The Daily Blog Open Mic – Wednesday – 4th March 2020

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  1. Can we keep Malcolm Evans cartoons where they are mixed with the other thought pieces? It seems that they would fit in the Setting the Agenda listing. At present they show and then disappear to be gathered together at the bottom of the Home column. Cartoonists are so clever and sharp – you have Evans and that is really good so can we have his in two places, one appearing in date order under Setting the Agenda and also together at Home?

  2. An important WHO statistic is medical expenditure plus the longevity of the populace. This is embedded in the bureaucratic system, which at the same time analyses which age group consumes the biggest share of the health dollar. The world is being encouraged to intervene in keeping people alive as if that was the most vital wellbeing matter to attend to. Meanwhile in NZ our care for the wellbeing of children plummets.

    We can’t cope with the costs of looking after people who have lost their marbles and reverted to being children, albeit strong ones. There is no rationality in having people receiving benefits for a third of their lives while being encouraged to be as free from responsibility as children, while the actual children and their parents are deliberately impoverished, and regularly censured and neglected.

    The coronavirus is just another virus of the many plus bacteria which swirl around us. The government makes heroic efforts to keep those over 80 alive – they have a warranty to be assisted to live till they drop.
    Recycling and repairs beyond the normal and practical. Nothing can be done though. No thought must be applied to the problem. The conforming masses bulk up to prevent any moves on independence for those who want to be different and choose to die to their own time and tune.

    Now already stretched health authorities are being stressed with more needy people in the old-age group.
    Already they can’t provide eye services which are so important, and treating diabetes in a timely fashion, coping with obesity and its causes, etc etc.
    People in rest homes could be in dire circumstances if the coronavirus hits and they don’t get enough back up from district health boards, says a retirement village chief executive.
    People over 80 have an almost 15 percent fatality rate from the disease according to some measures…
    the scariest things about a possible outbreak was losing staff.
    “A lot of our people are at hospital level care which means they need two people to assist them in their daily living at all times. So we would have people in very dire circumstances if we didn’t have staff,” [a residential care chief executive said].

    …Aged Care Association chief executive Simon Wallace said the centres also needed a back-up plan for what to do if there were too many sick people to care for.
    “Coronavirus would be on a level that we have neither the staff or the infrastructure to deal with,” he said….

    The aged care sector needed a national-level plan, Wallace said.

    …The aged residential care sector as a mainstream part of health, we provide a valuable service, we have 35,000 beds and we need to be regarded as equal partners with the District Health Boards. That’s not the way we’ve been treated through this.”…
    [A retirement care resident] 85, said the virus was on the mind of many people there because they knew they were in the dangerous age group.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/410869/rest-home-worries-over-coronavirus-they-are-ignoring-us

    Two things stand out –
    One is that old people are not preparing themselves for death as a natural close to life. Their life must be continued on for as long as possible at whatever cost to the country and younger people’s foregone treatment.

    The second is that the country needs to make a national plan in two stages:
    a. Now to meet the needs of the rest homes, which we can see are being run as businesses that are unsustainable as profit-making ventures because for certain, they will need government help to maintain their services to the level that their clients have been encouraged to expect. These will be disappointed, but as much as can be done to prevent stark tragedy should be planned for and implemented.
    b. Almost immediately there should be notice given that there will be a referendum with the election this year that explains the demographic problem, the cost and the impracticality of the increasing old age vision. Then it would ask for opinions on how to deal with the dying process; to allow it to proceed in a way that offers the least suffering using euthanasia for ill patients at a time of their own choice, with legally set steps, (if this has not already been agreed), to give all old people the right to register to enter a planned demise scheme, and for younger people to apply for consideration and receive help with their problems, and also for a plan to eliminate all but the most basic medication after certain stages have been reached; a mixture of age usually 80, debility, loss of eyesight, mobility etc.
    This following the precept of –
    Jack London
    The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time.
    and Christiaan Barnard
    The prime goal is to alleviate suffering, and not to prolong life. And if your treatment does not alleviate suffering, but only prolongs life, that treatment should be stopped.
    https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/christiaan_barnard_179504?src=t_prolong

    • That WHO report.
      https://www.who.int/healthsystems/topics/financing/healthreport/28UCefficiency.pdf
      Improving health system eciency as a means of moving towards universal coverage 2010

      Is the UK NHS system of allocating 5 minutes per patient per problem an example of the sort of cost
      efficiency for universal coverage that the report refers to? My friend, a retired midwife, says that the problem is that all the top people in health are just bean counters (my words) and the working medical managers have limited input.

  3. I am happy to read what someone else puts up! Also MTB seeing its his site. But pop things in that people might find interesting. Lately my latest idea is to replace Beehive pollies with mountain pollies (which appear more notable).!

    Now, researchers Alex Taylor and Amalia Bastos from the University of Auckland have once again observed parrots beating the odds when it comes to intelligence.
    Working with kea (Nestor notabilis) at Christchurch’s Willowbank Wildlife Reserve, their research has revealed this species’ ability to understand probability. Apart from humans and great apes, kea are the only animals to demonstrate this.

    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2003/S00036/polly-knows-probability-this-parrot-can-predict-the-chances-of-something-happening.htm
    It seems that humans, great apes and kea are similar in some ways. I have seen humans that could be great apes already hanging around bars similar to Bellamys. I wonder if we all have a predilection for alcohol. I wonder if kea would lose their acuity if regular partakers of disimbobulating liquor. It couldn’t be tried as an experiment though, as animal caretakers would see it as detrimental to the birds’ health, unlike the predatory way that alcohol is introduced to the young encouraging them to addiction.

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