Winston is blowing so many dog whistles at once of late that it may as well be a dog bagpipe.
He’s going to starve his brain of any oxygen if he keeps going.
Winston Peters a ‘dangerous old man’ – Sue Bradford
Winston Peters has been labelled a “dangerous old man” who’s “really past his prime”, after vowing to repeal the so-called anti-smacking law.
Sue Bradford, the former Green MP behind the law, told The AM Show on Monday she was “horrified” by his recent comments.
“What he’s advocating is the return of the legalising of assault on our children, which is the last thing our kids need and the last thing the kids of Northland need.”
The Northland MP and NZ First leader on Friday said: “We are going to repeal the anti-smacking law which doesn’t work, and has in fact seen greater violence towards children.”
Ms Bradford said: “He’s talking about this on the back of the incident up in Kaikohe recently with the young people rampaging.
“Those kids probably see far too much violence I’d suggest in their lives already, far too much poverty, unemployment, a lack of opportunities for their families in their part of the country.”
The 2007 law change removed the defence of “reasonable force” in cases where parents and caregivers were being prosecuted for assault on children.
“It’s helped massively to change the idea that actually parents and other adults responsible for children are legally entitled to use physical punishment on their kids, that sometimes led to quite serious assaults,” said Ms Bradford.
Repealing the law would send the wrong message, she believes.
There are two things about this.
Firstly, it’s gutless to keep promising referendums because sometimes Politicians actually have to have some moral and ethical spine to lead on these issues when their electorate are not.
The great civil rights leaders of our times didn’t say, ‘Oh let’s put it to a referendum’, they stood and demanded action because it was the right thing to do. NZ First promising a referendum on the repeal of section 59 is just gutless garbage.
Secondly, it would be madness to revisit the repeal of section 59 because the ‘debate’ the first time around was a fucking disgrace.
I say ‘debate’, because it really wasn’t a debate so much as it was a lynch mob whipped up by hysterical mainstream media screaming ‘nanny state’.
How very Nu Zilund of us all.
The mainstream media hysteria at the time convinced New Zealanders that the politically correct social engineers of the Helengrad Dykeocracy were going to arrest all God fearing heterosexual parents who lightly hit away their children’s hands from stoves or moving vehicles.
The fact that the legislation was being brought in to remove a legal loophole where abusive parents who were being prosecuted for assault were able to claim ‘discipline’ as a defence and were getting away with child abuse was utterly drowned out by the howls of anger from the ‘we want the legal right to bash our kids’ lynch mob.
Just pause and consider the enormity of that. We had a farcical legal position where the court was ending up protecting abusive parents and NOT protecting the child who was being abused. That outcome didn’t serve justice and Sue Bradford’s courageous position was the rightoues one to implement, sadly the immaturity and slack jawed stupidity of a vast chunk of NZ couldn’t understand that they were marching for the rights of abusive parents.
Do we really want to revisit the naked feral ignorance of guilty Parents who have hit their kids and don’t want to feel that guilt?
Isn’t it hilarious that it’s ‘nanny state’ to remove a legal loophole that was protecting abusive parents, but it isn’t ‘nanny state’ to push contraception and drug testing on beneficiaries.
Democracy that’s fine when you agree with the majority but requires politicians “with spine” to ignore it when the majority disagrees with you is not democracy. You either have democracy or you don’t.
D J S
Firstly; Dog bagpipes ! Hahahahahaha aaa !
Secondly; There’s no such thing as a pure and unsullied ‘democracy’ in such B&W terms of either having one or not. ‘Democracy’ is basically a constant shit fight between two opposing psychiatric conditions.
One has the desire to dominate and the other won’t have a bar of it.
winston peters is a liar and sneaky little shit in my view. I remember the debacle he led , so to speak , during the wine box inquiry. That particular crooked fox was well up a tree but winston led the charge up a similar tree in a different forest.
Someone should put him in a jar and screw the lid down until after the election.
Pig muldoon trotted out abortion issues close to election time I remember so…
I think Winston needs to concentrate on the “bigger issues”, the anti smacking legislation can wait for a rainy day, looks like he starting to bark at car tyres again?
maybe if only our people that is the parents, boyfriends kept their hands to themselves and not bash the hell out of the little ones. Does sue’s bill work I don’t think so
What evidence are you basing this on? Have you checked the court records? Compared how many parents got away with child abuse of “legitimate force” technicalities before s59 with how many have since it was passed? Because if not, you are talking shit, and if you join a big enough lynch mob, you have the potential to put children’s wellbeing at risk. Check. Your. Facts. I don’t mean by listening to fucking radio muppets either.
Designed to align NZF with National perhaps?
Although I like some of the NZF MPs and some of its policies, with the exception of this one, I couldn’t bring myself to vote for the party, because it’s dominated by Winston Peters, to the extent it’s become too well known as the Winston party!
Another point that’s off putting for me, is Peters would not hesitate to take NZF over to the Nats, if the offers were good enough for him to enjoy! In fact I wouldn’t put it past the Nats in desperation, to offer him a knighthood (services to NZ and all that BS etc) to go over to the dark side, something I can’t see Peters refusing! Principle wouldn’t enter the equation!
Time for NZF to get a new fresh look, starting with a new leader. There’s plenty of talent there to lead the party and take it forward.
If the bill was actually effectual in reducing our appalling domestic abuse statistics, then I’d be all for it. But as far as I can tell not much changed. We’ve already had a referendum on this, but it was 100% ignored. For the record I have no opinion on it either way – Sue meant well, but it hasn’t achieved jack shit afaik in reducing the abuse it was supposed to help address, so I don’t really see why we should be so precious about getting rid of it (it’s not like the abuse stats will go up again, because they never moved).
See my response to Mereana Mastny above. I’ve commented elsewhere on how the referendum was not a vote against s59, and that’s not going to change, no matter how many times you and other parrots repeat the Family Fist lie that it was.
…bigger fish to fry Winston.
How about a ‘living wage’ that takes the stress of having no money away – the creation by governments of an environment full of stresses, has a flow on effect, sadly the children always take the brunt.
It would seem that Maori are bashing their offspring to death at roughly the same rate as they were before the law change.
Thats something they learnt from schools for migrants of european decent
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