There are two people very happy that the virus is back.
Conspiracy Theorist Billy TK who as an oracle and prophet to the utterly insane predicted an outbreak in August that would be used by Jacinda to take over NZ and Judith Collins who can only win if NZ loses to the virus.
Judith is on the side of the virus, here is her press release already framing this as Jacinda’s failure…
…last week her Deputy was attempting to claim that the Government knew something when it called for masks to be at the ready in case something slipped past our border and now Judith is attacking the Government for not being prepared enough!
The only way National wins is if we fail to keep this virus out and the people blame Jacinda for that.
W on the Left will scream at how unfair this is, but this was always the risk. If we didn’t;t keep the thing out if NZ and it git loose, it was always going to be blamed on Jacinda and Labour.
Right now the track and trace system is our only way to shut down this flare up, if the Government manage to do that, the electorate will be grateful to Jacinda, if the flare up erupts and isn’t contained, Labour will be hurt at the polls.
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Well, if we allow National to win the election, we can be clear in our minds how Collins will run this pandemic. With an iron fist. How many people will that kill?
Madame would be issuing orders according to her level of eyebrow rise. Arrests for all who fail to read her eyebrows correctly.
Bert you can bet that Collins wont be increasing the test rate and will attempt to kill off the elderly at the same time so this article says it all; if they don’t test for the elderly they are effectively allowing them to die of Covid19.
We should remember it is NZF who is the only political Party who stands up for the elderly in NZ.
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO2008/S00148/ceac-agrees-with-govt-to-go-fast-again-on-fighting-covid-19-outbreak.htm
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CEAC Agrees With Govt’ To ‘go Fast’ Again On Fighting COVID 19 Outbreak.
Wednesday, 12 August 2020, 9:42 am
Press Release: Citizens Environmental Advocacy Centre
Back in March 17th 2020 – WHO (world health Organisation) warned the global community test, test, test, everyone suspected of COVID 19 virus infections, today our senior epidemiologist James Baker advised to test multiple times, as he states that some infections of Covid 19 are reaching the other parts of the body, such as the lungs rather than remaining in the throat, so he confirms that multiple sampling for the virus is advised if any symptoms are returning of an infections have yet to complete full testing of anyone in very close contact with the public.
We at CEAC call for Ministry of Health to test, test, test as was advised back on March 17th as low figures were only done to date.
Media is awash with suggestions we all open up the economy now but; CEAC say’s let’s do the whole job properly by testing firstly please Ministry of Health, so until this is done we will again spread this COVID 19 virus if we wrongly just open up the economy and our borders again.
Until Government complete the clear directions from the World Health Organisation recommendations to test, test, test, to fight COVID 19 with all the controls we need to isolate any spreading of the COVID 19 virus by anyone not yet tested for the infection, we will kill our last chance to win the fight, and we will all suffer and flounder.
Simple isn’t it, when we do testing of all citizens and travellers we will have control over this virus.
• We again ask Government to begin testing all the active citizens in our community firstly to see where this COVID 19 virus is hiding by the use two separate test procedures; recommended as the gold standard.
• As CEAC has said before; the test statistics must now be incorporated with the current ‘swab test’ and now with – “the antibody test (also called a serology test.) which confirm all who developed immunity to Covid 19 before the virus leads to death.
We at CEAC have been for many months requesting NZ Ministry of Health expand our COVID 19 testing to all citizens, and this includes all rest home workers and residents, to capture all these lost statistics in our pandemic, but the Ministry is so far not planning to include rest home workers to align us to the UK model of data collection.
FACTS:
• Elderly are now most venerable and are dying in NZ now without being diagnosed if, they previously had or still have Covid 19 that is the cause of death by using two testing protocols explained below.
• UK are claiming that early diagnosis and treatment give patients a better chance of survival.
• So clearly we not finding all the complete more accurate data and are running without adequate accurate data on this Covid 19 pandemic to save lives.
• As CEAC has said before; the statistics must incorporate with the current ‘swab test’- “the antibody test (also called a serology test.) which confirm all who developed immunity to Covid 19 before death.
WHY?
• We need to know who has actually developed immunity to the virus.
• We do not have these tools at present in the test protocol
• NZ Ministry of health is using only the nasal or throat swab test, which can ‘migrate’ from the nasal or throat in a few days we are being advised.
• The current ‘nasal throat Swab’ coronavirus test look for the virus’ genetic material in a sample of mucus, which is usually collected by a nasal or throat swab administered by a health care worker. and only diagnose a current infection.
• Whereas the antibody test (also called a serology test.) finds who develops immunity to Covid 19.
• It signifies that the person has been exposed to the virus long enough that their immune system has been responding to it- which is the real gold standard now being used.
• Ministry of Health must incorporate with the current ‘swab test’- “the antibody test (also called a serology test.) which confirm all who develop immunity to Covid 19, to save citizens lives and avoid false negative throat nasal swab tests.
• Conduct full Covid 19 testing of all our citizens firstly and complete a full assessment of solid robust controlled ‘track & tracing’ of the Covid 19.
• We must have mass testing of all our whole community firstly to have a solid ‘robust tracing process’ to fight Covid 19.
And we need to fully investigate this family, where they’d been and who they’d been in contact with. It sounds really dodgy.
Yes Bert the first cab of the rack will be our Maori people followed closely by our elderly. Yes it will be survival of the fittest and every man for himself.
bert-There is a faulty assumption in your comment, that Judith might be competent. She might have us believe that she has an iron fist but nothing she’s ever done ( vis-Whale oil and dirty politics to name a couple) has persuaded me that she has competence.
Her lack lustre leadership performance to date shouts incompetence.
Actuallly I like that alliteration, ‘lack lustre leadership’
Sorry, I jumped to the conclusion she was competent, I should have realized when Key dumped her.
No amount of lockdown is going to work if this virus is simply coming back from people that have had it.
If multiple new cases crop up over the whole country in the next week or so, especially in places remote from the quarantine hotels, we’ll know with near certainty that this virus goes into a dormant stage with an incubation period of roughly 100 days.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/south-koreas-new-coronavirus-twist-recovered-patients-test-positive-again-11587145248
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12354865
This is all on Jacinda and Ash. The middle won’t be so forgiving this time if there is a flare up. Blood is in the water……
dont talk rubbish it is not their fault and we all knew that there was a risk ffs. It changes nothing i.e NATIONAL ARE NOT FIT TO GOVERN EVER!!!
Blood is in the water……
Damn! Frank has done it. He has uncovered that secret vault where Ashley and Jacinda hatched the virus and unleashed it on the world. Oh well… their secret is out now.
Are you peeing blood Frank? You need help, go see a Doctor.
@ Frank the Tank … in case you have already forgotten, this is a pandemic, with no template to follow or act as a guideline! We can only do our best, as has been the case in NZ since the first cases appeared.
However, if you can justify your comment with evidence pointing to fact, then please do so.
They want to ‘do a little dance’ and take credit for any success then they have to also take blame for screw ups…
Truman had a plaque on his desk, “The Buck stops here!” and they need to wear this
‘Indeed the buck stops here’
And to date, they’ve performed better than most country’s govt’s, – and will do so again… show some appreciation for your govt, peoples and country.
Yes, similar to the way Brownlee took responsibility for the Christchurch rebuild clusterfuck.
BG: Before you again slander Jacinda or Ashley, would you please supply a LINKED reference showing what the hell you’re referring to?
WHERE has Jacinda (or Ashley) EVER “Taken credit for” what they have achieved?
Waiting… Waiting…
Otherwise, please STFU!!
Woolly Angus,
Four things we can safely assume.
You’re anti-vax.
You believe the moon landing was a hoax.
You’re a dyed in the Woolly Angus National Party supporter.
You absolutely despise Ardern.
@ WA? What the fuck are you on about? You want a rampant virus used as an excuse to hold people ‘accountable’ ? What does that even mean? What’s Labour done that Labour should be held accountable for in any respect, much less the brilliant way Labour’s acted in unison to keep us safe and well these past few months? Do you read? Can you read? Do you think? Does your gold fish have access to your internet accounts?
If the loathsome natzo’s were ‘in’ we’d be like a mini ‘merica. Tits deep in bizarre and dangerous narratives proffered by nuts to appeal to nuts as judith pondered the seemingly mystical powers of orange paint. And no disrespect to actual nuts btw.
In my opinion, Labour can’t be faulted in the way they, et al, are dealing with this sneaky little bastard of a virus and they’re shaping up to be a game changing government generally. Fingers crossed.
As for judith collins? judith collins can just fuck right off and she can drag her cabal of narcissistic msm sociopaths scuttling around in the shadows with her, hopefully over a cliff.
Calm down countryboy. They say love is blind. So is hatred.
Thank you for articulating this response
@WA – what he said!!
National campaigned for looser border restrictions from the start and are now flailing around trying to attack the government’s response. National’s attack dogs are in full flight and disarray meanwhile Coling’s husband is trying to wriggle out of restoring a mine site that they ravaged at Ross on the WestCoast.
Collins husband, Mr Wong-Tung, is currently threatening to take NZ in the direction of the new order in Hong Kong, by suing one of our few truly independent news outlets, Newsroom: Newsroom 11th August 2020 Wong Tung Threatens
How can Collins lay in bed at night knowing her husband is head of a mining company and her party is a strong advocate for mining. Can anyone else see conflict here. Throw in Scott Simpson for the Coromandel and you see how blindly loyal the Nats are. Simpson promoting mining in the Coromandel just doesn’t sit right .
It won’t matter what she says, she is toast after the election. Its only another smokescreen to distract people away from the shambles in the Auckland central selection after one of their own was doing the dirty on ringing talk back shows to discredit Nuwi Samarakone…by showing his true colours in not wanting a brown skin person. Is there anything worthy about the national party? Everybody is just in it for themselves. I turn the tv or radio off anytime Collins speaks cos I don’t want to hear the bullshit. Chris Bishop is another bottom feeder doing the bidding of daddy. Just my opinion that’s all…
And you, Woolly Angus, have just won the “Dumbest Comment on TDB” award for August.
Congratulations! May your efforts be an inspiration to National Trolls everywhere.
It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Punch and Judy were behind this latest outbreak.
Good god.
What stupid blind partisan hatred our politics has descended to.
Have a word with yourself.
I agree with KC&CO on this. It is rubbish to suggest that either party is behind this outbreak – bloody STUPID!
Though following Bishop’s effort previously, and Woodhouse’s delay with the info, I can see how might doubts arise. Nevertheless, it is not in any way helpful to think like that at the moment.
And for every noxious theory that one side “did it”, there will be an equal cry that the other side did it. Very confused, paranoid minds, NOT helpful at all.
Relax. A throw away comment regarding the Nasty Natz isn’t worth getting all shitty. I don’t seriously think the Natz had anything to do with this. But I stand by my comment. They would do anything to get back into power, including helping to with the reinfection of Covid19 into NZ as a means of seriously discrediting the Govt. pandemic response and going into full attack mode based on this. Plenty of commenters have said as much, the achilles heel of Labours election prospects will be another Covid outbreak and Lockdown. Nuff said. Sleep well.
Ok. No probs.
Collins wants to lead the country as PM, yet she is irresponsibly shooting from the hip at the PM without being informed / knowledgeable about the full facts of what has happened. Certainly not the kind of, as a country, jump first, fix later person we need for the role of PM.
Not once has Collins offered an alternative solution other than “it will not get into the country under National ” Now that’s a dead fire plan.
Now that’s a dead fire plan.
AKA a LIE.
What an utterly stupid comment. This is a pandemic. Why don’t you just move to Melbourne.
In my view; this lockdown across Auckland – because of a South Auckland incident, could be a game changer for Collins.
Notwithstanding my previous bog: https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2020/07/22/guest-blog-ross-meurant-why-im-voting-for-jacinda/
Wellsford locked down?
Even north of the Bridge is not gonna go down well.
Like or lump it: people react adversely to adverse impacts on their space.
The adverse impact on the business sector – is going to seriously jeopardise the good will which Jacinda has accumulated.
Racism is definitely likely to raise its head again – this time the Chinese will be the target.
To ignore reality is to tread on dangerous ground.
Are you suggesting the PM should have handled this outbreak differently? If so, how?
If as you say, the electorate responds with bat-shit crazed racism against Chinese (why Chinese?) how should the PM respond?
What I wonder is, have you been attending Billy TK’s rallies?
What suspect you’re doing is trying to drum up anxiety and fear just for the hell of it.
The political impact will depend on the details how this outbreak occurred. Examples:
We have known for weeks that the bus drivers taking incoming passengers to quarantine weren’t tested or isolated. Did a driver take it back to his family?
Did the infection come from one of Jacinda’s ‘luvvie’ friends who received ‘accelerated quarantine’ because they were working on a movie?
Either instance will destroy Labour’s re-election chances because it will show, once again, that “being kind” isn’t enough: Competence is also important.
My version is that it could have always been in the community since the lock down ended, but since the vast majority of cases are either asymptomatic or mild, it could have been bouncing around for weeks without anyone knowing.
Competence is also important.
A serious question, Andrew: Which three or four countries in the world have best managed the pandemic, have shown they had more competence in dealing with it (as you see it)?
Instead of calling judeath, ‘crusher collins’ maybe we should change her name to ‘Covid collins’ she is like a virus after all she is becoming more viral and nastier by the day.
Ace!
Brilliant ‘Covid is Pa’.
Covid Collins.
Moistened my Tenaladies when I read your comment.
Thanks for lifting my Level 3 mood.
‘Moistened my Tenaladies’ had the same effect on me!!!
@Woolly Angus. What an incredibly bizarre comment to make. This is not this Government’s fault. The Government did not reintroduce it. It has done everything it can to eradicate COVID-19 from the country and because of the measures it took we were COVID free for over 100 days and the envy of the rest of the world. So what do you mean “No-one will be held accountable for this reintroduction of COVID. Non-one in this government ever is…”?
Woolly thinking, Angus. Chris Bishop was boasting about his ‘advocating’ abilities on twitter, as soon as the news was out that the two women for whom he advocated were indeed positive and had interacted with others. He saw his action in advocating for those women as a win. (Accountability much?)
When all is said and done, all of the alarmist reactions devoid of scientific proof, the probable illegality of governmental overreach, the orders by decree issued after late night collaboration, the rabid health industry itching to sell stuff, the media footsoldiers who really have no fucking idea, the ridiculous militarisation of society to fight microscopic enemies, the visiting by government officials to the sugar rush mask manufacturers this week rather than promotion of sustainable and innovative industries which will unite and save future generations, the constant threats culminating in preordained declarations of ‘reinfection’ of communities by the medical industrial complex (“it’s not a case of if but when”), the lockdown just ahead of the vote and one day before dissolution of parliament, the zero deaths from this flu virus in New Zealand but HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS dead in another country alone, and the silence by the academic community (do they enjoy their paid lockdown time at home?) pushing back on unconstitutional orders by decree which will probably result in a world with much worse problems than just letting people get sick, I’m with the indigenous ‘conspiracy theorist’ on this one.
Maybe one day Jodes will visit our shores and discover how wrong he or she got it.
Re: ” the lockdown just ahead of the vote and one day before dissolution of parliament, “. Sorry, Jody. Jacinda should have had a chat with the coronavirus and asked it not to show itself until later and preferably not to kill any more people until after the election. They obviously got their dates and times mixed up. Tsk tsk.
Proofreading before you push the Publish button would be nice.
We all knew it was only a matter of time before the virus got back into our communities. The more people that come through our borders from ravaged countries, the higher the risks. I see this outbreak as an opportunity for us as a country to show the world how we can deal with the problem just like we did last time. It is important that we contain the virus, find the source, do the track, tracing and testing. We were all warned about the importance of track and tracing but really did we all listen and did we heed the advice nah! we have become a bit complacent. I blame our mainstream media for some of this complacency. Why? they have banged on and on and on about how many days we have been community Covid free. This has also effected other countries putting us in an enviable position. I cannot understand why people would refuse a tests when I had to fight to get one, it makes me bloody angry. However now is not the time to be divisive. Now is the time to come together and do what is best for us and the betterment of our country.
The virus came through our borders, opened borders and we have no choice, equals increased risks, people need to get that into their heads. We can argue and blame as much as we like. I wonder what is worse we seem to have some very viral people in our country and most of them appear to vote for the National or Act lot. Now who is scaremongering ?
IT CHANGES NOTHING I.E. NATIONAL IS NOT FIT TO GOVERN!!!
The only backlash that will happen will be against this ungrateful opposition leader attacking our health professionals.
Beef up the security I reckon so she cant gatecrash any of of the PM’s media Conferences I reckon?
woolly angus you sound like you have had the wool pulled over your eyes, have a shave man and open up your taringa (ears) or are they painted on.
Fire, floods and pestilence !!!
https://i.redd.it/phrijciqglb41.jpg
Woolly Angus-you forgot to leave out the letter ‘g’ in your surname, representing the place where your words of ‘wisdom’ emanate. Please don’t make me explain… just put a bit of tinfoil over it.
You can’t have it both ways Andrew those, luvvie movie friends are bringing much needed money and jobs into our country. Are you saying judeath brings confidence with her strong team, more jobs and better economy. Perhaps you can tell us how they will do all of this without many people dying.
Yes, similar to the way Brownlee took responsibility for the Christchurch rebuild clusterfuck.
from Fear Facts Exposed FB group–well said and best explanation of Nationals trick they are trying to pull off
What Judith said…
Judith said she is disappointed about this particular Covid outbreak – again.
Then things got very self centred and petty.
Judith was upset that Shane Reti has been trying to tie up Chris Hipkins in meetings since 12 noon but there has been no meeting yet?
National have pestered Chris Hipkins every half hour about this dire matter of doing what National demand – but now it is past 3PM and Hipkins is still focussing on the pandemic rather than National.
Yes – mind boggling isn’t it.
Judith is so upset about the lack of respect for pre-election conventions she needed a press conference about it.
She says this Government must not make major decisions in a pandemic in an agile fast way – without first spending hours having endless consultations with her.
A quick phone call from Jacinda is not good enough at all – says Judith.
The whole thing is about Judith and her election chances.
Judith told us she needs to know immediately – right now – today about the election date – NOT tomorrow, NOT on Monday – nor anything silly like that.
Stamp feet. Huff and puff.
Judith says it is unsustainable to expect a fair election when she is not free to campaign.
A rattle has been spat onto the floor.
New Zealand deserves better – says Judith.
New Zealand is dealing with a Covid lockdown – and there is Judith in all her malignant glory – being a selfish loser.
Judith called upon the PM to shift out the election to where National would benefit most.
Apparently next year suits National best according to Judith.
Judith was self centred, power crazy and she had nothing to say about the people and their jobs or health or anxiety.
Is anyone surprised?
And 20% prefer her as leader.
What Judith said…
And 20% prefer her as leader.
I wonder how many of that 20% are even Kiwis. Do they have citizenship? Are they dual nationals? Is English their second language, do they understand it well? (Let alone Te Reo.) Didn’t we have an MP who would not give interviews in English?
Brian Tregaskin,
You nailed it.
This Covid situation must not be about the health of New Zealanders. It’s all about Judith Collins and her chance of realizing her decades old personal goal of being the PM. As Metallica said so well, Nothing else matters.
The election must be delayed until Chucky’s chances of becoming PM increase. That may take 250 years.
Chucky is now bleating how unfair it is for Ardern to be speaking at all the critically important Covid press conferences. It’s not right as Ardern speaks so well. How dare she be a leader. Dr Bloomfield should run the press conferences with no presence from Ardern. If on the other hand Ardern fumbled through the PC and her popularity went down, would Chucky be still demanding she not be involved in Covid PC’s? Collins is so toxic and blinded by her own personal ambition and the short term nature of her National Party leadership, that she threw her excrement covered dice onto Steven Joyce’s table where a dead cat had previously been.
Collins is the most dangerous leader of any major NZ political party in my 50 something year journey.
What will she deliver today? More tantrums? More toxicity? More arrogance? More vile attacks? More desperation? More petulance being passed off as concern for democracy? More selfishness? Yes to all as she is Judith Collins head of the desperate latrine rodents.
The criminal ruthlessness of National in full display.
Get Jonky back to sell orf more of our assets and persecute the unemployed with harassment. And C8ck S8ck the International Banksters.
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