Why denying Sarah Huckabee Sanders service doesn’t make us champions

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People get that denying Sarah Huckabee Sanders service at a restaurant for personal convictions is exactly the same as refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding right?

I appreciate everyone is angry and righteous, but we are all failing here.

People get that denying Sarah Huckabee Sanders service at a restaurant for personal convictions is exactly the same as refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding right?

I appreciate everyone is angry and righteous, but we are all failing here.

Both are personal decisions based on deep personal convictions – when we start to deny service to one another based on those convictions civil society starts to unravel.

Consumer boycotts are aimed at establishments or regimes, not individuals and taking it to an individual level is dangerous.

You can’t champion denying Sanders service and then decry a conservative cake maker doing the exact same thing by refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

Our rage is making us hypocrites.

Some will say you can’t compare homophobia to righteous protest, but one’s righteous protest can easily become anothers bigotry can’t it?

Sanders is a repugnant human being who lies for a living – being born gay is part of the beautiful spectrum of humanity –  but where we are standing at now in America is a flashpoint – averting the spiral downwards requires more than ‘I’m right & you’re wrong’.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer gets the dangerous escalation this could cause, “I strongly disagree with those who advocate harassing folks if they don’t agree with you, if you disagree with a politician, organize your fellow citizens to action and vote them out of office. But no one should call for the harassment of political opponents. That’s not right. That’s not American.”

Calling for the harassment of political opponents in public is going to backlash on the Left – we need civility far more than the Right does.

UPDATE: Maybe it’s too late…

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8 Comments

  1. Christine says:

    Couldn’t agree more. Denying service – hmm – borderline. Boasting of it and we’re entering breakdown of society territory, where lack of civility portends nothing positive, and achieves nothing, except maybe a whetting up of unhelpful emotions.

  2. Castro says:

    No sh*t, Sherlock. How about a piece on the detention without trial of dissenters in the world’s largest dictatorship? Too left wing?

  3. Mike the Lefty says:

    What about the reason that she is simply a nasty piece of work and the restaurant is better off without her?
    If you were the owner would you really like an odious character like her in your place?
    I know I wouldn’t.

  4. Mjolnir says:

    Really, Martyn? So we’re expected to remain inactive? Talk is cheap. But acts count. Don’t forget that we didn’t just speak out against the Vietnam War, apartheid, and French nuke testing , we acted! Once of those actions was to close down the apartheid Sth African embassy. Today many on the Left are demanding (quite rightly) the closure of the zionist Israeli embassy.

    But according to you, asking people to leave is “dangerous”? How else do ordinary people make a stand against injustice? By refusing to be complicit, that’s how.

    As long as no violence is used, people have a right to reject those that espouse injustice.

  5. Cemetery Jones says:

    Incidentally he’s right in that tweet. Mad Maxine cannot seriously be legally compos mentis, can she? Why isn’t the DNC sitting her down for a retirement conversation? She’s a fucking embarassment. And when some MAGA intern with a CCW permit puts rounds into a crowd of SJWs who have been radicalised by her idiotic sermonising, thing are going to get tense in ways which will not benefit the left.

    As to the Sanders saga, the American left and right can’t have it both ways. The Christian baker who wouldn’t make a cake with a message which celebrated a same-sex wedding was decried by the people who are supporting this restaurant owner, while this restaurant owner is being decried by the people who supported the Christian baker.

    If the American left had gotten their way at the supreme court the other week, this restaurant owner (Meryl Streep’s cousin apparently) would be the one in major trouble. But since the American right got to have it their way as the supreme court, they will have to accept that it’s part and parcel of their own argument to be refused service by someone who finds your beliefs incompatible with their own values.

    But IMO the left dodged a bullet when the Christian baker won the supreme court case. Had the court ruled that he must bake the cake regardless of how he feels about the message, the following phone call would have been made all across the USA:

    “Hi is that the Islamic bakery? I want to order a Mohammed cartoon cake.

    Yes, the Democrats just got the supreme court to say you have to.”

  6. Sam Sam says:

    Hey well. Agian, no one mentioned Anthony Bordain. Hope not. When chefs like Martha Stewart become more famous than the kardashians, y’know you’ve only got 5 lives left.

  7. Siobhan says:

    If i went into certain bars or restaurants wearing the jandals jeans and a beanie, i’d get refused entry, presumably because my image didn’t reflect the ‘image’ or standards of the establishment.

    Maybe this is the same thing.

    Then again, we own a business with a socialist vibe, and have had a few discussions about certain locals we would refuse service to for political reasons, but then when push comes to shove, as long as they behave in a reasonable fashion we have never kicked them out. And, in fact, have engaged in some enlightening conversations with the most unlikely of people.

    Talking, and extending the hand of reason, is always the first step. You will never open anyone else’s mind if you slam the door in their face. And unless the Left plans on going full Pol Pot on them, we really do need to keep talking to the centrists and even the nutters.