BREAKING – Vision NZ finally stands a chance of winning 5%

18
1471

I recently reviewed Vision NZs chances at the polls and thought they had their target off and didn’t stand much chance due to a confused policy platform and ill considered social media posts.

That changed this morning.

I noted that if NZ First took up a populist idea like ‘only citizens can vote’ they would send their campaign into hyper space, it looks like Vision has beaten them to it.

Announced this morning, Vision NZ have called for only citizens of NZ to be able to vote. Most NZers will be surprised that permanent residents can vote as it makes us just one of 4 other democracies that allow this, that means our political system is deeply swayed by residents who aren’t citizens.

This policy, if presented well, has the possibility of becoming an enormous protest vote. NZ First should be very concerned.

TDB Recommends NewzEngine.com

ONLY CITIZENS SHOULD VOTE

Vision NZ says it is a mockery that people who have been in the county five minutes can decide the fate of our nation. New Zealand is one of the few countries in the world that gives non-citizens the right to vote. 

Vision NZ will put a stop to this madness. “We will make it a bottomline in any coalition negotiations,” Jevan Goulter says. “Come the 2023 election only New Zealand citizens will have the right to vote.”

It is clear that the political class don’t take the issue of citizenship seriously. ‘

“Under Labour and National, people have been able to effectively buy their way into the country. Look at Kim Dotcom for example. Or Simon Bridges’ Chinese mates,” Goulter says. 

“Why should these people get the same rights as someone born and raised here?”

Vision NZ believes that it is time for New Zealanders to take back control of their democracy. “Labour and National have sold us out to pander to migrant communities because that’s where the money and votes are,” Goulter says.

Vision NZ will put the votes – and the money – back into the hands of real New Zealanders

…this is going to get very loud, very quick and very messy.

18 COMMENTS

  1. Great policy!!! Tell me again why someone who has been in NZ for 5 minutes gets to vote!! It is an idiotic policy!

  2. I know where my protest vote is going this time… I can’t believe that this party has hands-down the single sanest policy of any party… unbelievable…

  3. The reason why “people who have only been in the country five minutes” are able to vote is simple. Because the colonial regime always held that British immigrants have a God-given right to decide the destiny of this country from the day they stepped off the boat. The assumption was that anyone with a British accent was not only competent to determine our fate, but was even better qualified than we ourselves to undertake that task.
    Take your mind back fifty years, if you can, and you will realize that the mere suggestion that a British subject should not enjoy the right to vote would have been considered subversive if not downright treasonable.
    The problem now is that immigrants are not only British. They are also Indian, Chinese and of a host of other non-European nationalities.
    So a policy which was instituted for racial reasons is now opposed for racist reasons.
    I don’t participate in colonialist elections, and don’t really understand why anyone else, citizen, permanent resident, or migrant worker, would want to.
    Te rangatiratanga does not discriminate between tangata whenua and tauiwi. All are entitled, welcome and encouraged to participate in the political processes of te motu.
    Why would we want to exclude anyone? What do we have to fear?
    Having said that, those who support the regime fear much and exclude many. Vision New Zealand’s policy may well find traction with 5% of those who choose to vote in parliamentary elections. So be it.

    • Most of the other British colonial countries obviously got rid of it, so why is NZ still being an idiot – maybe their Rogernomics ideology keeping it going.

    • I think you’ve misused the word Tauiwi, which to me is an attitudinal word that could be used to describe one’s relationship for example to an organ that one has received by donation.

  4. I certainly can’t argue with this policy. However I’m cautious … VisionNZ > Destiny Church > the Tamakis …??

  5. A statement that is wrong and misleading from the first sentence can’t be taken seriously. People who have been here 5 minutes don’t get to vote. For most people, getting residency takes considerable time and a great deal of commitment to NZ. My wife has contributed more to this country in the decade she has been here than many people born here will do in their lifetime.
    The difference between a resident and a citizen is just a piece of paper.

    • Hi there the quote that was made about been here for 5min an can vote.
      Meaning we been here from the begining an You have Come from far away from aotearoa shore
      We work Hard as You world in this Day an age but my first maternal Great grandparents worked for us before they even New us.
      There worked just as Hard too.
      The govt runs our nation ask them why our generation is not doing well because the took my first teacher away from his home land an took our way of life values coz they want to be managers instead of tauiwi

      • BS, greedy well educated Kiwis go offshore and earn more, have thus little patriotism, they are willing mercenaries, blame your government and low productivity local people for the malaise, not the immigrants!

  6. It is not as straight forward as you think, an international comparison:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote

    There is at least anecdotal evidence that immigrants, i.e. permanent residents, in New Zealand, same as in other countries, do not vote at the same rate as citizens do:
    https://democracyjournal.org/magazine/28/expanding-citizenship-immigrants-and-the-vote/

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/spsr.12136

    http://socialreport.msd.govt.nz/civil-and-political-rights/voter-turnout.html

    “People in the Asian ethnic group were the least likely to vote (35.3 percent did not vote) compared with those who identified as Māori (26.8 percent), Pacific peoples (17.6 percent) or European (16.8 percent). However, this is because of the large migrant population from Asia, rather than the ethnicity itself. Almost 60 percent of recent migrants did not vote in the 2011 General Election; this includes people who said they were not eligible because of visa status. Long-term migrants reported very similar voting behaviour as those born in New Zealand, with 18.2 percent and 16.3 percent respectively not voting in the 2011 General Election.”

    Once a permanent resident feels firmly established, her or his voting behaviour may become more similar to that of citizens, as they identify with the country they live in, and want to participate.

    It is stupid to think that permanent residents should not vote. Many permanent residents choose to live here for good reasons, but they keep their foreign citizenship also for good reasons, as in some countries you can only have one citizenship, so becoming a NZer would mean cutting yourself off from family and friends back home, as visiting them may become more difficult when having a NZ passport.

    Also would some permanent residents very much identify with NZ, but they may have reservations to becoming a ‘subject’ of the ‘Crown’ or the Constitutional Monarchy we still have. There may be many other good reasons, why some immigrants do not take up citizenship, and hence it would be counter productive to shut them out.

    Those that do not speak good English and do not integrate well, they will have troubles one way or another, and will most likely not vote anyway, as they feel a difficulty to adapt and become part of this society. The more educated immigrants may be valuable voters, as they may lift the IQ of voters, so contribute value decisions, while others may rather vote for dangling carrots.

    So ‘Vision NZ’ may think they picked up and idea, but I think they lack vision for the fact they want to shut many people living here permanently out of voting.

    Perhaps they want to lower the IQ and hope to get more nationalistic sentiment voters.

    We know how well that has gone in other places. If you do not want certain people, do not let them immigrate, and thus change the Immigration Act, I suggest, but do not change the law later and discriminate against those who came in good faith.

  7. Under the above you gave Vision NZ one percent of the vote, why the sudden change?

    Excluding permanent residents may actually lower the average voter IQ, have you thought about that? Criteria many immigrants have to met as good quality immigrants and residents are such which many born and bred NZers would never fulfill, just a thought.

  8. This was new to me. I must give serious consideration apropos in my next vote.

    But what is their platform otherwise?

  9. Jeeze wayne i know our average politician rates lower than a real estate agent, but how fkd would a country be that elected gods right hand man or his missus to make our laws??

Comments are closed.