Election 2017 Live Results

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Election 2017 Live Results

The votes are in, the results await!

REMEMBER: Anyone who enrolled when they advance voted will be counted as a ‘special’ vote & special votes won’t be counted for another 2 weeks. If there was a youth surge for the Left, it will be found there – we may not have a clear decision tonight

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  1. RIP Labour and Greens, selfishness rules in Aotearoa NZ, never mind climate change and destruction, I have said it all along, they want their SUVs, Utes, their consumerism, they think all that is needed to charge ten cents on plastic shopping bags, and we are fine.

  2. Winston won’t make a decision in the national interest.
    It will be in the National interest.
    He just wants to string it out for a while.

    • We will get TPPA if National succeed,Winston is against TPPA so lets see if he puts NZ first instead of self interest.

    • Democracy will take a lot of work bring it back from 65% turn out. Viewing democracy crumble from an elevator position is much more preferable.

    • It won’t be easy for them as they will have to comprise their policies simply to be in office with Winston .National and Winston have a terrible history and there is a lot of bad blood .

  3. “the Maori Party have fared badly and at this stage will be out of Parliament altogether.” Stuff.co.nz

    Labour Wins

    In the immortal words of George W. Bush,

    “Mission accomplished”.

    The Labour Party has finally achieved its main electoral campaign goal.

    Labour leader Jacinder Ardern is quietly confidant that she will soon get the expected phone call from Te Ururoa Flavell conceding defeat.
    The Labour Party campaign against the Maori Party has been a total success, and now Labour can look forward to another 3 to 6 years in opposition untroubled by calls to heed Maori claims around the Treaty of Waitangi, or preservation of the Maori language, or Maori objections to seabed mining.

    It was a long battle but Labour have finally managed to achieve success in their long campaign to remove all Maori representatives not under Labour’s control from parliament.

    It is unfortunate that the Maori Party (and Mana), votes could have given the Labour the necessary numbers to form a government, but that is the price Labour have paid for victory.

    The tactic of not having Labour’s Maori electorate MPs on the Labour list to keep them focused on smashing the Maori Party, was especially brilliant and has paid off for the Labour Party. Labour leader Jacinder Ardern has not announced yet if Labour’s Maori electorate MPs will now be be allowed back on the Labour list or whether they will be permanently left off it.

    Whether or not to make the decision to put their Maori MPs back on their list, may soon become extremely pressing for Jancinder Ardern. Especially if Winston Peters referendum to remove the Maori seats from parliament goes ahead. If Jacinder Ardern does not put Labour’s Maori MPs back in their rightful place back on the Labour list, and if Peters achieves his aim of removing the Maori seats every single Maori MP in the Labour Party caucus, not on the list will be turfed out of parliament.

    But again this sacrifice may be seen as worth it, and Labour’s Loyal Maori electorate MPs will be asked to accept this sacrifice on the Party’s behalf.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/97170107/election-2017-strong-national-result-with-89-of-vote-counted

    • You can’t blame Labour for this. Labour would have had no reason to campaign against the Māori party, and Māori roll voters would have had no reason to dump their Māori Party MPs, if those MPs hadn’t been propping up the NatACTs for 9 years, despite losing MPs every time they did. The Māori Party blew their credibility with overwhelmingly left-leaning Māori, and deserve the electoral oblivion they got. It’s a shame they took Hone and Mana down with them, but that was also Hone’s karma for tethering his lifeboat to the Māori Party’s Titanic.

      • “You can’t blame Labour for this”

        I can and do blame Labour for this debacle.

        As Napoleon said,

        “There is no such thing as bad soldiers, only bad generals.”

        Labour had a chance to make up with the Maori Party, but instead put all Labour Maori electorate MPs off the Labour list to ensure that they stayed focused on crushing the Maori Party. The message was win your seat or get out of parliament.

        This despite the fact that the Maori Party would never go with the Nats and New Zealand First, who’s first item of business will be to discuss how to abolish the Maori seats.

        The other place where your attempt to escape blame falls down Danyl, is that Labour attacked Hone Harawira even more viciously after he left the National Maori Party coalition. It seems that Labour can’t abide any independent Maori voice in parliament that they don’t control. Your talk of Karma Danyl is more apt applied to Labour. Labour lost to National because Labour chose to keep their death grip on the Maori seats rather than treat Maori Parliamentarians as equals, to the point of imposing an apartheid like exclusion of all Labour electorate MPs from the Labour list.

        The other place where your argument falls down Danyl, is that despite finding the Maori Party beyond the pale for going with National, Labour have no problem at all with trying to seek a coalition with New Zealand First, or even, if they were still in parliament, United future despite both have been in coalition with National at some point.

        Labour spokespeople even appealed to Labour supporters in Epsom to tactically vote for Paul Goldsmith, the National Party candidate.

        But no such arrangement was ever contemplated for the Maori Party, or Hone Harawira, even at the cost of losing the last two elections.

        Labour, as Jacinder Ardern has recognised, is still paying the price for removing Maori legal right to take court action over the exploitation of the seabed and foreshore, to prevent Maori challenging the sell off of seabed mining and drilling rights being challenged on grounds of native title and Kaitiaki.

        I have tried for months and indeed years to persuade Labour Party people to give up their suicidal campaign to get rid of all independent Maori voices from parliament, but to no avail.

        Karma indeed.

  4. You can’t help but be struck with how civilised elections are in NZ cf. nearly everywhere else in the world. No police all over the place, no riots , almost no security, good will in all directions . Heartfelt disappointment in some places but not bitterness or quarrel . We have got some things to be proud of.
    Martyn’s comment about the new voters enrolling and voting at the same time being counted in the specials could be very significant. Why would anyone make two trips of it, one to enrol and another to vote a few days later. Most new voters are probably in that part of the specials .
    Goodnight D J S

    • The Spinoff made a factual error in that article:
      “There is no rule that the biggest party gets to form a government. But it’s always been that way, since 1996”

      Actually it was 1999, and it was the way Helen Clark became NZ’s first elected woman PM. I am hoping and praying to see those smug grins wiped off the faces of English, Bennett etc, just like they were wiped off the faces of Shipley and co in 1999. Don’t let us down Winston!

  5. As was pointed out on RadioNZ, National only have such a high party vote because they have swallowed ACT’s vote, and now they will be forced to shit out their remains if they want a shot at governing with NZ First support. They don’t have a clear majority, and getting a higher vote than Labour (and even Labour-Greens as a block) doesn’t guarantee them the Treasury benches. The whole point of MMP is to prevent a party governing alone when they get less than half of the popular vote.

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