THIS is really, really, really, really bad. Like REALLY bad for NZ



So I know we are all busy with the Pandemic, but THIS is really, really, really, really bad.

Like REALLY bad for NZ…

Waikato Mongrel Mob Kingdom leader’s relatives join rival Comancheros gang

An outspoken voice in the gang community in recent years, Waikato Mongrel Mob Kingdom leader Sonny Fatupaito was one of the first to recognise the threat of new gangs arriving from Australia and even mooted an alliance with rival Black Power. However, the Weekend Herald can reveal two of Fatupaito’s closest relatives defected from the Mob to expand the Comancheros into the Waikato.

…TDB has been pointing out for sometime that the 501 dynamics have radically changed the domestic gang culture in NZ.

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White NZ thinks the domestic gangs are the worst. The hilarious reality of course is that compared to the violence of Australian Gang Culture, our Domestic Gangs are fairly pleasant.

Patching over existing gang leaders to expand their growing hold over the entire drug scene of NZ is going to raise the threat of a full blown gang war and without a specific strategy things are only going to get a lot nastier.

National’s argument is that a policy of constant harassment coupled with ‘offramps’ that help family and associates leave the Gang is the perfect combination of carrot and stick.


Here are 3 reasons why Strike Force Raptor won’t work:

1 – Constant harassment only generates radicalisation, not a desire to leave: A policy of constant harassment through every possible government agency from alcohol licensing to building permits to noise control won’t do anything other than create a sense of righteous grievance amongst those associates and family. Giving poor people on the fringes of society a righteous grievance against the state is not an ‘offramp’ for helping people leave gangs, it’s a motorway towards radicalisation. You really want to radicalise Gangs? Really?

2 – Strike Force Raptor is corrupt in Australia: As Newsroom painfully points out, the Australian example of Strike Force Raptor has come under sustained criticism that it is corrupt, abuses civil rights and has overstepped its authority time and time and time again. I’m not sure adopting a corrupt Australian model of Policing from one of the most corrupt Police Forces in the developed world is a solution to the soaring gang tensions here.  As someone who has had to fight the NZ Police when they abused my civil rights, I am fully cognitive of the utter lack of checks and balances to Police power in this country,  and see a vast ratcheting up of Police powers as an exacerbating problem, not a solution.

3 – It doesn’t focus on the actual problem – the 501s: The point I was making in the interview with Mark Mitchell stands, the generator of this recruitment drive by the domestics is the sudden importation of 1200 501s from Australia who are prepared to use a level of criminal violence and sophistication well in excess of what the domestic gang landscape will cause. There’s no point in harassing the Mongrel Mob or Black Power or even the Headhunters if the 501s are the reason they are bulking up to protect their turf. A myopic focus on the 501s is what is required here, not some broad stroke get tough on crime rhetoric that lacks nuance because it’s aimed at triggering voters using lazy stereotypes.

Imagine the following scenario using National’s ‘Strike force Raptor’ tactics.

There are lots of unregistered dogs in a gang suburb. Strike Force Raptor as part of their constant harassment campaign move in on a Saturday morning with the armed ninja cops to round up all the dogs and take them away to the pound. Very quickly neighbours see the huge army of Strike Force Raptor members required to pull something like this off successfully descending upon their neighbourhood. People come out to the streets and start yelling and screaming at the Police as they attempt to remove dogs. A bottle gets thrown, do the ninja cops fire back? Livestream social media is now recording the event, more people are turning up, the crowds are getting angrier. One of the dogs turns on a Strike Force Raptor Officer, the police shoot the dog, the crowd goes into rage and bottles start to fly. In one house an 11 year old boy has his pet rottweiler ‘Adolf’ torn from him and while he sobs on the garden lawn, the Strike Force Raptor Officer hands him a ‘You can be Gang Free if you want to’ pamphlet as part of their program to provide ‘offramps’. The 11 year old boy looks at the Strike Force Raptor Officer with naked hatred in his eyes and promises they’ll get theirs one day.

The above scenario is exactly the kind of harassment policy National are promising and it’s hard to envisage a more counter productive cock up of a social policy.

This isn’t political leadership by National, this is political opportunism by playing to our worst angels of fear and anger.

So what is to be done?

Quiet diplomacy is urgently required. We face an event unlike any other in NZs criminal history, never before have we had a situation where 1300 violent criminals have been dropped off into the country with zero ability to contain them.

This unique event demands a unique solution.

A secret round table meeting between Government agencies and Domestic gangs where the following deal is hammered out:

1 – NO METH! There has to be a serious undertaking by the domestic gangs to no longer deal in meth in return, Government amends cannabis legislation to ensure the domestic gangs can grow and sell cannabis legitimately.  Domestic Gangs will need to forgo illegal meth money for legal cannabis money.

2 – Domestic gangs turn all evidence about the the 501s over to the Police and aid in entrapping any, in return Police will organise an enormous one off event whereby the move against the entire 501 infrastructure and take them down in one move.

3 – Build special prisons just for the 501s with a focus on long sentences and heavy rehabilitation.

If we are not going to seriously tackle the reason why the gang wars are brewing then we won’t actually stop it from erupting.



  1. September 1938 the UK Prime Minister went cap in hand to visted Hitler and came back with a promise of peace . From memory that did not work out to well

  2. I know ! Lets all go to Portugal !?
    Here we go! Follow me…?
    The Portuguese decriminalised all drugs and in so doing sorted out the drug ‘problem’ over night.
    We, on the other hand, can never, nor ever will do that because it’s too simple and too effective.
    Our dipshit politicians must gather in a huddle of committees and wail and moan and wring their little hands at the thought of it meanwhile, outside in the streets people are pimping their daughters to get a hit.
    The gangs are coming here because there’s a dollar to be made from our retarded attitude to recreational drugs. If all drugs, per se, were freely available to anyone then why would gangsters bother?
    I think there’s a darker reason why reality refuses to court common sense in Godsownmate’s.
    It’s simply because the gang banger issue is divisive. They, the gangs, like us, are being used to enact an agenda.
    While we bicker over a relatively minor problem THEY inch ever closer to our AO/NZ as we fight amongst ourselves over fuck all in the scheme of things.
    A UBI plus decriminalised drugs = the gangs would be fucked. What then would they do? Deal in black market ice cream ? Ride the Harley into the deep, dark woods to pick up that buried stash of chocolate coated Crispies? The irony is that sugar is most likely killing more people globally than meth, smack and coke combined anyway.
    Watch this?
    That Sugar Film.
    Oh? BTW? Seen ‘The Wire’?
    Is truly fabulous.
    The Wire is an American crime drama television series created and primarily written by author and former police reporter David Simon.
    Especially where senior cop creates a safe zone for dealers and users and it lowers crime as a result.
    He got fucked over, of course, but the message is clear. Set in Baltimore, Maryland.

  3. “– Strike Force Raptor is corrupt in Australia: As Newsroom painfully points out, the Australian example of Strike Force Raptor has come under sustained criticism that it is corrupt, abuses civil rights and has overstepped its authority time and time and time again”

    Sounds like Simon Bridges to a tee.
    The one thing I have learnt so far during this pandemic and it was highlighted through Bridges attempt to disassemble Ashley Bloomfield today is that Bridges is not a politicians arsehole. He is an attack attorney, nothing more, nothing less. He is vile and I thought I’d never hear myself say these words but National do not deserve a man of his ilk. His questioning of Bloomfield had to be seen to be believed. In fact they weren’t questions, they were statements. When you start with “you don’t even know Mr Bloomfield”, how can you be creditable in way shape or form. Fortunately Bloomfield is a class act and brushed Bridges off with ease and was able to do so because Bridges was out of his medical depth. National well may be in with a chance come election day, but not with this vile man at the helm. Stick to prosecuting attorney Mr Bridges, that’s when your at your vile best.

  4. These new gangs are like this current virus.
    If you don’t go full on hard and stamp them out before they get a stronghold in the populace, then it will more and more difficult to eradicate, eventually becoming disastrous.

    • Trying to stamp out gangs is impossible. It would be easier to make a society, that gives people more options out of poverty than Gang life.

    • Deal with poverty and the “market” driven unemployment left to private for profit hands, and the need to join gangs will be diminished.
      Recruits in their teenage years must have choices that are viable rather than becoming supported by a gang.

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