‪It’s funny how those claiming the Wuhan virus was being overblown and criticism was racist just get quieter by the day now don’t they ‬


This hasn’t aged well has it?

There is a belief in Twitter land that any criticism of the Wuhan virus is racist and unnecessary fear mongering, which seems bewilderingly micro aggression policing-esk when we have a macro threat event confronting us in real time.

This isn’t an identity politics issue, it is a public health emergency and a major economic danger and writing those concerns off as racist is eye-rollingly naive.

Let’s be clear, ANYONE attacking Asian NZers over this virus are ignorant frightened arseholes and should be excluded from the discussion for crimes against reason, but, that fear IS legitimate because China, being the largest authoritarian Communist regime on the planet, is NOT yet being honest or upfront about the true infection rate OR the true death rate of this virus.

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China is an enormous abuser of human rights, ask the Uyghurs, the political dissidents they harvest body organs from or those they use mass surveillance against and we simply can’t trust anything they say.

This is a real problem because as Bill Gates pointed out in his Netflix Doco, Chinese wet markets are the perfect vector for novel viruses to cross over to humans because of their crushing cheek to jowel over population and flexible hygiene standards.

As humans deplete the environment and strip it bare, these virus become more likely to cross over to us…

Coronavirus came from bats or possibly pangolins amid ‘acceleration’ of new zoonotic infections

Although the phenomenon of zoonosis has been happening among human beings and the animals they encounter for an untold thousands of years, the modern world has made zoonotic epidemics more likely to occur, experts say. It’s a matter of numbers and geography. More people are coming into contact with more animals in more places, including habitats rarely or never visited by human beings — such as bat caves deep within a forest.

“We’re absolutely seeing an acceleration in the emergence of zoonotic disease,” said Jonathan Epstein, an epidemiologist at EcoHealth Alliance, a nonprofit that studies emerging infectious diseases.

Changes in land use — agriculture, mining, etc. — play a huge role in creating opportunities for viral jumps. So do wild animal markets. Authorities in China cracked down on sales of wild animals after SARS was linked to masked palm civets, a cat-like mammal. China later backed off some of the restrictions. Wild animal markets remain common in much of the world.

Once a virus jumps into humans, population density becomes a factor in turning what might potentially be a small eruption of illnesses into an epidemic. A crowded city such as Wuhan, which has a population on the same order of magnitude as New York or London, creates conditions for person-to-person transmission.

…so this is a future issue that climate change is compounding now, and what is getting missed in the churn of events is how this is rapidly becoming a major economic problem.

The global supply chains are far more vulnerable than anyone else thought and the quarantine will trigger a cascade of economic damage globally which is a double problem for China as they require at least 6.5% growth to keep the population happy with the Government.

If anything, we are underpaying the significance of this event, not overplaying it.




  1. Unfortunately there are still fuckwits around attacking open discussion on the Wuhan coronavirus …and arguing the Wuhan virus is no worse the usual flu

    They would like to make open discussion into another ‘conspiracy theory’…which they duly put down as well as the messengers

    ( what is the name for these sort of people?)

  2. Being globally rich, powerful and known to be punitive, seems to be working for the Chinese! VIP treatment everywhere.

    Free breakfasts, takeaways and alcohol in the UK
    ‘Some idiot moaned about breakfast’: life in coronavirus quarantine

    The Government will charter an Air New Zealand aircraft to assist Kiwis leaving coronavirus hit Wuhan, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.

    (Didn’t notice any worry of safety of overseas nationals when the pro democracy Hong Kong riots happened).

    Meanwhile in China sounds like arresting the messenger was the first priority. And the poor guy is now dead.

    (Can anybody imagine the police in NZ, UK or most other countries arresting a doctor who warns other doctors about a deadly virus to help keep them safe?)


  3. Economic fallout is not the same as thinking we’re about to replay the Walking Dead.
    In 1990 after the Tiananmen massacre, economic growth dropped to 3.5.
    Life went on.
    We still got all the crap we needed from the warehouse. Free Trade thanks to our premature droping of tariffs in both the 80’s and 90’s.
    If were worried about the economy we should be looking just as much to America.
    Should Bernie win the nomination, let alone the Presidency, my bet is the economy will (temporarily) crash before he even sits down at the White House, The Market Gods are more than capable of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

  4. W.H.O – Coronavirus 2019: http://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

    WHO Daily updates: http://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports/

    The general consensus seems to be that it is not yet a pandemic, but could become one. BBC discusses that here
    If we start seeing sustained community-level outbreaks in multiple parts of the world, then it will be a pandemic.

    How likely is that?
    It is still unclear how severe the disease is, and how far it will spread.
    (That from 3rd Feb)

    Al Jazeera reports that the death toll in China is now 811 and includes a Japanese and an American.

  5. The global supply chains are far more vulnerable than anyone else thought and the quarantine will trigger a cascade of economic damage globally

    Hopefully, that would encourage Kiwis to realise the value and need for a more internally self-sufficient, sustainable economy. We have so many of the basics that we need to survive as a nation, and to care for everyone here, if we could just redirect our energy and motivation to do so. We have water, we have land, we have an amazing range of foods that we grow and produce here in Aotearoa. We have wool for clothing, we have forests for housing, we have many options for energy resources. And we have our own Kiwi community spirit, as well as ingenuity and the ability to adapt.

    What we seem to lack is the will to work together to care for all Kiwis first and foremost, to ensure our own longterm sustainability as a nation, regardless of what happens in the rest of the world.

  6. Dr Li Wenliang

    China’s health authorities and the public have offered their condolences over the death of the doctor, whom police tried to silence in the early days of the outbreak. The father-of-one was warned off after telling an alumni group about a mystery illness at his hospital.

    The death of doctor Li Wenliang at the epicentre of a coronavirus outbreak has prompted tributes and anger throughout China. Li worked in a hospital in Wuhan, central China, and was among eight people reprimanded in the early days of the outbreak by public security officers for “spreading rumours”. He died on Friday morning after contracting the previously unknown coronavirus.
    Li, 34, was an ophthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital. On December 30, 2019, he wrote a post to a closed group of medical school classmates on the WeChat social media site. In the post called “Seven cases of severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars) from the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market”, he warned about an outbreak of undiagnosed pneumonia at his hospital.

    A screenshot of his post was leaked and circulated online on December 31, a day before the local health authority made an official announcement saying that 27 cases of viral pneumonia of unknown cause had been detected.

    On January 1, Wuhan police said they were punishing eight people for “spreading rumours”. It was later revealed that all eight were medical staff.
    Wuhan police said on January 1 that eight internet users were punished for spreading rumours.
    Li’s comments “were not factual and broke the law” and his behaviour had “severely disturbed public order”, according to the police document Li was required to sign after being summoned and warned. The police document was later uploaded to Li’s Weibo account.
    The mood then shifted as Zeng Guang, chief epidemiologist at the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, said in a national television broadcast on January 29 that the eight people punished by the police should be held in “high regard”.
    Full story here

    By Zhuang Pinghui in Beijing, Pub. 7th Feb 2020.
    South China Morning Post

  7. 2019 80,000 died in the USA with flue.

    Human rights?

    China incarcerates at under one sixth of the rate found in the USA so lets talks sense.

    So far China has appeared to have responded well in controlling the flu contagion

  8. For a forensic analysis of how China’s authoritarian political system needlessly turned the coronavirus outbreak from a localised problem into devastating nationwide then global epidemic read the following:


    It’s written by a Chinese journalist from Wuhan under a pseudonym. I hope he’s covered his tracks well, because he’ll definitely end up as a “voluntary” live organ donor if the CCP ever catches up with him.

    • simonm have you researched the connections of this Hong Kong based “media” outlet.
      The article is extremely screwed to hearsay and negative comment without covering the mechanics of China’s extreme vigilance towards containing the disease which is out of all proportion to the petty criticism offered.

      Quips like ““voluntary” live organ donor ” without any foundation add little to understanding what is really taking place.
      The China Media Project has ties to several US/UK based anti China propaganda organisations.
      David Bandurski is co-director of the China Media Project. He is not Chinese.

  9. Only a couple of weeks ago, the World Health Organisation was praising China for its handling of the situation!
    It seems their praise was somewhat premature.
    By the way, my Chinese wife reckons that the SARS outbreak was caused by the southern Chinese fondness for eating possum, although it was possibly more a civet cat than a possum.

  10. https://www.dcclothesline.com/2020/02/04/bats-gene-editing-and-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/
    “However, while many of these theories are clearly speculative, there is also verifiable evidence regarding the recent interest of one controversial U.S. government agency in novel coronaviruses, specifically those transmitted from bats to humans. That agency, the Pentagon’s Defense Advanced Research Project Agency (DARPA), began spending millions on such research in 2018 and some of those Pentagon-funded studies were conducted at known U.S. military bioweapons labs bordering China and resulted in the discovery of dozens of new coronavirus strains as recently as last April. Furthermore, the ties of the Pentagon’s main biodefense lab to a virology institute in Wuhan, China — where the current outbreak is believed to have begun — have been unreported in English language media thus far.
    While it remains entirely unknown as to what caused the outbreak, the details of DARPA’s and the Pentagon’s recent experimentation are clearly in the public interest, especially considering that the very companies recently chosen to develop a vaccine to combat the coronavirus outbreak are themselves strategic allies of DARPA. Not only that, but these DARPA-backed companies are developing controversial DNA and mRNA vaccines for this particular coronavirus strain, a category of vaccine that has never previously been approved for human use in the United States. ” https://www.dcclothesline.com/2020/02/04/bats-gene-editing-and-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

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