WHOA!
National would pull NZ out of UN migration pact
National would pull New Zealand out of the UN’s Global Compact on Migration because of its potential to restrict New Zealand’s ability to set its own migration and foreign policy, National Leader Simon Bridges says.
“National is supportive of global action on major issues and of migration into New Zealand because it brings skills, capital and connections and makes New Zealand a better, more diverse place. And we support the ability for New Zealanders to travel and live and work overseas should they choose.
“But immigration policy is solely a matter for individual countries and must take account of their individual circumstances – and New Zealand’s policies are already held up as international best practice. There is no automatic right to migrate to another country without that country’s full agreement, a view which the United Nation’s Global Compact on Migration, set to be signed next week, seeks to counter.
“While not binding, the Compact could restrict the ability of future governments to set immigration and foreign policy, and to decide on which migrants are welcome and which aren’t. While National is the party most open to immigration, we cannot accept this.
I knew Simon Bridges was in danger of getting rolled this Summer, but I had no idea he was in THIS much trouble.
Firstly, let’s be clear, this is all garbage.
National needs open gate mass immigration to keep the speculative property bubble afloat and it keeps the huge number of Chinese nationals happy. What Bridges is doing here by pointlessly raging against the UN is an attempt to solidify his white South Island rump electorate while making a raid into the Auckland electorate who are suffering the most from the pressures of immigration.
This is symbolic sophistry because the UN migration pact is completely voluntary, Bridges needs to deflect the perception National are little more than a front organisation for Chinese business fronts and looking tough against the UN does that.
He can pull out of the UN and throw his toys, but that won’t stop National turning the mass migration taps on again if they ever get back into power because National have no other economic plan than mass immigration, mass diary to China and rebuilding from any natural disaster that strikes.
This is an act of meaningless desperation by an irrelevant leader desperately trying to stay relevant.
Judith’s knife must be pressing deep into his back now.
From what I know, this has very little to do with actual immigration. To qoute the agreement
“This Global Compact presents a non-legally binding, cooperative framework that builds on the commitments agreed upon by Member States in the New York Declaration for Refugees and Migrants. It fosters international cooperation among all relevant actors on migration, acknowledging that no State can address migration alone, and upholds the sovereignty of States and their obligations under international law.”
This is the the usual National Party stuff to keep milking the buzzword “immigration” for mostly cheap internal political gain.
Thanks for the insight on this one. Mostly it is hard to listen to SB let alone think critically about it as it all seems so desperate and cynical so thanks for paying it attention so we don’t have to.
National = sellout to China.
+100 CLEANGREEN
It’s ironic how National exploited high immigration to artificially boost economic indicators (though this wasn’t reflected in gdp growth per person), and is now railing against high immigration!! Like, wtf?? The stench of hypocrisy is as over-powering as Gerry Brownlee letting rip a ginormous fart in a phone booth (and not the Tardis variety, I might add).
I wonder if anyone in MSM is awake to pick up on this.
I suspect not. Too busy on santa-related bs stories.
I watched a bit of Question Time today, the Question Time in Parliament. Simon asked a few questions, and sounded and looked rather desperate to get some traction while doing so.
He is clearly worried now, given his low support in the polls. Any straw he can get his hands on will be grabbed and held onto.
I bet he will be gone by autumn in perhaps April or May 2019.
Another angle is that National reduced the skill level at which immigrants qualify for which has brought many job values down as employers take these people on minimum wage because they have no choice but to since they don’t have a benefit system to back them up, this drives down the value of a job and we would have to accept those rates too if we want to stay employed.
Well said. Thats exactly whats happening
Right on Mark and who did this policy effect the most? the people at the bottom of the income ladder and at the same time national cut social services and denied people their entitlements so the people at the bottom took another hit. Then we have cheap foreign labour people coming here saying we should stop moaning and be grateful now that t is exactly why we don’t want these people here because our standard of living is compromised.
So our people at the bottom end up on low wages , insecure jobs , no or less options of social housing cause national sold it of little wonder we have so many people depressed in our country when this is how they are being treated.
You got it in one Michelle.
The degradation of the 99% of Kiwi workers, courtesy of Natz.
+100 MICHELLE and MARY
A bit like your irrelevant pieces on Bridges… the Natzis could run with a goddam houseplant or a goat as leader and still win… Labour and National both import tens of thousands of foreign (mainly National) voters every year…
If you want to write an intelligent, insightful and forward-looking piece, how about something on the resistance to the Ju-Darth Collins Chinese Dictatorship coming in 2020?
if National pulled NZ out they would be in good company as Australia and USA have decided not to sign. I would be very surprised if Winston will let this slide especially as HD can see his support base falling away.
…you notably forgot to mention Israel.
“Australia, USA, Israel, Belgium’s Nationalist N-VA Party, Finland’s Nationalist Finns Party, Germany’s AfD etc (you get the vibe?) “….may all be your definition of ‘good company’ when it comes to dealing with ‘aliens’ but I’ll pass.
Obviously the Jewish state wouldn’t support open migration into Israel, for obvious reasons
The Visigrad countries (Poland, Hungary etc) have been screwed over by other countries so many times in their histories, it’s hardly surprising either that they are taking a hard line nationalist approach
Martyn;
I think you are a bit disengenuous here in your rush to the illusional tribal battle of ‘Left v Right’.
I suspect that this policy would have been written by National’s Board and probably enough to win next election on it’s own.
Further on Bridges statement:
“While a number of countries are pulling out of the agreement as the extent of
its potential impact on the decision-making of individual countries is realised,
our Government is refusing to outline its own position.”
“For these reasons, National will not be supporting this agreement and we will reverse the decision if this Government signs up to it.”
December 11th is the date for ratification.
This is serious.!
“The United Nations Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration seeks to make immigration a universal human right.”
PC GONE MAD.!!
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1052923/UN-migration-agreement-Angela-Merkel-EU-criticise-migration-hate-crime
“Austria, Australia, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Italy, Israel, Poland, Slovakia and Switzerland have already stated they will not sign the agreement.
One of the “guiding principles” of the document asks for a “whole-of-society approach” to promoting mass migration, including the role of the media.”
“The Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration was approved in July by all 193 member UN nations except the United States, which backed out last year, and is due to be ratified formally in December.”
Above article reminds that both Labour and the Daily Blog seem quiet on the looming crisis at America’s southern boarder, with thousands still on their way.
And on the migrant problems of Europe for that matter. (Our MSM is a given)
Jacinda Adern needs to be very clear about this as Australia and America will
not sign, along with UK’s Brexit premise to take back control of it’s boarder.
These are our Five Eye allies.
Along with the other countries, this will be high on NZer’s NOT TO DO list as well.
Speech of two MEP’s.
“The document is not legally binding, but governments will be under pressure to follow its dictates.”
https://www.newswars.com/mep-warns-un-pact-will-flood-europe-with-59-million-migrants-by-2025/
“There is no automatic right to migrate to another country without that country’s full agreement”
So you support Open Boarders?
Cheers.
Wake up folks, the UN is NOT our friend. (on many issues.)
Oh, ffs, Iain, you’re not a UN-NWO conspiacist as well, are you?
Is there any conspiracy theory you don’t indulge?
Martyn is 100% correct: National exploited heightened immigration levels which, along with the housing-price bubble “grew” the economy. If you don’t understand the simplicity of this, perhaps I can shroud it within a conspiracy for you to better appreciate it.
As for your comment, “PC GONE MAD”?! I suggest you get a tech guy/gal to look at your “mad” PC. Probably got a virus from one of those conspiracy websites you pay way too much attention to.
Frank;
The question is: Do you support Open Boarders?
Don’t know about Frank but for 9 years National clearly did.
Yes they did it (open borders) because they didn’t care about those their policy effected they had to please the business people so they have a big cheap pool of labour and so they can treat their workers like shit and so they can continue to grow their profits while in the man time many kiwis cant even afford a decent roof over their heads.
Yeah, well, I don’t support stupid boarders
+1 Bert!
Iain, what I “support” doesn’t come into it: I’m not a [former] National Party minister.
Your question to me deflects from your original proposition and the fact that National exploited open borders to create the illusion of a “growing economy”.
“Frank;
The question is: Do you support Open Boarders?”
What sort of stoopid loaded question is that?? FFS, Iain, the Nats used mass immigration to boost economic activity. It had nothing to do Martyn, Frank, or the U.N. Forget your conspiracy theories. This has nothing to do with wacky-doodle “new world order” conspiracies. It’s what Tories do to stay in power!! Focus, man, focus!!
I don’t think NZ has ever had “mass immigration” of the form seen recently in Germany.
The rather more concerning aspect of the UN Pact is the proposed criminalisation of free speech, labeling criticism of the pact as “hate speech”
The left in NZ were very quick to get Southern and Molyneux kicked out of NZ on these grounds. But beware, it’s a slippery slope once society starts policing speech
“The left in NZ were very quick to get Southern and Molyneux kicked out of NZ on these grounds. But beware, it’s a slippery slope once society starts policing speech”
Really, Andy. You show a lot of selectivity in that stupid comment. You must have the memory if a goldfish if you’ve forgotten that Martyn Bradbury and Chris Trotter both fought hard to have those two alt-right fascists to be allowed to speak freely in NZ.
Yes I do remember that. However both Phil Goff and our PM were against the visit
I therefore assume that NZ is officially against free speech
Not me
Neither Bridges nor Iain refute this Frank. Your offering a red herring. The abrogation of a nation’s choice or to change policy in the future in response to changing circumstances is the issue here and I am sure you are aware of that.
D J S
David, I suggest you re-read Iain’s 10:07 pm post. He clearly glosses over National’s mass immigration policies.
It’s not the United Nations at fault here. In effect the New Zealand government, elected by over a million voters over three successive elections, enacted indigenous policies to permit mass immigration.
It is unclear why Martyn should be excoriated for something National did.
I don’t support either national’s or the Clark government’s previous immigration or foreign acquisition policies. I seemed to me that both administrations balanced the books by selling off NZ land and NZ citizenships and I deplore that policy.
But they were the elected government. The UN is not.
D J S
The whole UN thing is a red herring. Its a beloved bogeyman of conspiracists. The alternative is a world riven by milirary alliances and no concept of international law. We may be separate nations, but we all co-exist on one small finite planet.
It’s funny how people describe things like the UN, EU, Agenda 21 etc as “conspiracy theories”, when their agendas are written down for all to read.
The alternative is a world driven by CIA terrorism
That is a conspiracy theory that has some credence
Funny, I never had you pegged as an anti-CIA type, Andy.
Why is that? Is it because you immediately assume that I associate with a tribe and adopt all the thoughts of the tribe?
+100 IAIN MCLEAN…good points well made
Forget left versus right. Just buy a gilet jaune and wear it.
Can someone help me here but I thought the UN charter (of which New Zealand was one of the initial signatories) guaranteed every human the right to leave and/or return to their own country? Is also guarantees lots of other things that the ruling classes of New Zealand ignore, but that’s another thing.
https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/12/dugin-uprising-in-france
Christopher Lasch wrote a book about thirty years ago called ‘The Culture of Narcissism.’
Judith won’t stab in the back , she will go for the throat just to be sure she has finished the job and send the bill to parliamentary services to clean up the mess.
What a joke that the National party has walked out of parliament over the speaker ” protecting the PM ”
John Key , Bill English and the rest of those corrupted clowns got away with not being answerable to parliament over some serious issues thanks to David Carter ruling always in their favour and doing it with a conceited smile on his face.
Trevor Mallard has been doing an amazing job and often comes down hard on the government when he thinks it is warranted.
The National party still behave like they still run the country.
Has anyone noticed that whenever JC has her mug in a photo, she’s either scowling or grinning like an evil Cheshire cat?
UPDATE: RED ALERT.!!
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/22/world-follows-trumps-lead-nations-abandon-legal-framework-building-un-migration-pact/
“While debate on the UN migration pact rages worldwide, with a growing number of nations following the United States in withdrawing, the major deal has seen little discussion in the United Kingdom.”
“Indeed, net migration to Britain still runs at over 270,000 a year, and former Tory chancellor George Osborne has suggested the party’s leadership never intended to honour the pledge.”
“During drafting, British negotiators called for clauses recognising that it is the right and obligation of states to control their own borders, and that there should be a distinction between refugees and economic migrants, but they were not incorporated into the final text.
While legal professionals have said the compact acts will create a legal framework that lawyers will interpret at the national level to advance mass migration, it has received little attention or debate in the United Kingdom, where the political space remains consumed by Brexit.”
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/22/world-follows-trumps-lead-nations-abandon-legal-framework-building-un-migration-pact/
“President Trump said at the body’s New York headquarters in September: “Migration should not be governed by an international body unaccountable to our own citizens.”
“Australian Prime Minister Scott Morris remarked Wednesday that the agreement is “inconsistent” with his nation’s best interest, and that the document “fails to adequately distinguish between people who enter Australia illegally and those who come to Australia the right way”, noting the frequent observation that the paper does not differentiate between legal and illegal migration.”
“Poland’s Interior Minister Joachim Brudzinski said in October that: “the draft of the agreement does not contain adequately strong guarantees of [nations’] sovereign right to decide who comes into their territory and [nor does it] distinguish legal and illegal migration”.
“The plan has been repeatedly defended in the mainstream media and in the halls of government with claims that the articles set out in the document are not legally binding, however expert legal opinion suggests that while the document is drafted as “non-binding”, it is written in a way that creates a legal framework.
This, Belgian law professor Pierre d’Argent argues, will act like other UN compacts that have proceeded it will be used by lawyers to interpret the meaning of laws.
He said: “…lawyers use this pact as a reference tool to try to guide them…This has already occurred in international or national jurisdictions to refer to instruments that are not legally binding.”
“Poland’s Interior Minister Joachim Brudzinski said in October that: “the draft of the agreement does not contain adequately strong guarantees of [nations’] sovereign right to decide who comes into their territory and [nor does it] distinguish legal and illegal migration”.
“We want Poles to be safe in their country.”
“German law professor Matthias Herdegen came to a similar conclusion, as Breitbart London reported. Remarking that the UN compact occupied a “legal grey area”, it “gives the impression of [state] liability” and would raise the expectations of potential migrants in the third world, having the impact of potentially rising migration levels even if no laws actually changed.”
“Switzerland is now postponing a decision on signing the deal, and the nation’s parliament will debate the issue in the coming weeks.”
Which brings me to the reason behind my RED ALERT.
If Switzerland can do it why can’t we?
Why has there been no parlimentary debate or MSM coverage on a subject that quite obviously will have such an enormous impact on the daily lives of every
New Zealander?
For years to come, I might add. Forever?
We can hardly cope with migrant numbers now on our infrastructure let alone
an Open Boarder.
Ratification occurs on December 11th.!!
Are we about to see – like the signing of the TPPA post haste – the “Wolf in Sheeps Clothing” I warned about pre 2017 election, follow May in the UK, and sign away – “by increment and stealth” the lives of Nzer’s and generations to come, to a Globalist Agenda that does NOT have our good in mind.!!!
I can’t believe that Winston would let her get away with it.
No cheers.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/01/uk-petition-reject-un-migration-compact-breaks-40000/
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/24/hungary-attacks-un-pact-attempting-legalising-migration-populist-claims-criticism-migration-criminal/
Hungary’s statement that the ‘non-binding’ Compact can, in fact, be ‘binding,’
Calling it “a legalisation of mass migration,” the Dutch populist said:
“It’s declaring migration a human right.”
MISTAKE:
The first link should be:
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/25/hypocritical-uk-govt-to-sign-un-migration-pact-despite-pledge-to-control-borders/
Sorry.
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