The Daily Blog Open Mic – Monday – 11th November 2019


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  1. The next leaky building – incorrect & fraudulent mesh and concrete structures…

    Concrete safety investigator ‘surprised nobody had been killed’

    From environmental point of view our infatuation with concrete…

    “The cement industry is one of the two largest producers of carbon dioxide (CO2), creating up to 8% of worldwide man-made emissions of this gas, of which 50% is from the chemical process and 40% from burning fuel.”

    “Concrete causes damage to the most fertile layer of the earth, the topsoil. Concrete is used to create hard surfaces which contribute to surface runoff that may cause soil erosion, water pollution and flooding.”

    • I think that the affection for concrete happened after the prolonged absence by union of the Boilermakers? from the Wellington building that was planned to be the BNZ. They were hoist of their own petard. No doubt there were conditions of work problems but they did not find a way to leverage out of the employers all that they wanted and it sat for three years.

      Here is a report from stuff by Karl du Fresne from 2014 that tells it like it was. du Fresne is a died in the wool rightie so there is probably a lean-to there, but facts are facts, and this gives the background seen from the eyes of those in business, the leaders in large projects. Not a happy position to be in for a country that should have had an efficient and effective arrangement between workers and their reasonable demands, and business wanting to advance the economy with cost-effective projects. After this we sort of got our feet stuck in concrete, and have sunk to the bottom of the pool!

  2. This from No Right Turn.

    Monday, November 11, 2019

    The astroturf party

    National has finally rolled out its “BlueGreen” astroturf party, fronted by an array of former nats and people who were dumped by the Greens for not being Green enough. Its initial pitch is described by Stuff as “very business-friendly”, and its priorities are what you’d expect: conservation, predator-free funding, a “war on weeds”. But what does it have to say about climate change, the biggest environmental problem facing the country and the planet? Nothing useful:
    “We will work with rather than against our farmers and industry.

    “We are not prophets of doom. We are an optimistic party.”

    He said New Zealand should “lead where we can” on climate change but not “suffer serious economic consequences as a result of that”.

    He supported agriculture going into the Emissions Trading Scheme at some point in the future, saying farmers had to be protected.

    So this is basicly a climate inaction party – just like their backers. They’re about watering the garden while the planet burns.

    National hopes that this sort of greenwash will win enough votes from the Greens to either provide them with a new coalition hand puppet to replace David Seymour, or (their preferred option) drive both parties below the 5% threshold, removing the environmental voice from Parliament and restoring FPP by default. But either would require Green voters to like the policies on offer. And to be honest, I don’t think this is going to fool anyone.

    • Ticks all the Me-Too farmers boxes. Sounds like a Santa Claus party who is going to deliver on all the letters from hopeful recipients of the rural persuasion, who can’t be persuaded to stand up and be adult men and face climate change, and the change to clever farming practices hand-in-hand with nature which to them sounds like skipping across the paddocks like green fairies. A ‘war on weeds’ – what with Roundup or the new-name killer, when weeds like red clover, etc. are drought defyers. Listen to Country Calendar. Instead ‘Pour on more urea and super Trev’, (and that includes their female counterparts).

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