MEDIA WATCH: The real reason Garner & Hosking hate Greta and why new climate crisis report shows they are part of the problem


There have been some attempts by other men to explain why Duncan Garner and Mike Hosking hate Greta Thunberg. The NZ Herald even rolled out their travel writer??? to counter Hosking!

That’ll show him!

Let’s just be honest as to why Garner, Hosking and lots of other white older men are attacking Greta.

This isn’t an argument about science, because the science is settled. Human pollution is super heating the planet at an unprecedented speed and it is far more dangerous and enormous than first thought…

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The UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) found how our oceans had effectively stopped the planet from over-heating by sucking up more than 90 per cent of the excess heat in the climate system.

…it’s also accelerating…

Climate change: Impacts ‘accelerating’ as leaders gather for UN talks

The signs and impacts of global warming are speeding up, the latest science on climate change, published ahead of key UN talks in New York, says.

The data, compiled by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), says the five-year period from 2014 to 2019 is the warmest on record.

Sea-level rise has accelerated significantly over the same period, as CO2 emissions have hit new highs.

The WMO says carbon-cutting efforts have to be intensified immediately.

…and the far more terrifying truth is that things are actually far worse than this pessimistic outlook because the very conservative IPCC don’t include into their calculations methane release from the oceans or from permafrost thaw in the Arctic. Once those feedback loops kick in, things will be far more destructive.

So why are Garner and Hosking such anti science freaks? Why are they gleefully attacking a 16 year old with Aspergers? Because the truth is that the climate crisis stopped being about science a long time ago, this is a culture war now.

Those who have benefitted from the privileges of big polluting capitalism refuse to agree that the environmentalists have been right all along, even if it means cooking themselves and the planet.

Climate deniers and middle class minimisers are still the battlefront. Radical solutions are rapidly becoming the only solution.

The radical economic, cultural and political change required to adapt to this climate crisis utterly undermines the very privilege that the Garners and Hoskings of this world have enjoyed.

They will gnash their teeth and spit their hate because it is their position of power that will be diminished by the changes required, Mike Hosking accusing anyone else of a fantastic “sense of self-entitlement” has all the irony of Donald Trump judging a modesty competition.

We must avoid their voices dominating the debate by countering it with a clear focus on the science and the truth that science tells us. We can not allow the greatest threat to us as a species be determined by those with the largest platforms projecting their own insecurities, we simply don’t have the luxury for that.

This debate must be about the science, about the science, about the science.

We can’t allow it to be defined by the fragile egos of older white men who refuse to acknowledge that truth.


  1. I’m guessing that there is going to be a massive increase of the middle class folks wanting to adopt kids with Aspergers!Its the next new fad!
    Maybe thats why the nutters in the Anti Vaxxers movement (middle class again) like this new populist trend for Aspergers kids.

  2. Those middle class folks will find it’s very difficult parenting a child with Aspergers. I was diagnosed at 54 a couple of years ago, but Mum had to put up with my weirdness without knowing why back in the day. I came to terms with my ‘different’ brain years ago and wouldn’t be me without it. But I hope Greta doesn’t turn into me – it’s not easy being an Aspie. She has plenty of support and understanding

  3. “The science is settled” – “it’s about the science, the science, the science”. So where is all this “science”. I have seen charts and graphs that show what the “future will look like”, I am getting lectured to by people with no more of a scientific or mathematical background than I have. SHOW ME SOME SCIENCE. I did find this, before you dismiss it out of hand, I suggest you give it a read. I am not an old dinosaur, I am looking at where this is all leading – I care deeply about my grandchildren, I would never do anything that I believed would hurt them.

    • Please don’t post links to propagandist fake science sites, it does nothing for your credibility, or our edification.

    • Hi, Ann
      All these international scientific organisations have websites that you can visit. Most have English translation pages too. Hope this helps.
      Academia Chilena de Ciencias, Chile
      Academia das Ciencias de Lisboa, Portugal
      Academia de Ciencias de la República Dominicana
      Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela
      Academia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de Guatemala
      Academia Mexicana de Ciencias,Mexico
      Academia Nacional de Ciencias de Bolivia
      Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru
      Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
      Académie des Sciences, France
      Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada
      Academy of Athens
      Academy of Science of Mozambique
      Academy of Science of South Africa
      Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)
      Academy of Sciences Malaysia
      Academy of Sciences of Moldova
      Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic
      Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran
      Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt
      Academy of the Royal Society of New Zealand
      Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy
      Africa Centre for Climate and Earth Systems Science
      African Academy of Sciences
      Albanian Academy of Sciences
      Amazon Environmental Research Institute
      American Anthropological Association
      American Association for the Advancement of Science
      American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)
      American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
      American Astronomical Society
      American Chemical Society
      American Fisheries Society
      American Geophysical Union
      American Institute of Biological Sciences
      American Institute of Physics
      American Meteorological Society
      American Physical Society
      American Quaternary Association
      American Society for Microbiology
      American Society of Agronomy
      American Society of Civil Engineers
      American Society of Plant Biologists
      American Statistical Association
      Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
      Australian Academy of Science
      Australian Bureau of Meteorology
      Australian Coral Reef Society
      Australian Institute of Marine Science
      Australian Institute of Physics
      Australian Marine Sciences Association
      Australian Medical Association
      Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
      Bangladesh Academy of Sciences
      Botanical Society of America
      Brazilian Academy of Sciences
      British Antarctic Survey
      Bulgarian Academy of Sciences
      California Academy of Sciences
      Cameroon Academy of Sciences
      Canadian Association of Physicists
      Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
      Canadian Geophysical Union
      Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
      Canadian Society of Soil Science
      Canadian Society of Zoologists
      Caribbean Academy of Sciences views
      Center for International Forestry Research
      Chinese Academy of Sciences
      Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences
      Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)
      Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research
      Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences
      Crop Science Society of America
      Cuban Academy of Sciences
      Delegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and Letters
      Ecological Society of America
      Ecological Society of Australia
      Environmental Protection Agency
      European Academy of Sciences and Arts
      European Federation of Geologists
      European Geosciences Union
      European Physical Society
      European Science Foundation
      Federation of American Scientists
      French Academy of Sciences
      Geological Society of America
      Geological Society of Australia
      Geological Society of London
      Georgian Academy of Sciences
      German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina
      Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
      Indian National Science Academy
      Indonesian Academy of Sciences
      Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management
      Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology
      InterAcademy Council
      International Alliance of Research Universities
      International Arctic Science Committee
      International Association for Great Lakes Research
      International Council for Science
      International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences
      International Research Institute for Climate and Society
      International Union for Quaternary Research
      International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
      International Union of Pure and Applied Physics
      Islamic World Academy of Sciences
      Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities
      Kenya National Academy of Sciences
      Korean Academy of Science and Technology
      Kosovo Academy of Sciences and Arts
      l’Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
      Latin American Academy of Sciences
      Latvian Academy of Sciences
      Lithuanian Academy of Sciences
      Madagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and Sciences
      Mauritius Academy of Science and Technology
      Montenegrin Academy of Sciences and Arts
      National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina
      National Academy of Sciences of Armenia
      National Academy of Sciences of the Kyrgyz Republic
      National Academy of Sciences, Sri Lanka
      National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
      National Aeronautics and Space Administration
      National Association of Geoscience Teachers
      National Association of State Foresters
      National Center for Atmospheric Research
      National Council of Engineers Australia
      National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New Zealand
      National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
      National Research Council
      National Science Foundation
      Natural England
      Natural Environment Research Council, UK
      Natural Science Collections Alliance
      Network of African Science Academies
      New York Academy of Sciences
      Nicaraguan Academy of Sciences
      Nigerian Academy of Sciences
      Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters
      Oklahoma Climatological Survey
      Organization of Biological Field Stations
      Pakistan Academy of Sciences
      Palestine Academy for Science and Technology
      Pew Center on Global Climate Change
      Polish Academy of Sciences
      Romanian Academy
      Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium
      Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain
      Royal Astronomical Society, UK
      Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters
      Royal Irish Academy
      Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
      Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
      Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research
      Royal Scientific Society of Jordan
      Royal Society of Canada
      Royal Society of Chemistry, UK
      Royal Society of the United Kingdom
      Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
      Russian Academy of Sciences
      Science and Technology, Australia
      Science Council of Japan
      Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research
      Scientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial Physics
      Scripps Institution of Oceanography
      Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts
      Slovak Academy of Sciences
      Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts
      Society for Ecological Restoration International
      Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
      Society of American Foresters
      Society of Biology (UK)
      Society of Systematic Biologists
      Soil Science Society of America
      Sudan Academy of Sciences
      Sudanese National Academy of Science
      Tanzania Academy of Sciences
      The Wildlife Society (international)
      Turkish Academy of Sciences
      Uganda National Academy of Sciences
      Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities
      United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
      University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
      Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
      Woods Hole Research Center
      World Association of Zoos and Aquariums
      World Federation of Public Health Associations
      World Forestry Congress
      World Health Organization
      World Meteorological Organization
      Zambia Academy of Sciences
      Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences

  4. I seriously get the impression the reason why Hosking so hates Greta is because she is a female with an opinion. Hosking(and Garner)do not like females who are strong minded and have opinions.
    Hosking and Garner want weak submissive females eg hence the reason Hosking is married to one.
    But then also the problem with Greta is she doesn’t have a penis and isn’t a member of the NZ National Party or is a Young Nat in the NZ National Party. And so Hosking shows he hates females. If Greta had a penis and was a member of the NZ National Party Hosking would be eagerly extolling ‘male-Greta’s’ virtues and telling the world we need more ‘male’Greta’s’.
    John Key would be annoyed with Greta because she has a fine head of hair(and a ponytail)and we all know John Key has a ponytail fetish.
    I haven’t bothered with reading any Mike Hosking articles or listening to the useless ramblings of Duncan Garner because quite honestly they just don’t merit being listened to. They are just both showing how much they are into the NZ National Party and it proves to me how limited in intelligence they truly are.

    • Ok so you have an issue with males I’m thinking. Both Key and Hosking are married so you must be wondering how their wives ever found them attractive enough to bear their children. Duncan Garner has had a marriage problems which of course makes him a female abuser in your opinion. Your criticism is nonsense of course. Don’t like them by all means. But depict them as anti female is pathetic drivel and demeaning to them. Luckily for you they wouldn’t be interested in your comments.
      PS I don’t think much of them either but don’t believe they deserve your criticism.

      • Of course they are misogynist, and ageist. I put it down to resentment at all the 16 year old girls who were intelligent enough to keep well
        clear of them at high school.Doesn’t explain all the right wing women attacking Greta, rather than her message, though!

    • Right, so you think Hosking and Garner would really hate Margaret Thatcher, another “strong minded” woman with “opinions”. Right?

  5. I have to hand it to Chris Lynch at Newstalk ZB he’s about the only host that at least attempts to provide balance.

  6. Cretins with Bob Jones’s hormonal imbalance, in Hosking’s case I think. No explanation otherwise for someone who grew up in the Welfare State. Implies conscience. Fools leading fools. Thankfully we’re not Amerika. Though the born-agains in amongst us.

  7. A couple of decades from now, when the economic damage from climate disruption is obvious even to the most selfish and venal deniers, our kids will be instituting lawsuits against those who chose to lie about the science. By then, of course, it’ll be a bit late to avoid the damage – but f I were a science denier such as Hosking or Garner, I’d be thinking about deleting my digital footprint.

  8. A couple of decades from now, when the economic damage is so great that even the most selfish and venal of deniers will be forced to accept reality, our kids will be in no mood to forgive those who worked hard to cover the truth or to lie about the science.
    By then, or course, much of the damage will be done.
    But if I was Mikey or Duncan, I’d be looking to hide my digital footprint.

  9. Greta is terrible ,I change the channel when she comes on, I don.t need her agro on a subject so important

  10. The only thing unclear about climate change science is why nearly everyone who is a vocal skeptic of it is an older white male

  11. Hosking and Garner remind me of loud mouthed strutting, male, playground bullies.
    They fear (yes, bullies are always cowards), feisty females (especially teenage ones) with opinions that differ from theirs.

    They do what ignorant, arrogant thugs always do. Attack the player not the issue. Ask any rugby player.

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