And just like that, the entire NZ Intelligence Apparatus who failed us so spectacularly during the Christchurch terror attack, have all been quietly let off the hook for any accountability whatsoever.
This is the list of NZ security apparatus, many acronyms you’ve never heard of, who are supposed to keep us safe with mass surveillance powers from this very type of terrorism…
- The SIS (Secret Intelligence Services)
- The GCSB (Government Communications Security Bureau)
- The NSG (National Security Group)
- The Police Intelligence Unit
- The CNSN (Cabinet National Security Committee)
- The ODESC (Officials’ Committee for Domestic and External Security Coordination)
- The SIB (Security and Intelligence Board)
- The CTCC (Counter-Terrorism Coordinating Committee)
- The NICC ( National Intelligence Coordination Committee)
- The IAD (Intelligence and Assessments Directorate)
- The NRU (National Risk Unit)
- The NSPD (National Security Policy Directorate)
…they collectively cost us in excess of $100million per year, and when it comes to spying on Muslims, Nicky Hager, Me, Greenpeace, Māori protesting oil drilling, environmentalists and the MANA Party, oh the State breaches our rights all the fucking time without blinking, but a white supremacist terrorist who used white supremacy keywords online, with complaints from the Muslim Community itself and complaints from other gun owners,oh no, apparently our entire Intelligence Apparatus failed and didn’t have any idea whatsoever.
You can see why they’ve slapped a 30year secrecy clause on everything.
These Departments are supposed to be the ones who are asking ‘what if’, they are supposed to be the ones with the imagination to see where the next threat is coming from and they have enormous mass surveillance powers and resourcing to do this.
And yet, nothing.
What is most egregious is that instead of flaying these fucking Departments raw for this cascade failure, the Labour Government are bewilderingly allowing their failure to be quietly eclipsed by this bullshit ‘solution’ by implementing blasphemy and heresy laws and gender identity hate speech powers???
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
What has protecting religion and gender identity hate speech laws got to do with the massive intelligence apparatus utterly failing?
Look, I appreciate that when it comes to big issues, the sleepy hobbits of muddle Nu Zilind are pretty stupid, but are they honestly so stupid to believe that gender identity hate speech laws are a solution to a catastrophic failure by every intelligence agency?
Are we really this stupid to swallow some bullshit virtue signalling as a solution?
Are we?
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So let’s summarize:
1). Our intelligence agencies fucked up
2). Our police royally fucked up
If either (or both) had done their jobs properly Christchurch would not have happened. Don’t buy into the delusion theories about explosives and vehicles. These are assumptions without any compelling or concrete evidence. The police involved with the granting of the firearm license should be now facing manslaughter charges. The Intelligence bosses involved should now not have a job nor another public sector role for the rest of their natural life.
If anyone is in a shadow of doubt look at the written replies from Tarrant on his registration form. This is the same fucktard that visited such renowned tourist hotspots as Afghanistan and North Korea proceeding the massacre. Surely that alone would have warranted an interest from our intelligence community. But alas computer said no. This is little New Zealand and it appears all parties apart from somewhat Act are content with this whitewash.
Right or left we should demand better from our public institutions. Competency should be a prerequisite not an exception.
Nash and Mike Bush should be up on manslaughter charges for overseeing this failure that lead directly to 51 deaths.
How strange Nash is no longer police minister and no one has said why.
How strange Bush got to retire with honours before the report was allowed to be released.
A bit tough on Nash. As a minister you can’t control operational matters in your ministry until the proverbial hits the fan. Bush should have been sacked as there was obviously no oversight in regards to gun registration and/or license processes. Its highly likely that both of them were complicit in the cover up of what happened however!!
No not harsh, deserved:
https://kiwigunblog.wordpress.com/2020/08/18/stuart-nash-and-jacinda-ardern-still-refuse-to-address-prior-warning-of-a-christchurch-event/
“Back in June I decided to get – on the record – an accounting of what action the Prime Minister and her Police Minister took after my warning that failures in Police vetting would lead to a gun tragedy.”
“I included evidence of police admitting to arming thousands of criminals. Of them admitting to arming multiple killers. Of Police arming gangs with tens of thousands of dollars in guns – in one case alone.
Finally, I warned of the most senior police lying and then being forced to admit that even years after these horrors they had taken NO action to change policy.
So the threat continued.
My efforts to follow up have been met with complete contempt….”
If that is the case then I agree with you.
“Nash and Mike Bush should be up on manslaughter charges for overseeing this failure”.. So who was minister when the policies were initiated in the first place? Where does it say that the incoming ministers were getting accurate, and comprehensive briefings? The people put in charge of the intelligence agencies were generally all appointed in the term of the Key government… Are we all becoming goldfish now?
The present editor of the Dom-Post has visited Nth Korea a few times, but she doesn’t strike me as being a white supremacist – in fact she doesn’t really seem to like white NZ’ers as an ethnicity – I think she used to work for the Washington Post, so it could be seat belt time.
Fucken useless the lot of them and many are paid big fat salaries. And once again they blame the system.
As for our dear police their apologies are wearing thin. And I see judeath gollins is standing up for the police making lame excuses as usual. This is judeath who said over weigh people are weak and who claims to use diversity of thought.
This is very cynical politics at play here.
Police Association immediately started making negative statements on gun owners after the atrocity lest people look at police too closely, police put out a statement at the time which was a plain lie saying Tarrants licensing was all by the book, media bought the lie and did no digging.
This whitewash royal commission with very narrow reference terms avoiding Arderns own weakening of gun laws, was designed to come up with “something the government can do” that looks flashy (look! Over there!) which strangely enough marries in with what the labour faithful wanted – woke hate speech laws.
It’s throwing a bone to the Labour Party, nothing to do with preventing another Tarrant.
Next day police released their own report in to their response showing how awesome they were to further deflect from licensing failure.
The action the cops that stopped him took was top notch in my book, the intentional gun toting instillation of fear and moral panic for weeks after was not, it was extremely cynical and coincided with another push to permanently arm themselves -“ for our own safety”.
It also helps deflect nicely from the glaring and glossed over failure of particularly police in administering gun licensing over the last 3 years, and the facts now buried for 30 years.
You can find online, that the demonized “gun lobby” warned police not to cut vetting, to ban 30 round magazines and to background check Australians properly after several 501 gang members were given licenses.
Nothing was done and here we are.
The police response reminds me of an arsonist in a fire department. A philosophy of fixing the ambulance in a thousand pieces at the bottom of the cliff rather than preventing the ambulance going over the cliff in the first place.
I expect nothing more of little Aotearoa at this juncture.
i agree with most of what you’ve written Martyn ….
…. But you are low-balling the money and resources misdirected and wasted when it came to protecting Muslim New Zealanders..
Quoting Frank Macskasky : “As I reported last year, both the GCSB and NZSIS enjoyed a considerable increase in funding over a decade:
GCSB:
2008/09: $48,888,000 (up $8,543,000 from 2007/08)
2018/19: $158,029,000
NZSIS:
2008/09: $36,889,000 (up $3,138,000 from 2007/08)
2018/19: $82,843,000”
The bigger theirs budgets the greater their failure in my eyes ,,, and less excuses for’ resource starved’ “Jihadi bride” hype honcho Rebbeca Kittridge to be keeping her job ,,,
Regarding hate speech I’m ambiguous for a couple of reasons ,,,
a) In public most of the abused dished out towards Muslims is directed at women ,,, because unlike men the W omens headgear specifically identifys them as Muslim.,,,
“I don’t care that your people ( Muslim ) were killed in Christchurch, you should have been shot too,” ,,,, “go home Muslim slags” ,,, ” Muslim Breeder of terrorists”, “Jihadi bride” etc etc.
Presumably the above examples of bigoted stereotype abuse is not covered under our race relations regulations ,,, which to me seems an anomaly ,,,
It’s not black or white ,,,,and perhaps it would be better to bring ‘identity abuse’ into our ‘offensive behavior ‘ laws ,,, the public expression of Islamophobia , antisemitism, homophobia etc, is offensive,,, especially to the victim its directed at.,,, Its all based on and comes from bigotry or racism, stinking thinking….
…The penalty should be education or incorporated into “Anger management groups” as part of their unacceptable abuse treatment.
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The real threat to free speech was passed by National ,,, where Judith Collins lied and abused the roastbuster victrims for a second time ,,,, using them as a pretext to pass online ‘bullying’ laws ,,, but really seem to be designed to muzzle true and embarrassing information about political operatives being on the internet ,,,,,
This blog was threatened with this censorship law ,,, it needs to be removed before the next ‘dirty govt’ refines it and makes it work as intended. https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/04/06/exclusive-dear-netsafe-you-can-censor-the-daily-blog-the-day-you-take-the-keyboard-from-my-cold-dead-hands/
Finally the real bullshit from the christchurch terror attack and 30 year cover up ,,,, http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2020/12/against-new-counterterrorism-agency.html
“the report of the inquiry into the Christchurch massacre has finally been released, and (of course) exonerated the spies and the police from any blame for their failures. Meanwhile, it is recommending the creation of a new, specialist counter-terrorism agency. So as usual, the spies will be given even more money and power, despite a massive display of incompetence which saw 51 people killed. That’ll teach them to do their jobs properly!”
I did like this recommendation, though a little surprised that it was not already the case:
“The Royal Commission of Inquiry into the terror attacks has recommended making the reporting of gunshot wounds mandatory.”
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/police-not-alerted-wounds
Though how that idiot managed to shoot himself in the face and leg (and nowhere else) with a single round is beyond me. Probably something to do with the steriod use – police apparently having no idea where he got it (what gyms did he go to?)!
Are you seroius. Like me and the vast majority of New Zealanders, it would never have occured to them that some wack job would shoot up a religious group be it christian muslem ot any other religion. When you talk about complaints from other gun club members. What do you expect from a bunch of red necks who like to shooting small animals.
Who would have thought that terrorists would fly into the World Trade Center in New York in the most powerful country in the world , where was the blame game there.
A veritable wealth of commentary on such topics, am sure.
“Fucktard”, (now THAT should be asserted as intellectual property by the commentata). It sure has a zany/tangy ring to it!
Indeed an extensive list of agencies and committees. The Secret Intellegence Service (MI6), Great Britain included also (?), but I’m not sure whether NZ taxpayers fund them directly as they do the NZ Security Intellegence Service.
When it all gets too hot or too overwhelming to cope with, just go back to basics:
That it is almost impossible to achieve security without secrecy and privacy, and it is almost impossible to achieve privacy and secrecy without security.
Any mum and dad with an infant baby monitor in the bedroom or nursery should be able to recognize this.
If mumsy or the nanny starts hearing menacing (devlin’) noises coming from the baby monitor reciever, it’s either time to change the device for a more secure one, or it’s time to call up the shrink for an appointment (ideally funded by the NZ national health service).
Have a good one!
It’s basic economics. Do we want to keep building towards an America that calls is 4 eyes or do we build towards China.
Oh. And please excuse the spelling errors contained in my last post. It’s getting that these days there’s very little that really needs to be checked or verified. I guess all that’s really important is that the CONTEXT is clear.
This is what the powerful, corporate funded and promoted trans rights lobbyists do. The NZ Green Party especially are following this agenda.
It’s laid out in this report by the international law firm, Dentons, available here:
https://www.iglyo.com/only-adults/
page 20: “7. Tie your campaign to more popular reform”
also “8. Avoid excessive press coverage and exposure” more on these pages.
See also, see page 18:
“1. Target youth politicians”
and more.
This is how the NZ Green Party, and to a lesser extent the NZ Labour Party have been captured by the very well funded neoliberal, genderist campaign, and why they are using the exact same play book as laid out by the Dentons’ document.
Follow the money eg US organisation ARCUS. And supported by a load of big corporates like Microsoft.
Watch for more genderist amendments to be slipped into other NZ government bills focused primarily on other issues.
Of course we need protections against discrimination of trans IDed and other gender non-conforming people, in education, housing, jobs, income, etc. Plus relevant publicly funded support and services. But there’s a massive neoliberal over-reach being promoted by some wealthy international players – and it’s sneaky, undemocratic, and it ain’t progressive.
This ‘historic fuckup’ was another sign of too much reliance by a lazy Governmnent who uses the easy way out by relying on overpaid “advisors” dressed up as “experts” but are really low level bureaurocrats and nothing more, so as a wise man said “You only get what you pay for” and we overpaid this lot for sure and got nothing for it.
Its also mirroring another fuckup within the police as they with the help of useless green party members allowed the new fleet of police vehicles to be oil powered vehicles not electic as the government said two days ago that they would now move with “URGENCY ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND HAVE THE PUBLIC SECOR LEAD THE CHANGE TO ELECTRIC VEHILES” WHAT THE FUCK@#$%^&*()
We are literally fallling apart using ‘bullshit bureaurocrats’.
This is New Zealand, all care no responsibility, why would any of them be accountable this is who we are as a nation as a society. FTPBTW.
I repeat my comment to the item titled “Sorry” by Efeso Collins.
Why does it take a Royal Commission Report before these organisations say sorry? What about before the report came out? Oh, that’s right – let’s not put our hands up and say sorry just in case we don’t have to and then we can carry on as before.
The most insincere one was from that Kitteridge woman who said sorry because her organisation, the SIS, under her control and direction, focussed on the Muslim community in New Zealand as being terrorists. The SIS deliberately targeted the Muslim community and now, after the brutal and horrific massacre of good decent Muslim New Zealanders, they say sorry. How insulting to and demeaning of the Muslim community in New Zealand is that? It’s like, we can justify going hard-out on you for years because we think you are all terrorists, but wait, the Royal Commission Report has highlighted stuff that we never, ever thought about or cared to think about – that just maybe you are not terrorists – so lets say sorry about that, but we will continue our surveillance of you anyway. I sneered at Kitteridge when she put on what she thought was a sincere face to deliver what she tried to present as a sincere apology.
Sadly, there will still be those unintelligent, uneducated haters in our society, generally older white angry self-entitled males (I was going to say men but they are not real men) who will still label our New Zealand Muslim community and all Muslims as terrorists. These people are the truly ugly face of racial and religious hatred in our society.
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