquents who deserve the full force of the law (preferably treated as test-monkeys and fired off into space).
Last I recall, a police officer was murdered by these people by being bludgeoned to death. There was also an attempt to kidnap and possibly murder many members of Congress. Not the sort of thing one lets off.
Trump should pardon Julian Assange
Reason and democracy were proved in the storming of the Congress buildings. Hence the vehement explosions on the non-Right media side in America. And later there ‘must’ be a reflection on the lack of the spirit of democracy in that country. Both the Democrats and the MSM veer to the right of that, reflecting their employers.
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