The first wave of propaganda from the Death Cult Capitalists didn’t work too well on the NZ public…
Death Cult Capitalists: ‘Hey slaves, time to get out to work now, my gold card air point perks are at risk, you must work to keep my privilege and wealth intact”
Slaves: “But Master, it’s the eye of the storm”
Death Cult Capitalists: “SHUT UP AND WORK”
…so they turned to some middle class academics to try and mask the neoliberal self-interest of the Hooton and Hosking mouthpieces with the ‘Plan B’ Herd Immunity lunacy.
Sadly the Herd Immunity theory has been destroyed by the WHO who have questioned whether you can gain long term immunity from having it…
Coronavirus: ‘No evidence’ yet recovering from COVID-19 makes you immune – WHO
The World Health Organization (WHO) said on Saturday that there was currently “no evidence” that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second coronavirus infection.
In a scientific brief, the United Nations agency warned governments against issuing “immunity passports” or “risk-free certificates” to people who have been infected as their accuracy could not be guaranteed.
The practice could actually increase the risks of continued spread as people who have recovered may ignore advice about taking standard precautions against the virus, it said.
“Some governments have suggested that the detection of antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could serve as the basis for an ‘immunity passport’ or ‘risk-free certificate’ that would enable individuals to travel or to return to work assuming that they are protected against re-infection,” the WHO said.
“There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection,” it said.
…just pause and consider that. The Death Cult Capitalists were willing to kill vast swathes of the population for a ‘Herd Immunity’ argument that isn’t even true.
That’s a blood sacrifice to the Free Market Gods on the Altar of Milton Friedman that would make your average South American Drug Cartel blush.
National have been desperate for a new hard right attack blog since Whaleoil imploded, and they’ve found it…
…the Death Cult Capitalists new narrative is to point to the amazing job this Government did saving lives by claiming the lack of deaths proves they over-reacted!
That’s right, because Jacinda’s leadership stopped the carnage we are seeing in America and the UK, that means she over-reacted!!!
The need for the Death Cult Capitalists to regain the narrative no matter the reality is driven out of desperation and fear. They are seeing NZers walk away from Free Market mantra as they huddle under the shelter the State has built.
The need to get back a normal that can now no longer exist is understandable but utterly tone deaf to the reality of fear that is gripping people’s real lived experiences.
People will look to the State to protect them, they don’t want Death Cult Capitalism doctrine.
The reason Bridges faced such a backlash online is because even his own supporters felt the weight of this threat and wanted recognition for their self-sacrifice.
The electorate accepts that necessary and painful change is coming, Death Cult Capitalists however believe free market business as usual must be returned and the denigration of Jacinda and Labour are a must win fight to stop the people from enslaving themselves to a bigger State.
It is a fight that will see National use any argument no matter its legitimacy.
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This is more BS because 3 months ago I’m sure Jerry was saying the opposite. Corona has exposed how feeble political ideology is. They don’t really know how to appeal to an informed electorate.
YEP THIS VIRUS IS VERY AGGRESSIVE.
We are playing with a ‘monster’ that cannot be defeated quickly or easily.
It can re-infect anyone after a “recovery”.
https://time.com/5810454/coronavirus-immunity-reinfection/
Be caucious Jacinda wake up Andrew Bloomfield. tell him to test and re-test again and again as WHO told you to do 16th March remember?
QUOTE WHO “We have a simple message for all countries: test, test, test”.
https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19—16-march-2020
I’m not a microbiologist, but it seems logical to me that even if COVID-19 antibodies can stop the virus making me sick, that doesn’t necessarily mean they will stop me from carrying it in my system and passing it on to others. Antibodies prevent the virus population getting high enough in the body to push it out of homeostasis, but there’s no guarantee they have killed every single virus cell. Because of this the whole concept of “herd immunity” is questionable at best.
You realise that vaccines rely on herd immunity right? A vaccine only gives your body’s immune system the keys to attack a virus…The human immune system still has to do the work!
Am I the only one who thinks that the Nats seem as surprised by these anti-elimination “movements” as anyone else? Especially; otherwise apolitical National voters, who may be greedy and selfish, but not actively insane.
I suspect that that it’s our very success in the elimination mission that is making us a target to those in other (supposedly “United” countries) that we are making look bad in comparison. People who can afford to hire Blacklands and their ilk to carry out a PR hit.
The lockdown was necessary to give the government a break to organize their plan of attack going forward. I am not sure if they have taken the time wisely but time will tell.
What I do know is the economy is in free fall and some off the benefits of a successful economy may be lost. The drug Keytruda which was going to financed for all is now not happening .Will those that died early be counted in as collateral damage from the virus. There will be other cut backs across the board which will doubtless causes lives to be shortened and then there will be the suicides linked to those that lose a business or job and their world collapses around them.
It is unfair to label those that put forward another approach as greedy or part of a so called death cult. Those that do need to take off their blinkers and hatred for those that dare to speak up . We have lost so much let us not add free speech to the list
TS
Comorbidity is a medical term used in place of the military; “collateral damage”, though not strictly equivalent (net excess mortality due to comorbidities of COVID19, would possibly be closest as a search phrase). Though medical researchers are generally a bit busy at the moment to get into that argument.
Keytruda wouldn’t be my go-to example (unless I had skin-cancer, then it might seem more pressing). As that is more of a (very expensive) quality of life improvement for a lucky few, rather than much of a life-saver. Something like 25% 5-year survival rate compared to 20% with conventional chemo. But I have seen family go through chemo (& radio & surgery) and wouldn’t wish that on anyone! But seems more of a positive indicator for future research (if researchers weren’t otherwise occupied at the moment), than a miracle cure in itself.
I didn’t find anywhere to post this link the other day. But there’s probably more chance of dying due to; accidental poisoning (though some may not be so accidental), and fear of infection for seeking treatment, than being denied fancy new semi-experimental patented biologic medicines:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(20)30095-5/fulltext
“The reason Bridges faced such a backlash online is because even his own supporters felt the weight of this threat and wanted recognition for their self-sacrifice.”
No Bomber, its because Soyman could not fight his way out of a paper bag! Most of these polies couldn’t because they grew up in a nanny state! Hence we have a current appointed by Winston leader who only knows how to run & hide thinking she can outwit nature! Well good luck… but don’t take the rest of us down with you.
The rest of us will face it head on…and come what may…That’s life.
RM, so when it’s getting dark and starting to snow in midwinter you will likewise refuse to; “run and hide”, inside a heated shelter? Because surely that is also; “outwitting nature”.
Will you instead face the coming freeze naked (because clothes are likewise a tool to outwit nature), and alone, come what may? That’s not life, that is death!
Feel free to climb out of your trench, Ross. If you get your head blown off by Covid-19, no crying to ‘Nanny State’ about it, okay? Okay.
“Collateral damage is a phrase that will probably become more familiar before this is over. Economic shutdowns have been presented by some as a trade-off between “money versus lives.” But what is becoming increasingly apparent is they, in fact, pit “lives versus lives.”
Yep!
So, the loot-and-pollute-and-exploit club can’t wait to get back to looting and polluting and exploiting on a grand scale. and are still all too willing to sacrifice their progeny’s future (and everybody else’s progeny’s future) on the altar of selfishness and greed.
No surprise there, really. Looting and polluting and exploiting seems to be all they know, and they certainly couldn’t give a fuck about the future, or what kind of world they pass on to those that follow.
Since the globalised industrial economy is predicated on gobbling up resources at an ever faster rate and generating waste at an ever faster rate, it naturally follows that there is no greater threat to humanity (and the natural world that makes life-as-we–know-it possible) than the globalised industrial economy.
And, in the medium term (there cannot be any long term under the business-as-usual regimen) there is no greater threat to business-as-usual than business-as-usual.
We are now just waiting for:
1. collapse of the Ponzi globalised financial system
2. collapse of the globalised energy system
3. collapse of the environment (which never needed to be globalised because it has always been global as well as local).
If we (industrial humans) carry on as we have been (or even worse, attempt to resurrect pre-Covid-19 arrangements) then ants, scorpions, cockroaches, jellyfish and bacteria etcetera shall inherit the Earth quite soon (decades rather than centuries)..
For those who missed it first time round:
‘The Fatal Road To 4 Degrees Celsius’
https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/
The Corporate greedies have an uncontrolable urge to get back to their unethical exploitive business practices quick smart, before the economic system is changed to their detriment! Bring it on.
New Zealand vastly over reacted against Covid 19 and the dreadful consequences will appear some time later.
You want the science behind this? Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLVxx_lBLU&fbclid=IwAR1gF-KegsVRKHoAAEn7dytCGzr0JYsFWIls-MVBHJKmk3J6Ht4k708VDmo
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