The Daily Blog Open Mic – Wednesday 30th August 2017

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  1. CLEANGREEN says:

    Winston bows to the NZF caucus to decide who to pair up with post election & what the voters leave for him after the election.

  2. Kim dandy says:

    NZ MSM have been watching too much game of thrones…
    We just want a better way forward for NZ – such poverty in a country the size of NZ, with all its resources, just shows bad management and greed at the top.
    Time to go National – you had your chance and you failed so many New Zealanders miserably… And take your lapdog MSM with you.
    Roll on Sept.

    • Sam Sam says:

      MSM eyes all over TDB.

      To get the job old school producers would travel with journo’s on push bikes, place both feet firmly on a ledge with both hands gripped firmly around the camera mans waist belt so the camera person can lean forward and get the shot. I’v personally watched this dynamic play out many times. How many news producer have the balls to leave there comfy air conditioned editing suite? My guess is fuck all because today. To get the story producers have to become the story and I think the mother of all scandals clearly shows that dynamic playing out.

  3. The Chairman says:

    Insurance costs to soar in what brokers are calling a ‘perfect storm’. Which will drive up private and commercial rents, thus inflation as costs are passed on.

    Recent earthquakes, the growing illegal use of methamphetamine and rises in the fire service levy and EQC cover are being blamed.

    We often see the finger pointed at the rising cost of houses for the increasing cost of rents, tending to forget about the role of increasing insurance costs.

    Moreover, the increase in insurance cover will also impact upon council premisses/assets, thus ratepayers.

    Rates (with their disproportionally larger than inflation increases) being another factor at play when it comes to the increasing cost of rents.

    So as businesses and landlords struggle to maintain margins, consumers and tenants will face higher costs. Which will no doubt drive more below the poverty line.

    Any suggestions on how we can address and overcome this?

    Soaring insurance cost will challenge Labour’s ability to lift more kids out of poverty.

    In hindsight, Labour may want to reconsider dropping KiwiAssure. 

    • Sam Sam says:

      The Monatray authority in 2012 moved to tighten regulation around the distribution of online Contracts for Difference which is just a notice of scheduled payment to brokers and that’s generalised through out the finance industry (see link above)

      Solution is to let insurance companies go bankrupt instead of topping them up with bail outs. And that’s the definition of a Ponzi scheme and to big to fail at the same time.

      RBS and MAS would be a good place to go and collaborate on the idea of regulating of CFD’s.

      Just got to quit pumping money into bankrupt business that require 3rd world wages to remain competitive.

      • CLEANGREEN says:

        Good news here for Labour.

        So far in this poll Jacinda has moved 10% Natz voters over to labour.


        Ardern drives vote switch: nett 10% leave National for Labour
        30 Aug 17

        Ardern gathering votes from National, Green and NZ First
        Labour’s leadership change has potentially shifted 11% of the 2014 National Party vote to Labour, while 2% of Labour’s 2014 voters are switching to National.

        The choice of Jacinda Ardern as Labour leader has had its biggest effect on the Green Party, with more 2014 Green Party voters now saying they will vote for Labour than say they will vote again for the Green Party.

        An August 11-15 Vote Switching poll by Horizon Research finds, among those who are both registered to vote and 100% likely to vote:

        11% of 2014 National Party voters – around 127,600 people – indicating a move to Labour for the next election.  2% of Labour’s 2014 voters – around 10,100 people – indicated they would vote National this election, which gives National a nett loss to Labour of around 117,400 voters.

        59% of 2014 Green Party voters are now saying they will be voting for other parties in the 2017 general election.  And nearly 8 in 10 of that group say they will now be voting for the Labour Party, with just over 3 in 10 saying that because of the recent benefit disclosures by Metiria Turei and her subsequent resignation as co-leader they were less likely to vote Green and nearly 7 in 10 indicating the change in Labour leadership has made them more likely to vote Labour. 

        Loyalty among New Zealand First 2014 voters has dropped 10% to 72% between May and August Horizon polls. Labour’s leadership change is driving the change. However, New Zealand First potential gains from other parties are larger than the potential losses and this has strengthened the overall New Zealand First position.

        Voter numbers projected in this report are based on the Electoral Commission’s Official Count Results for the 2014 New Zealand general election.  The poll is of 959 adults nationwide representing the New Zealand 18+ population at the most recent census. At a 95% confidence level the maximum margin of error on the overall result is +/- 3.2%.  The analysis shown in this release is based on a sub-sample of 860 respondents who said they were both registered to vote and 100% likely to vote.

        The survey complies with Research Association New Zealand political polling code.

        Horizon will be publishing results from this survey for preferred coalition partnerships and Prime Minister.

        Party vote share polls are being conducted before the September 23 general election.

        An election with significant Party Vote change from smaller parties?

        Party vote switching patterns show that, among those who are registered to vote and say they are 100% likely to vote, 81% of people who voted for the Labour, National, and ACT New Zealand parties – around 1,415,000 voters – are likely to vote for the same party again in 2017.  72% of those who voted for New Zealand First in 2014 are likely to do so again.

        Among those who voted for any other party, however, only around 25% expect to be voting for the same party again.

        Around 79% of those who voted for parties in the current Government said will vote for those parties again.  But on current switching intentions, parties in the current government coalition are likely to lose around 211,600 voters and gain 60,300 – a nett loss of 151,300 votes.  

        67% of those who voted for the Labour or Green parties in 2014 said they will vote for those parties again.  However, there is a potential movement of 15% of the 2014 voters for these parties between the parties – 119,500 from Green to Labour and 25,500 from Labour to Green – a nett benefit for Labour from switching between these parties of around 94,000 voters.

        Voter loyalty

        Results for voting questions asked by Horizon in November 2016, March 2017 and May 2017 have been used to calculate voter loyalty to the party they voted for in 2014 for comparison with the results of the August 2017 survey.  The results indicate that vote switching is affecting all parties – positively or negatively – but with a particularly negative impact on the Green Party and a strong positive impact on the Labour Party vote. 

  4. Pat O'Dea says:

    What part of ‘No New Coalmines’ don’t they understand!

    Kia Ora

    The destruction of our climate is one issue not being discussed much in these elections. I intend to try and bring this issue back into the public eye.

    To this end I am co-hosting an event at the Mangatangi Marae against the opening of new coal mines.
    Would you or your whanau/friends be interested in attending this hui, and surrounding events.

    The itinerary is as follows:

    Friday the 1st of September. Powhiri and Whaikero, starting at 6pm on the Marae. Followed by dinner and discussion.
    With an overnight stay on the Marae.

    Saturday the 2nd of September,
    At 12pm a bus will leave from Auckland to arrive at Mangatangi Marae at 1pm. The bus will then leave from the Marae to travel to the Karangahake gorge near Paeroa and arrive at Karanghake by 2pm to support an anti-gold mine protest rally.
    Coramandel Watchdog activists have asked, that we support their campaign against the new gold mine being proposed in the gorge.
    (Gold mining is not strictly climate change related. But this is a worthy cause and event. The Karangahake gorge and river are a beautiful place that deserve protecting.) Bus returns to Auckland stopping off at the Marae to drop off those staying over. For those staying on at the Marae, Saturday evening, there will be a film. The film is “Disobedience”.

    Sunday 3rd of September there will be a protest against the reopening of the old K1 Coal Mine near Maramarua, about 7k from the Marae. Events finish up by 6pm back at the Marae.
    I hope that you or your Whanau can attend all or some of these events.

    The program caters for all people, of varying levels of commitment and time, People can attend for one day or for all three.

    Hope to see you there.

    Ka kite Ano

    Patrick J. O’Dea

  5. Marc says:

    Must watch, maybe a year or so old, but relevant to the Leaders Debate on TV1 tonight:

  6. Marc says:

    with what I observe in the political scene, we may as well give up TDB, as the forces that are controlling things from behind rule unabated.

  7. Marc says:

    A TV debate between a wooden top ‘rock’ star PM, full of BS and a charming, young and good looking trendy, social talk woman, that does NOT impress me one bit, I rather want this to happen in sleepy hobbit territory, but nobody is up to it, all conned into the BS ‘kiwi dream’:

    Wake up, your dream will NEVER come true, you have been conned and cheated, and no matter whether Nats or Labour, the cheating will continue, the system that is rotten will NOT change.

  8. Marc says:

    Even Americans reported, but others are so cowardly NOT reporting what happened, and we have the Jacinda Effect, FFS, what world do we live in?

  9. Marc says:

    Black Block scared stiff bus passengers, what do you want, justice and revolution or more of the same?

  10. Marc says:

    Why are all these cars burning? “Chaots” she calls them, so powerless and self entitled bourgeois. So people, wake up, what are you made of? Are you of solidarity or divisionary capitalist quality, tell us:

  11. Marc says:

    Antifa, what are you about, we are peaceful, what are you?

  12. Marc says:

    Love this, lived nearby for years: