Is there anymore irresponsible thing to do than challenge the preparedness for Covid?
That is exactly what Brownshirt has done by questioning the masks advice and insinuating that the government knows something that it isn’t telling everyone else…
‘It doesn’t add up’: Gerry Brownlee says Government warning of second wave ‘very puzzling’
After renewed warnings of Covid-19 returning to the community, Brownlee called on the Government to “come clean” on the rate of Covid-19 infections in New Zealand.
…when you have fringe Facebook political parties openly claiming that the virus is a bioweapon spread by 5G, having the deputy leader of the National Party contradict the scientific advice to stock up on masks as a fall back position in case something slips past the border and then have the audacity to suggest the Government is hiding something is outrageous.
National’s desperation is forcing them into dark places.
Brownshirt is one press release away from blaming 5G. This is Trumpian in its delusion.
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Gezza is losing his shit literally
I disagree.
He is wondering why (like me and a reasonable minority) there is scaremongering going on regarding community transmission when there appears no evidence of it nor can it be brought into the country unless there is significant government ineptitude at the border/quarantine.
It’s like Jacinda, Ash and the labour gang want to keep us in fear the whole time and not discuss any other topic.
Frank – Enough with the conspiracy rubbish. IT’S A PANDEMIC. LOOK AT MELBOURNE AND THE ONE GUARD THAT SPREAD IT INTO THE COMMUNITY. LOOK AT THE WORLD. READ UP ON SOME SCIENCE.
You can discuss any topic you like, just try and make it factual.
Frank doesn’t do conspiracy, he does woof woof at parked cars.
Perhaps he could explain why National are punishing those who do have car insurance and the punitive measure of naming and shaming those that don’t?
Fair enough bert.
National supports private insurance companies and would like state superannuation done away with, ACC privatised and eventually charging all Kiwis for health insurance as they demolish the DHBs.
National and Act would implement an insurance based pension as they would support an insurance based health system.
Both extremely inefficient as shown in the US and leaves many penniless to die on the streets. But more money for capitalist transnational investors pirates.
Where what we need is a State owned insurance company as we had years ago. a state option for Kiwisaver as well as a lot more money injected into the state health system
Just like inflation takes a while to work its way through the economy before the prices of goods rise, Covid19 will take a while to work its way through the health system before a vaccine lowers prices.
If the worry and dread are warranted, then this is the explanation that makes the most sense to me.
Sam the vaccine route has yet to be established as a solution. Similar viruses like Sars have not been contained by vaccine inspite of there being 16 years of working towards a satisfactory vaccine, a quest that has now stalled.
Of course if they didn’t inform you of what could happen and it eventuated Frank, what then?
It is not “scaremongering” to recommend that we keep some face masks ready to use if needed. It is basic common sense. They are now being used in just about every country.
Ever been to the child cancer wards, Frank?… I have , spent half my life in and out of there with my son. I saw those wards constantly filled and all the family’s grief as well. As well as my own.
And you know what , Frank?- when SARS was around and swinefly and birdflu , – you should have seen those medical staff and how concerned they were…eh Frank.
Then there’s the elderly, Frank,… sizable number here in NZ , esp with an ageing population. Watcha say , Frank?- should we throw open the borders like John Key reckons we should, and the hell with wearing those oh so trendy masks as well ?
Pshaw… just a few five or ten thousands deaths, whats a few kids and old folks between friends, eh?
Geez mate.
+1,000,000
Seconded.
Wk
Agreed.
Sociopaths.
NZ is short of masks and chemists are ripping people off with the pricing.
What costs less that 50 cents from China including postage, can sell in a chemist for several dollars even though container freight would be less than a cent or two an item along with bulk buying prices of a few cents each.
Frank, it’s called being prepared SHOULD NZ suffer a second wave of CV-19. No scaremongering about it. Plain common sense to keep the people informed.
Gerry Brownlie is politically stirring, to set the alarm bells off. He would be the first to complain and make a fuss if a second wave hit and Kiwis were unprepared for it!
Meh – Gerry only has two tracks “Why does no-one respect me?” and “This is outrageous!”
It may fool the dumber end of National’s hard support base, albeit briefly, but it won’t win him any votes. I’m sure Judith wishes she only had an albatross around her neck.
An albatross around the neck of a snake is a bit hard to imagine.
Barge Through Brownshirt.
The man who barged through airport security doors and at one point wanted to barge through airport security again and throw open our borders. Now he changes tack because he knows that politically stupid and then criticizes a perfectly good measure of preparedness.
Does the clown ever watch the news and wonder why millions of people are wearing masks? – or does he think its just a trendy current fashion statement?
Shut up National.
Are the Nats and ACT now conjoined? Have they become some sort of mutant hybrid? The new NACT party, morphing into existence before voting beings in 2020. ..Extracting votes from the frightened and the feeble minded.
Kheala You can now add the NRA to the group and produce the NACT and NRA party, lots of letters but no sense.
Yes, ..they don’t have to repeat “National”, so it is now NACTRA!
(and so a new party is spawned)
NACT and NRA has a ring to it, bound to be a vote-getter.
Yep, launch of NACTNRA has begun.
(Judarth’s wish is Seymour’s command.)
These types would rather favour tin foil hats over masks.
Yeah, but hang on a minute…?
The Big Jizz is an arrogant bully so I read. I’ve never met him and I’ve only seen him in person once at the Ch Ch AP while he was seen slipping into town through a side door. As he came through the door he gave me a look that said ” Step aside little man, here comes the awesome Jerry Brownlee? ”
It was at the time that he handed out hundreds of thousands of dollars to his rich mates in Fendalton for damned lumps in their manicured lawns while New Brighton people were still shitting and pissing in communal port a loo’s. ( And still are I think.)
The reality, of course, is that he’s a useless wanker. And an expensive one to boot. And speaking of booting, lets boot his vast arse out at this election.
Having said that, I refuse to discount the ‘novel’ c-19 virus as not being person made.
Without the proof, which is yet to be discovered, it’s as valid to say that it may have been lab built as saying it wasn’t.
A suspiciously half cooked yet deadly virus popping up out of a wet market in Wuhan is entirely suspicious for its conveniently launched location to say nothing of the timing. I mean, everyone hates the Chinese, right? Our western media tells us we must while we consume Chinese made stuff and things but it’s always China’s fault, now pass the plastics?
And we don’t need much in the way of media savvy to see just how awful the super powers who’s arse’s we kiss daily are in their murderous disregard for human life much less the sanctity of plants, animals and the very air and soil every living thing’s reliant upon. Monsanto anyone? Heard of?
There are 400 Americans with a combined wealth of 2.9 trillion dollars.
Do you really think they’re going to expire with the hoi polloi they’ve exploited when they need not?
Global heating will rewrite human history. The desperation’s from habitat loss will wipe out all culture and history under collapsing natural systems which will lead to starvation and disease unlike anything seen in history.
You really think that 400 people with 2.9 trillion dollars are going to sit on their hands as they hum Kum be ya while the curtain falls on all living things?
I would be confident to say no. Nope, they’re not.
They already drop bombs and sundry other ordinance on women and children while starving others and generally exterminating threats both real and imaginary by using any means necessary and usually for a dollar. They have aircraft that defy imagination for their power and might, they have ships and submarines that can flatten the biggest cities in the world. They have drones that watch and wait and when necessary can pick off an individual within a crowd with a single bullet or rocket.
It should be uncomfortably clear to anyone who can tie shoelaces that the single biggest threat to all life on this biosphere we know of as Earth is us. We ‘consumers’.
We’ve been sold tickets to mass extinctions and we’re lining up to see the show.
So? What’s the most efficient method of culling us consumers? Sterilisation by stealth? That’d take too long and time’s run out.
War? War would fuck infrastructure and then there’s the reality of retaliation. Besides, what would be the point of war when we’re already doomed by our own hand.
The only way to dramatically reduce our biosphere’s human risk factor is biologically in my opinion.
A virus would be the most likely weapon of choice because it’d be easily spread and if one were to build in a delay function? I.e. Once infected the virus’s latency period was months instead of weeks or days which would allow the virus to spread as a pandemic to every corner of the planet. ( Are there corners on a sphere? )
If I was a trillionaire where would I go while the Masses die of a virus?
Down into a bunker? Would one not get dug up and given a stern talking to?
Out to sea in a large, ocean going boat?
Pirates anyone? Heard of?
We can get to the safest place known to science and it’s only 100 km from anywhere on earth.
We trillionaire can go into space. Front row seats for the show.
I went outside the other morning at about 4.00 am for a pee on the lawn with my dog and as I stood there looking into the stunning star lit sky over rural AO/NZ I saw a satellite going flat out from south to north into the rising sun.
Go outside on a clear morning or evening just before the sun rises and see how many you can count? And that’s just the orbiting satellites. There are many others in a geostationary orbit that will be all but invisible.
The only way that my theory can be dispelled is to place a ban on all manned space flight.
Absurd, right? Yes, is a bit, I agree.
So we’re fucked then…
This visualisation of the ultra-rich’s wealth blew my mind
https://boingboing.net/2020/04/29/this-visualization-of-the-ultr.html
‘How is this possible?’ Researchers grapple with Covid-19’s mysterious mechanism
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/how-is-this-possible-researchers-grapple-with-covid-19s-mysterious-mechanism
Mars rover Perseverance launches NASA mission to Red Planet
https://boingboing.net/2020/07/30/mars-rover-perseverance-launch.html
Virgin Galactic offers peek inside new space plane for tourists
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jul/29/virgin-galactic-offers-peek-inside-new-space-plane-for-tourists
Are Rocket Lab’s enterprises in our national interest?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018751670/are-rocket-lab-s-enterprises-in-our-national-interest
‘It is about our survival’: UAE’s Mars mission prepares for launch
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/09/it-is-about-our-survival-uaes-mars-mission-prepares-for-launch
‘The big show’: US poised to return to human spaceflight with historic launch
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/may/26/spacex-nasa-human-space-launch
Die off by way of viruses, whether planned or inadvertent, makes little difference except how you prepare to prevent it happening.
Human to human spread of a virus mainly depends on how it is transmitted.
Viruses spread by contact or aerosol can be spread within human communities but the spread is accelerated by travel.
In the sailing ship era it took 6 weeks to get from Europe to NZ.
Now a virus can circumnavigate the globe in a day.
So cutting out or cutting back on air travel is a first consideration to provide community protection.
Within communities travel is a potential killer as well.
So locking borders and controlling travel should be tools well explored and made ready for urgent implementation at all times while monitoring the best apolitical sources of alert internationally.
The USA/UK have shown they are not adverse to using nuclear to wipe out local populations and several of their politicians have called for such and the USA has obliterated two cities with nuclear devices as well as poisoned inhabited lands elsewhere with radiation from bombs or depleted uranium weapons, biocides which damage DNA and Monsato’s suite of environmental poisons that damage life and render ground water toxic, while disinformation helps the shareholder oilgarchs to grow richer.
Retaliation has been a deterrent to these sociopathic maniacs from pressing the nuclear button, but wait the US is developing smaller yield nuclear devices and you may well ask what for.
But an infectious virus is a potential weapon but not the only one.
Genetic damage and sterilisation have been tried successfully with the use of faux vaccines. Gates in his Africa campaign has shown the potential of clandestine sterilisation. Areas within the USA have been irradiated and research set up to find out more about how that effects humans.
The hope inferred by so called space programs suggesting colonisation of other celestial bodies is all utter crap and offered to create confusion.
I won’t go into why leaving this Earth to live elsewhere is not an option except we have evolved on this planet over 3 billion odd years.
Apart from not surviving anywhere else no matter what support systems are envisaged, the resources and energy needed is not available and will never be available.
The handful of predatory parasitic banksters and oligarchs who rule the planet, by any morality deserve to die.
The rest of us need to urgently impose reproductive restraints on all humans and reorganise our “economies” to use much much less resources and a fraction of the energy we consume, let wilderness expand, decrease our herds of domestic animals and let the sea recuperation start.
We won’t stop climate warming but need to stop adding to it immediately.
Our nuclear moment is a gross understatement.
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