Contracting out Foreign Affairs to New Zealand First is an embarrassing copout

1. Your are right especially

   “New Zealand has moved from being part of the solution – pressure on Israel – to being part of the problem itself – international silence which means complicity with Israel’s criminal behaviour.’

   Even Neoliberal Aunty Helen managed to tell Israel off when they stole our NZ passports, (now immigration just give NZ passports away for free to all, like our water… )

   However not sure why, the lefties now seem ti think it’s all NZ Firsts fault?

   Are the lefties ok with Labour and Greens too lazy to stand up and join the woke in NZ First bashing?

   Weird that Labour are the new messiah for the lefties, Greens incompetent and NZ First which is led by one of the most long standing Maori politicians of NZ, who also has managed to do things his own way, is blamed for everything going wrong with COL’s policies?

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     Peters is the Minister of Foreign Affairs; condemning Isreali actions, and recognising the plight of Palastinians, would be part of his job. Yet, he has remained silent – even on the rare occasion that MFAT spokespeople say anything:

     https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/05/jacinda-ardern-condemns-devastating-one-sided-loss-of-life-in-jerusalem.html

   • Labour and the Greens, both pretty dam useless do not hold the foreign affairs portfolio. Do you understand that. This is what Minto’s column is about!

2. Did you notice what happened to Jeremy Corbyn? Jacinda and Winston are both probably trying to aviod going the same way.
   Though there is undoubtably protest and criticism world wide of Israel’s occupation and annexation of Palestine it is not government policy anywhere that I have seen. Everyone in power is too anxious to avoid US sanctions.
   D J S

   • It’s fairly commonplace in Europe, even the UK Tories – who supported our 2016 action.

3. John our environmental group Citizens Environmental Advocacy Centre (CEAC writes a letter to Jacinda every week for two years now.

   And has not ever had one personal reply from her, or her staff, so although we respect your morality; – here yet again we don’t truly believe that jacinda is actually getting ours or yours letters .
   As it appears that someone in their office is screening her from any exposure to our letters and issues;

   So good luck to you old friend; we recall that you once lived in our town of Napier around the time of the ‘South African ruby tour’ in 1981 then as we were on the opposite sides during that issue.

   But keep it up, as citizens voices are needed.

   • He lived in Auckland from 1977. His family home in Napier.

4. Labour and the Greens should never have agreed to give NZ First the portfolios of Foreign Affairs and Defence.
   If only, before the election, there could be open discussions about NZ’s role in the world…including the Palestinian cause.

5. Let’s hope our government continues to ignore Minto and his cohorts’ racist and twisted diatribes against Israel which labour to present the victim as the opressor. I applaud them. Jews always had the right to settle Judea/Samaria under Balfour, the Mandate, San Remo, the League of Nations and the UN. There is no ‘occupation’. Israel has an inviolate right to security and self defence and an inviolate right to exist as a Jewish state in the ancient Jewish homeland of which they are the indigenous people. Refusal to recognise this is what has led to the Palestinians’ demise and their sidelining by the rest of the world, including fellow Arabs. Trump didn’t even consult them over recognising Jerusalem as Israel’s eternal capital. They are irrelevant by their own making.

   • Gaby what are you on.
     You have so many things wrong in your post that to dignify it with more accurate information is probably a waste of time.
     Invasion then occupation – does that ring a bell.
     Look at the map changes since 1967 alone .
     Palestinians who are the natives of that land were not a party to the treacherous Balfour Zionist jack up.
     Israel always the aggressor with many shills spouting misinformation and propaganda.
     What are you Gaby

     • You badly need truth therapy. Palestinians are Arabs. They come from Arabia. Jews were in Palestine 4,000 years before them – Jews=Judea. Ring a bell? The only ‘invasions’ – 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, etc have been carried out by Arabs, up to 7 countries at a time trying to destroy Israel. (they are not and never were ‘Palestinians’ until it became convenient to call themselves such after 1967). Your false narrative may appeal to the uninformed, but no matter how hard you, Minto etc try, you can’t change history.

       • Gaby your “history” is based on twisted words and false assumptions.
         Typical Zionist mindwash.
         The natives of Palestine have been there much longer than any Jewish religion.
         And how do you try to justify the Yiddish jews claiming Palestine as a homeland.
         Anyway what sort of twisted reasoning gives a right to invade because you think and ancestor may have lived there.

6. So what is going on.
   Is the COL govt so wary of the local and internationals Zionist lobbyists for Israel threatening NZ if moves are made to oppose the outrageous land theft, that they back away.

   The “antisemitic” label was used with massive MSM backup to depose Jeremy Corban who is more Jewish than most in Israel. The power of MSM is a Zionist weapon and MSM across the Western world is controlled by Zionists using fear, intimidation and misinformation.

   When did we last hear a news bulletin on RNZ about Israeli murder of Palestinians, Israeli violence towards Palestinian farmers and families, stealing of land for more illegal settlements or even UN passing censure on Israel’s illegal actions.

   Or is it that NZ First have shown their colours with becoming mates with Israel. Both Peters and Mark have grovelled to the Israeli PM and IDF. Money is not a barrier when it comes to Israel buying favours and both Winston and Ron love the stuff as would filling NZF coffers with laundered money go a long way to influencing NZF.

   Also Mossad have the best dirt digging network in the world and may well be holding NZF and the govt members to ransom.

   No matter whether it is any or all of the above or something more devious, NZ is being held to ransom.
   The elections may need to be got out of the way before Labour can deal with this but you can bet your boots that negotiations, threats and promises are already being heard behind closed doors on Israeli / Palestinian matters, NZ elections, personal dirt files and US interference, at a NZ govt level as well as personal “meetings and briefings” with Israeli pimps and our parliamentary members and some of their staff.

   Israel is not a clean player and the history of corruption and power play with Zionist interests is well planned, well resources, international, underground as well as blatantly inhuman.
   Israeli narcissism and psychopathy has reached new heights and at a level of blatancy not seen since WWII.

   NZ should not back away and be a part of the problem.

   Israeli sentiments held by any foreign affairs staff need to be weeded out. It is not in NZ’s interests to have moles shaping our foreign relations from within or close to the public service.

   Israel is a rogue state not an ally nor friend.

   • We back america that is what it is about we daren’t do otherwise. When the US no longer needs Israel to keep the hordes at bay it will be a different story.

7. Jesus Christ guys, you must now know what nz first is? Surely…?
   It’s the body bag over the dead carcass of AO/NZ. When is the fag shrivelled penny going to drop its pin stripes?
   winnie? Right? Is the very embodiment of all that is evil. He’s the one running a Machiavellian defence for the now old scum who fucked us all. I mean c’mon? Surely you know this? I can’t believe people discuss winston peters as though he’s relevant. The fucker should be in prison, not as a well paid politician who people fawn over.
   Example:
   ” We’re bad guys and we fucked you on the deal. Nya nya.”
   So we say ” Lets get in a winston in then we’ll see about that Mr. ”
   The Winston goes in all a yap and bluster and conveniently finds nothing wrong nor amiss. Funny that.
   We say : ” Well, we got the winston in and he found nothing so everything’s all right then” .
   The fuck it is morons.

   • Great stuff country boy well he is relevant only because he holds the foreign affairs portfolio!
     We never ever in this country have debates of any sort about our foreign policy as you know.

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