The Daily Blog Open Mic – Tuesday – 24th September 2019

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8 COMMENTS

  1. Mining company appeal over quashed consent to be heard today

    Very important case, as this clause has been ignored and our increasing environmental degradation is the result. Hence this appeal on an appeal case highlights either an end to natural asset stripping approach in NZ or sadly if the polluters win, then continued asset stripping and environmental degradation and species extinction to follow.

    “Last year the High Court in Wellington ruled the EPA’s Decision Making Committee, which examined and approved the application, had interpreted the law narrowly.

    It found the consent was inconsistent with the precautionary principle, which means when information about the effects of the proposed activity is insufficient, caution and environmental protection must be favoured.”

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/399462/mining-company-appeal-over-quashed-consent-to-be-heard-today

    There are less than 100 Maui dolphins left in the world and this mining will be around their only habitat. Sadly this consent could aid their extinction and serve as a thumbs up for private profits being a contributing factor and deemed more important in law than anything to help the species to survive.

  2. The murder of the 17yo, Dimetrius Pairama in a depraved crime, but lessons need to be learned from Police and Oranga Tamiriki, from this girls death who was under Oranga Tamiriki care when she was murdered.

    The fact that it appeared that the girl answered the door to police during being tortured and that she had opportunities to escape but didn’t, suggest at 17 years old she had nobody to turn to and support her did not see the police or Oranga Tamariki, was anyone she could turn to..

    There needs to be more focus on the police of being able to support young people and Oranga Tamariki putting the children needs and long term support first, and clearly need to build trust and be more supportive to their charges.

    When you hear that they are putting Oranga Tamariki youth in jail because they have nowhere to house them at Oranga Tamariki, then clearly there is not enough resources being spent on the care and support of the children themselves!

  3. Auckland City Mission is facing the highest ever demand for food in its 99-year history and is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival of Christmas.

    Therefore, along with the urgent action being called for by Child Poverty Action Group and ActionStation (in their joint press conference) I suggest the Government should also consider issuing a one off substantial Christmas bonus to all beneficiaries to help counter the impending Christmas surge of demand.

    This will not only help out those struggling but will also add to the Governments narrative when questioned on this growing surge by the media. And of course, when fending off attacks by the opposition re well-being and their failure to deliver. Moreover, it would help build the Government’s credibility for the 20/20 election.

    • There’s a problem with that. The main source of income is not mew profit, or new start up industries. The main profit is just “RENT.” It’s clear that the source of NZ Inc is not profit, it is rent.

      You should always start your model from the end point so let’s be critical of the system. So there’s two hundred thousand kids living in poverty. The true number is probably closer to four hundred thousand solo mothers plus one child and we could even go higher to eight hundred thousand which includes the father. So low balling the problem at two hundred thousand children seems appropriate to clear before moving on. The mothers have already had there children and don’t typically go on to have large 6-12 children families. But the guys are free to be sperm donors at will and the kids may even be brought up by other children which only adds to the problem.

      By the time we measure and double check and triple check, as soon as you take your eyes off of beneficiaries those measures become meaningless. So the money is bullshit. Yes I admit I would increase benefits across the board by a corresponding cut in corporate tax. But the true source of value is in the collective knowledge. I just dislike throwing money at bad or stupid and leaving it all up to beneficiaries to find away out of the poverty traps.

      The disturbing thing is that even the collective knowledge can be privatised as illustrated by Apple. Now that Apple has the “Apple Store” they can actually sell off all there hardware business (if they wanted) because as the proprietor of the Apple Store they can just clip the ticket of any new software package that Cohen’s through the store and they don’t even have to do any reader has, development or marketing because they own the infrastructure. And again this is sold, not for profit, but for rent.

      Now please take this opportunity to correct me if I am wrong, but I think that this is a good theory for what is happening today. Now let’s be honest, apps are not the best way to be interfacing with technology. Smart Phone Applications I claim are 30 years behind desktop software but even Microsoft is not the best. And on the other hand you, Chairman, make another mistake when you insist on whole sale benefit increases with out a corresponding increases in productivity and thus> tax revenue. Although your premiss of raising benefits is correct. And again benefits is not a source of profit, it is a source of rent.

      So we have this absurdly narrow productive core of 20th century workers and capitalists and basically a large majority made up of a whole bunch of minorities from the vulnerable in society to the 1% who just exploit the productive core. So I don’t think that you will get a corresponding increase in benefits until you can properly define a corresponding increase in production.

      And in New Zealand the greatest proponent of monopoly bashing and anti rent trusts is of course Winston Peters. Isn’t it funny that those who claim to want to pull Labour left have no idea what left wing is. The whole point of rent controls is to have an important central government who acknowledges you as a citizen, and that the government pays rent to its population for the privilege of being citizen voters.

      I find a certain sense of delicious irony in the thoughts and ideas of the woke who say we need to be closer with Mother Nature, Y’know that we have to sacrifice our living standards in order for some tragic human that lived a tough life can feel a little bit better which runs exactly against what should be done. The dream here is that both democracy and capitalism are the slaves of the voting public.

  4. The Jacinda Craze of the obsessed MSM is bizarre and sickening. On Monday, 23 September, US time, Trump met with five leaders of five nations, holding ‘bilateral talks’, he only gave Jacinda Dear a ‘pull aside’ for a chat. This is his calendar schedule:
    https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2019/09/president-donald-trumps-schedule-for-monday-september-23-2019/
    https://factba.se/topic/calendar
    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:EL5qVE4y9oAJ:https://factba.se/topic/calendar+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz

    Our MSM behaves as if Jacinda got some top attention and treatment, how out of touch NZ MSM are, it is astonishing. And Jacinda talking about an ‘excellent’ meeting only reveals she is as much a sycophant towards powerful world leaders as John Key the Bankster was.

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