There were frantic phone calls occurring late last night as Government Ministers were suddenly asked, ‘what the hell is happening’ as news quickly spread on social media that the cops had dumped the agreed de-escalation at Ihumātao and were ramping up an attempted forced removal of the protectors.
Police arrived on mass, knocked over leader Pania Newton, kettled the activists, denied blankets and food, started threatening mass arrests and most troubling, were implementing phone blockers to stop the activists telling the rest of NZ what the hell was going on.
It was only after late night social media stepped up and protesters begun flooding to the site that the Police realised they were rapidly losing control of the situation. Police claimed they had suddenly ratcheted this up out of a desire to protect order and safety but it was their fucking presence that was creating the disorder and danger!
This joke statement by Cops had all the delusion of China declaring that they must violently send the Peoples Army into Hong Kong to preserve harmony and prosperity.
There were frantic phone calls from the Labour Party to the Police last night demanding an explanation and despite Jacinda’s clear direction that there was to be no escalation and no building while dialogue between impacted parties occurred, the Police very formally informed those queries that THEY make operational decisions and effectively told everyone asking questions about what they were doing to ‘RESPECT MY AUTHORITY’.
I understand the stunned silence by that response lasted a few seconds before the fucking riot act was read to the Police and made clear to them that such direct refusal to accept the agreed parameters of this dispute amounted to insubordination of the highest level and that if it turns out that there was some political influence to go beyond the agreed de-escalation all hell was going to erupt and careers ended very suddenly.
Political interference like Shane Jones extraordinary statements on Q+A recorded hours earlier but played as the Police attempted to move in. Jones attacked the protestors and attacked their rights to be at Ihumātao and one really has to question if the Police had been privately promised political cover if they attempted to forcibly remove occupiers.
This morning there is still confusion as to how the hell the Police managed to misread the very clear directions Jacinda had given to NOT escalate this.
Simon Lusk is rumoured to be advising NZ First and this reeks of his septic strategy.
Winston Peters had better put a leash on Shane Jones.
One of my Ohumātao activist friends there said the police were blocking phones. And I thought–What! that has to be Special Ops, not local Plods. People should realise the level of technology and multiple special Ops groups operating within the NZ Police–with the same blanket cover and non accountability for operatives as the GCSB and NZSIS.
My first thought last night was; there only two ways this could have happened–Rogue Police Commander blown a fuse, or a political direction from “someone” to act, in league with Police Special Ops.
Pania Newton referred to winding the camp down a bit until numbers were needed, was she surveilled? very slim chance she was not. A vulnerable time for protestors then with aggressive cops. The Cops moved in during darkness, blocked off the access road etc. and repeated the standard phrase as Martyn says.
So there was likely political direction and it should be rooted out who was responsible. It was heartening numbers of support were able to mobilise and more are coming today.
Correction to above, typed too quick… Martyn was referring to Police Response later…I was referring to the cops pushing people around that I saw on live stream last night, and they all had a similar line, not that they spoke much, they did not want to filmed.
The police are there because of Fletchers who sent them in, not the government.
are fletcher paying for them( the police ) or us the tax payer can they come and protect and watch my house and keep it safe they cant even do their jobs in our communities but they can look after corporations stolen land
We are paying for Fletcher’s Private Police Force, it is a ridiculous use of police resources, the only illegal occupants of this land are the police themselves. Why Fletcher is not getting more criticism regarding this is bewildering. They are the mafia in this country, and have been hiding since this began. The sooner the government steps in to buy them out, the better. Kia Kaha SOUL
Matthew: “….the only illegal occupants of this land are the police themselves.”
That’s nonsense, as I’m sure that you’re aware.
“The sooner the government steps in to buy them out, the better.”
I don’t think that you’ve thought that statement through. It’d be a disaster if the government intervened; you’d better hope that it’s wiser than you seem to be.
Louis: “The police are there because of Fletchers who sent them in, not the government.”
Not just Fletcher. Possibly not even Fletcher. It may be the iwi who called in the police. People need to remember that it’s the protesters trespassing, if they go on to privately-owned land.
The government has nothing to do with it. I’ve read the article about the interview with Shane Jones; he said nothing that would lead anyone to conclude that the government is in any way involved with the extra police presence.
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What we need are blocker, blockers. Oh, the irony.
In My Opinion…
What’s being tested here has ZERO to do with matters of conscience, basic human values, kaupapa, land rights etc. This, is about a cadre of liars, traitors and cheats who’ve been swindling AO/NZ for generations. This, is the beginning of their death throws, one would hope.
Like wrightson/pgg, fletcher challenge have their vile roots embedded within AO/NZ’s agriculture. Their silly little urban property speculations and deviant shenanigans here are a nice cash earner for the directors. On the scale of things, however, the IHUMĀTAO issue before us is small change to them. What’s a huge problem for them, though, will be all this very able public scrutiny at a very high level of tech. They’ll be shitting bricks.
What most of you don’t realise is that when that old cadre of Kiwi crooks crash, they’ll take politicians down with them. It will be carnage and when bones start getting broken? It’ll be those dark, deep, dirty, old crooks who will issue the orders. Not, our government.
When winnie and jonesie start making dangerous tactical errors in political judgement? You know, the cat’s about ready to leap from the bag with a hiss and a shower of shit.
It does look like they’re coming apart at the seams. I can only dream.
Kia kaha people, kia kaha.
The pihemana are inciting violence they want the protesters to react
I would say it’s a tactical ploy to observe the response, before future moves to quell/squash the protest.
But yeah I agree with your comment.
Dead right Michelle, the police are trying to find an excuse to go in boots and all.
Dead right Michelle, the police are trying to find an excuse to go in boots and all.
The comments by Shane Jones would have had an influence (political cover/patronage/protection), but it just reflects command and control mentality (what Mark Graham referred to with the NRL referees) of the have class and the pride of their enforcers as reflected in police leadership.
RM could probably explain that better than any of us.
The police can’t get into a protracted siege because allocating police resources don’t generate as much tax payer revenue as busting marijuana growers and issuing traffic fines, or stealing Morsi babies. This was all assumed by protest organisers. The longer it goes on the better.
This is what Police do..and this is why they should not be at Pride in their uniforms..uniforms marked with the blood of activists and people advocating change since forever
Give the wokeness a rest. It’s cool to be a trans cop too Y’know? It’s also cool to be a cop if you’re Māori. It’s just another fucking job just like every other job. So be prepared for a bit of biffo. And try not to freak out.
Right, so all Police are thugs, just like all men are rapists. When will this woke bulls**t end?
MattyGee: “Right, so all Police are thugs, just like all men are rapists. When will this woke bulls**t end?”
Soon, we hope. It’s increasingly tiresome. The police have a job to do: stop protesters trespassing on private land at Ihumatao, and remove them if they do.
Police may well get a bit physical; that tends to happen if they’re called upon to oust people who are in an area illegally.
Enough with the holier-than-thou stuff from the protesters: they know the score.
NZ First needs votes they cant use immigration now due to the chch terrorism so they are appealing to those red neckers. I read the shit shane jones said and he has no mandate in his area he got into parliament of winstones back so who cares what shit comes out of his mouth.
Shane Jones is a motor mouth who would do better sticking to watching his Porn Movies. Fortunately NZ First is a spent force, so hopefully good riddance for next election.
Maama: “Fortunately NZ First is a spent force, so hopefully good riddance for next election.”
Haha, thought that one through, have you? Remember that our electoral system is MMP: under this system, it has never been the case that one political party has garnered enough votes to govern alone.
If NZF goes down the gurgler, what do you think our government will look like? I guarantee that, whatever it is, you won’t like it.
Fletchers is not a normal company.
If we examine its history,we can see that its revolving board of directors and associated foreign financiers and ‘advisors’,have in fact set out from the very beginning to acquire this countries resources,the most valuable of which is Human,at minimal benefit to the communities in which it operates.
That much is normal…
What is not so normal is the degree to which Fletchers executives and in particular its financiers and arms length stake holders have been influenced by a certain foreign intelligence agency.
Anyone familiar with the research of Professor John Jiggens regarding the
criminal behaviour of the Nugan Hand Bank and its financiers,and its oversight by the CIA,should be capable of understanding how Fletchers eternal relationship with this same highly questionable group is intimately related to the situation we are seeing unfolding now.
If it was just between the Central Government,a group of Hapu and Fletchers as a normal company,a solution would be easily at hand.
Once we add in a global master of clandestine invasion such as the CIA,we know we need to step our game up to reflect the threat level.
For those hesitant to accept that things could really be at this level,i would advise you to familiarise yourselves with the research of Professor Jiggens.
He has clearly established CIA involvement in the Australian Black market Drug Industry,the Nugan Hand Bank and its money laundering operations,the disappearance/probable assassination of social rights campaigner Donald Mackay and the unprecedented liquidation of the Whitlam Government.
This is relevant because Fletchers has had involvement with Nugan Hand,and the influential forces behind Nugan Hand have historically proven themselves more than capable of removing democratically elected Governments in the Asia Pacific Region and elsewhere.
Given the history of CIA involvement in the global meth epidemic,it should be obvious that AO/NZ and in particular South Auckland are caught in a drug trap set for them by Foreign Powers.
The basic agenda of any of these drug operations is to
a)reduce the mental and spiritual capacity of the target community to resist enslavement.
b)create a multi billion dollar black budget to further fund even more undemocratic agendas in the operational area.
The intended result is the pretext to increase our only real public housing,which is administered by the Corrections Department!!!
It is also the intention to ruin the working classes,lower and middle,by breaking their focus and financial savvy so as to cause them to mortgage default en mass during the next GFC in down cycle,thereby allowing predatory foreign investment groups to stroll in and buy up much of the remaining real estate of Auckland,and the country for literally,a steal…
This is how its done,incrementally,in stages,step by step.
But there’s a problem…its not working properly…there is still growing resistance…
The Globalists are having a difficult time kidding us…
We should not be too surprised then when this escalates into something far more diverse than what many had expected.
Kia Kaha SOUL Aotearoa/New Zealand…
…in the bonds of war we meet…
Joshua: “If we examine its history,we can see that its revolving board of directors and associated foreign financiers and ‘advisors’,have in fact set out from the very beginning to acquire this countries resources,the most valuable of which is Human,at minimal benefit to the communities in which it operates.”
If you’re going to cast aspersions of this sort on Fletcher, it’s critically important that you provide EVIDENCE, in the form of links and the like.
Unfortunately for you, I have been around a longish time; I’ve long taken an interest in politics. So: I know a bit about Fletcher, and about the Nugan Hand Bank.
From its beginnings, Fletcher was a NZ company, owned by the Fletcher family. It merged with Challenge and Tasman only in 1981; Nugan Hand went bust in 1980. Were Fletcher looking for foreign finance before that time, it’s wildly implausible that Nugan Hand would’ve been a go-to institution. Sure, it purported to be a merchant bank, but, as pointed out here, that wasn’t its modus operandi:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nugan_Hand_Bank
“Yet the bank never became involved in traditional merchant banking activities like equity investment or mortgage financing; instead, its principals sought all manner of unconventional investment opportunities, including gun running and attempts to corner various commodities markets, such as Malaysian rubber and Indonesian oil.[6] Its Cayman Islands subsidiary also provided tax avoidance and evasion schemes”
The claims of it being a front for the CIA were never substantiated, there having been a distinct lack of evidence. That story was at least in part based on some employees having formerly been in the CIA. I suspect that the rest of it came from what the Aussies used to call “big-noting”: talking things up.
“Given the history of CIA involvement in the global meth epidemic,it should be obvious that AO/NZ and in particular South Auckland are caught in a drug trap set for them by Foreign Powers.”
Again: evidence, please. A fortiori, don’t smear Fletcher’s reputation by dragging it into accusations of this sort.
“It is also the intention to ruin the working classes,lower and middle,by breaking their focus and financial savvy so as to cause them to mortgage default en mass during the next GFC in down cycle,thereby allowing predatory foreign investment groups to stroll in and buy up much of the remaining real estate of Auckland,and the country for literally,a steal…”
Rubbish, from start to finish.
Here’s a clear explanation of the situation at Ihumatao:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/icymi/395121/explainer-why-ihumatao-is-being-occupied-by-protectors
And see this as well:
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/ihum-tao-protest-movement-has-based-its-campaign-misinformation-iwi-advocate?fbclid=IwAR3UEmtxu2Yl6JHt1i5nOhurMKF8QfCKPRUIa_WmTl0TIcCldiF9Xn9usSE
The protesters at Ihumatao are there illegally; Pania Newton has, it seems, come to believe her own publicity. It’s past time that they all went home and let the legal owners and the local iwi get on with their plans.
Shane Jones was shoulder tapped by those ultra neolib ACT founders in the 80s to go to Harvard and further his education.
He is groomed to wreak neolib hell on us just as it was done in the 80s and 90s.
Read his background on Wikipedia and understand what he represents. It is not kiwis. Check out the Kennedy School of Government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Jones
Duncan: “Shane Jones was shoulder tapped by those ultra neolib ACT founders in the 80s to go to Harvard and further his education.
He is groomed to wreak neolib hell on us just as it was done in the 80s and 90s.”
So? None of that means that he’s wrong in what he says about the current situation at Ihumatao.
So did SOUL members and their supporters get the necessary activist training to deal with such situations?
https://www.youtube.com/user/taranisnews
Home work video for activists at Ihumatao, perhaps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yomwa-0K_84
Soul seem like a bunch of unethical activists serting themselves up for the 2020 general election. You watch, Pania is all about herself and becoming the new Maori party
Pania is being disloyal to her elders and agreed processes. She’s unwilling to get houses for her whanau and children.
Yip, Bomber is pro these restless radicals who want to smash our society and break the Treaty of Waitangi for their own politcial egos.
Shane Jones is one of the few being reasonable. Greens are dead ducks, Labour doing well to loose more support.
National actually helped create this mess.
Graham M: “Soul seem like a bunch of unethical activists serting themselves up for the 2020 general election. You watch, Pania is all about herself and becoming the new Maori party
Pania is being disloyal to her elders and agreed processes. She’s unwilling to get houses for her whanau and children.”
About sums it up, by the looks. Newton has, it seems to me, come to believe her own publicity, as the saying goes. In which enterprise, she’s been ably assisted by sundry members of the earnest woke Left (some of whom are supposed to be journalists), who either have no idea what the real story is, or are too scared to critically analyse Newton’s stance – and that of her followers – lest some other member of the woke Left accuse them of “raaacism!”.
I’ve already posted this, but no harm in a repeat:
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/ihum-tao-protest-movement-has-based-its-campaign-misinformation-iwi-advocate?auto=6068733557001
With each court decision going against Ihumātao, Iwi leaders know that they can not going to be totally independent but less dependent on crown supplies. Ihumātao will always be a satellite. So the quest has begun for formal independence.
Lies, lies and more lies, remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-jHCdafZY
Propaganda:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0NfI2NeDHI
More:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6TFkmzUIbU
The Prime Minister does not “direct” the Police, the Police are independent and only answer to the Commissioner. This is how a democracy works.
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