There have been some attempts by other men to explain why Duncan Garner and Mike Hosking hate Greta Thunberg. The NZ Herald even rolled out their travel writer??? to counter Hosking!
That’ll show him!
Let’s just be honest as to why Garner, Hosking and lots of other white older men are attacking Greta.
This isn’t an argument about science, because the science is settled. Human pollution is super heating the planet at an unprecedented speed and it is far more dangerous and enormous than first thought…
One billion at risk: How climate change is transforming our oceans and mountains
Rising, warming, acidifying oceans and melting ice could be affecting more than a billion people by as soon as 2050, warns a dire, sweeping new climate report.
The UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) found how our oceans had effectively stopped the planet from over-heating by sucking up more than 90 per cent of the excess heat in the climate system.
…it’s also accelerating…
Climate change: Impacts ‘accelerating’ as leaders gather for UN talks
The signs and impacts of global warming are speeding up, the latest science on climate change, published ahead of key UN talks in New York, says.
The data, compiled by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), says the five-year period from 2014 to 2019 is the warmest on record.
Sea-level rise has accelerated significantly over the same period, as CO2 emissions have hit new highs.
The WMO says carbon-cutting efforts have to be intensified immediately.
…and the far more terrifying truth is that things are actually far worse than this pessimistic outlook because the very conservative IPCC don’t include into their calculations methane release from the oceans or from permafrost thaw in the Arctic. Once those feedback loops kick in, things will be far more destructive.
So why are Garner and Hosking such anti science freaks? Why are they gleefully attacking a 16 year old with Aspergers? Because the truth is that the climate crisis stopped being about science a long time ago, this is a culture war now.
Those who have benefitted from the privileges of big polluting capitalism refuse to agree that the environmentalists have been right all along, even if it means cooking themselves and the planet.
Climate deniers and middle class minimisers are still the battlefront. Radical solutions are rapidly becoming the only solution.
The radical economic, cultural and political change required to adapt to this climate crisis utterly undermines the very privilege that the Garners and Hoskings of this world have enjoyed.
They will gnash their teeth and spit their hate because it is their position of power that will be diminished by the changes required, Mike Hosking accusing anyone else of a fantastic “sense of self-entitlement” has all the irony of Donald Trump judging a modesty competition.
We must avoid their voices dominating the debate by countering it with a clear focus on the science and the truth that science tells us. We can not allow the greatest threat to us as a species be determined by those with the largest platforms projecting their own insecurities, we simply don’t have the luxury for that.
This debate must be about the science, about the science, about the science.
We can’t allow it to be defined by the fragile egos of older white men who refuse to acknowledge that truth.
I’m guessing that there is going to be a massive increase of the middle class folks wanting to adopt kids with Aspergers!Its the next new fad!
Maybe thats why the nutters in the Anti Vaxxers movement (middle class again) like this new populist trend for Aspergers kids.
Hey Denny could you dial back the denigration a bit? Kids with aspergers are not your plaything to make whatever point your trying to make
In simple words, STFU
Nicely put DennyPaoa.
Those middle class folks will find it’s very difficult parenting a child with Aspergers. I was diagnosed at 54 a couple of years ago, but Mum had to put up with my weirdness without knowing why back in the day. I came to terms with my ‘different’ brain years ago and wouldn’t be me without it. But I hope Greta doesn’t turn into me – it’s not easy being an Aspie. She has plenty of support and understanding
You are awesome. Thank you.
“The science is settled” – “it’s about the science, the science, the science”. So where is all this “science”. I have seen charts and graphs that show what the “future will look like”, I am getting lectured to by people with no more of a scientific or mathematical background than I have. SHOW ME SOME SCIENCE. I did find this, before you dismiss it out of hand, I suggest you give it a read. I am not an old dinosaur, I am looking at where this is all leading – I care deeply about my grandchildren, I would never do anything that I believed would hurt them.https://www.globalresearch.ca/global-warming-for-the-two-cultures/5690130
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch
Please don’t post links to propagandist fake science sites, it does nothing for your credibility, or our edification.
You still haven’t provided any science?
Google is your friend.Google, Journal articles on research into AGW, climate change. Fill your boots.
Hi, Ann
All these international scientific organisations have websites that you can visit. Most have English translation pages too. Hope this helps.
Academia Chilena de Ciencias, Chile
Academia das Ciencias de Lisboa, Portugal
Academia de Ciencias de la República Dominicana
Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela
Academia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de Guatemala
Academia Mexicana de Ciencias,Mexico
Academia Nacional de Ciencias de Bolivia
Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru
Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Académie des Sciences, France
Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada
Academy of Athens
Academy of Science of Mozambique
Academy of Science of South Africa
Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy of Sciences of Moldova
Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic
Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran
Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt
Academy of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy
Africa Centre for Climate and Earth Systems Science
African Academy of Sciences
Albanian Academy of Sciences
Amazon Environmental Research Institute
American Anthropological Association
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)
American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society
American Fisheries Society
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Institute of Physics
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
American Quaternary Association
American Society for Microbiology
American Society of Agronomy
American Society of Civil Engineers
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Statistical Association
Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
Australian Academy of Science
Australian Bureau of Meteorology
Australian Coral Reef Society
Australian Institute of Marine Science
Australian Institute of Physics
Australian Marine Sciences Association
Australian Medical Association
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Bangladesh Academy of Sciences
Botanical Society of America
Brazilian Academy of Sciences
British Antarctic Survey
Bulgarian Academy of Sciences
California Academy of Sciences
Cameroon Academy of Sciences
Canadian Association of Physicists
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Geophysical Union
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Society of Soil Science
Canadian Society of Zoologists
Caribbean Academy of Sciences views
Center for International Forestry Research
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences
Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)
Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research
Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences
Crop Science Society of America
Cuban Academy of Sciences
Delegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and Letters
Ecological Society of America
Ecological Society of Australia
Environmental Protection Agency
European Academy of Sciences and Arts
European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
European Science Foundation
Federation of American Scientists
French Academy of Sciences
Geological Society of America
Geological Society of Australia
Geological Society of London
Georgian Academy of Sciences
German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Indian National Science Academy
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management
Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology
InterAcademy Council
International Alliance of Research Universities
International Arctic Science Committee
International Association for Great Lakes Research
International Council for Science
International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences
International Research Institute for Climate and Society
International Union for Quaternary Research
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
International Union of Pure and Applied Physics
Islamic World Academy of Sciences
Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities
Kenya National Academy of Sciences
Korean Academy of Science and Technology
Kosovo Academy of Sciences and Arts
l’Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Latin American Academy of Sciences
Latvian Academy of Sciences
Lithuanian Academy of Sciences
Madagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and Sciences
Mauritius Academy of Science and Technology
Montenegrin Academy of Sciences and Arts
National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina
National Academy of Sciences of Armenia
National Academy of Sciences of the Kyrgyz Republic
National Academy of Sciences, Sri Lanka
National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
National Association of Geoscience Teachers
National Association of State Foresters
National Center for Atmospheric Research
National Council of Engineers Australia
National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New Zealand
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Research Council
National Science Foundation
Natural England
Natural Environment Research Council, UK
Natural Science Collections Alliance
Network of African Science Academies
New York Academy of Sciences
Nicaraguan Academy of Sciences
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters
Oklahoma Climatological Survey
Organization of Biological Field Stations
Pakistan Academy of Sciences
Palestine Academy for Science and Technology
Pew Center on Global Climate Change
Polish Academy of Sciences
Romanian Academy
Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium
Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain
Royal Astronomical Society, UK
Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters
Royal Irish Academy
Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research
Royal Scientific Society of Jordan
Royal Society of Canada
Royal Society of Chemistry, UK
Royal Society of the United Kingdom
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
Russian Academy of Sciences
Science and Technology, Australia
Science Council of Japan
Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research
Scientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial Physics
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Slovak Academy of Sciences
Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Society for Ecological Restoration International
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
Society of American Foresters
Society of Biology (UK)
Society of Systematic Biologists
Soil Science Society of America
Sudan Academy of Sciences
Sudanese National Academy of Science
Tanzania Academy of Sciences
The Wildlife Society (international)
Turkish Academy of Sciences
Uganda National Academy of Sciences
Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities
United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Woods Hole Research Center
World Association of Zoos and Aquariums
World Federation of Public Health Associations
World Forestry Congress
World Health Organization
World Meteorological Organization
Zambia Academy of Sciences
Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences
Well done this woman !
I seriously get the impression the reason why Hosking so hates Greta is because she is a female with an opinion. Hosking(and Garner)do not like females who are strong minded and have opinions.
Hosking and Garner want weak submissive females eg hence the reason Hosking is married to one.
But then also the problem with Greta is she doesn’t have a penis and isn’t a member of the NZ National Party or is a Young Nat in the NZ National Party. And so Hosking shows he hates females. If Greta had a penis and was a member of the NZ National Party Hosking would be eagerly extolling ‘male-Greta’s’ virtues and telling the world we need more ‘male’Greta’s’.
John Key would be annoyed with Greta because she has a fine head of hair(and a ponytail)and we all know John Key has a ponytail fetish.
I haven’t bothered with reading any Mike Hosking articles or listening to the useless ramblings of Duncan Garner because quite honestly they just don’t merit being listened to. They are just both showing how much they are into the NZ National Party and it proves to me how limited in intelligence they truly are.
Ok so you have an issue with males I’m thinking. Both Key and Hosking are married so you must be wondering how their wives ever found them attractive enough to bear their children. Duncan Garner has had a marriage problems which of course makes him a female abuser in your opinion. Your criticism is nonsense of course. Don’t like them by all means. But depict them as anti female is pathetic drivel and demeaning to them. Luckily for you they wouldn’t be interested in your comments.
PS I don’t think much of them either but don’t believe they deserve your criticism.
Of course they are misogynist, and ageist. I put it down to resentment at all the 16 year old girls who were intelligent enough to keep well
clear of them at high school.Doesn’t explain all the right wing women attacking Greta, rather than her message, though!
Right, so you think Hosking and Garner would really hate Margaret Thatcher, another “strong minded” woman with “opinions”. Right?
I have to hand it to Chris Lynch at Newstalk ZB he’s about the only host that at least attempts to provide balance.
Hoskings and Garner going after Greta because they know who their audience is .
Cretins with Bob Jones’s hormonal imbalance, in Hosking’s case I think. No explanation otherwise for someone who grew up in the Welfare State. Implies conscience. Fools leading fools. Thankfully we’re not Amerika. Though the born-agains in amongst us.
A couple of decades from now, when the economic damage from climate disruption is obvious even to the most selfish and venal deniers, our kids will be instituting lawsuits against those who chose to lie about the science. By then, of course, it’ll be a bit late to avoid the damage – but f I were a science denier such as Hosking or Garner, I’d be thinking about deleting my digital footprint.
A couple of decades from now, when the economic damage is so great that even the most selfish and venal of deniers will be forced to accept reality, our kids will be in no mood to forgive those who worked hard to cover the truth or to lie about the science.
By then, or course, much of the damage will be done.
But if I was Mikey or Duncan, I’d be looking to hide my digital footprint.
Greta is terrible ,I change the channel when she comes on, I don.t need her agro on a subject so important
The only thing unclear about climate change science is why nearly everyone who is a vocal skeptic of it is an older white male
Hey that’s being unfair to older white female climate deniers.
Hosking and Garner remind me of loud mouthed strutting, male, playground bullies.
They fear (yes, bullies are always cowards), feisty females (especially teenage ones) with opinions that differ from theirs.
They do what ignorant, arrogant thugs always do. Attack the player not the issue. Ask any rugby player.
The History of the Climate Change Hoax Outlined by Climatologist Dr. Tim Ball:
http://socioecohistory.x10host.com/2019/09/28/greta-thunberg-climate-change-hoax-dr-tim-ball-interview/
The history of dirty Koch type Billionare and filthy corporate polluters ….. funding the climate change denial fraud…
feeding hoax hucksters and their hill billy science ……
” Climate Deniers Exposed: Top Scientist Got Funding from ExxonMobil, Koch Brothers, Big Coal”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E11v7DY4UM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruk3y9UBZWA
https://theweek.com/articles/860632/terrifying-legacy-david-koch
I’m not calling you an idiot Simon Temple …. and your certainly not useful ,,, except maybe as an example, of a hoax hoax warning.
Do you think creepy millionaires and billionaires buying themselves ” life-boats / bolt holes ” in NZ … is a hoax ???
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/feb/15/why-silicon-valley-billionaires-are-prepping-for-the-apocalypse-in-new-zealand
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