He said he absolutely believes Torture works.
US President Donald Trump ignited a row over the use of waterboarding Wednesday after claiming intelligence professionals told him it “absolutely works.”
…what is more terrifying? That Trump believes torture works or that there are senior intelligence professionals telling him that it works?
There is an issue beyond the fact that torture doesn’t work, the moral and ethical revulsion most reasonable people have against the State torturing human beings demands that we reign our political leaders in when they start down this madness, yet in Trump we have a President who can’t be shamed into being a decent human being.
Then there is his ridiculous wall that will only generate more friction with Mexico and empower people smugglers and then his Standing Rock Pipeline that he just happens to have business interests in. The attacks on Abortion Rights are also scandalous.
But what is most alarming and intellectually bankrupt is his Muslim Ban.
He uses 9-11 3 times to justify the Muslim Ban…
… you’ll all not that the 9/11 hijackers were from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE & Lebanon. None of those countries have been listed in the ban.
Ironically 5 of the 7 countries Trump has banned are currently being bombed by America.
If you want to stop terrorists coming to your country, stop making more by bombing them.
Trump has rewarded the white working poor and won over their Unions, all he needs to do is play to their fears for the next 4 years and keep the new Authoritarian America terrifying everyone else.
The only way forward is to gut the Democratic Party and destroy the elites who put Hillary forward. Identity Politics demanded it was a ‘womens turn’ as opposed to ‘who can beat Trump’. Bernie would have beaten Trump, yet the Democrats rigged the Primary’s and put a war hawk neoliberal wedded to the very free market globalisation that hurt so many of the Democratic working vote in instead.
And now we have on orange Nazi running the White House.
If all those women marching last weekend had voted Bernie we wouldn’t need to protest Trump today.
Don’t you find it puzzling that following the return from holiday of our highly paid and expensively made up “news broadcasters” there haven’t been any “war ” reports. Was I asleep and missed something? Trump is pulling the US out of the UN, World Bank and IMF so that must mean he’s taking back sovereignty for the people of the US, and I hear he’s withdrawing NATO support which will leave that bunch of warmongering super soldiers without funding. As for the wall, this is what the UK Sun had to say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igFGfa6L2F0
I am not for or against the march by thousands of women worldwide, I just wish they had marched for something other than a throw away remark from someone you say is an orange Nazi running the White House. His actions so far have spoken louder than his words, which, I hope, are chosen more carefully and tempered over time.
I heard them report on Al Jazeera that Trump’s Executive Orders are at least in part going to be challenged, and may even be declared as ILLEGAL.
The first week in power is just show business time for Trump, he is showing off to his voters and followers, pretending he is a man of action and can get things moving.
Let us wait and see, how and when his Orders will be challenged in Congress and the Senate, and perhaps before the courts, as it involves constitutional issues.
A Republican majority may serve Trump, but let us also remember, some do not support many of his policies.
He’s being criticised for doing what he promised before the election…. right. He’s being criticised for doing it in a timely manner….. I’m guessing if he walked on water, he’s be criticised for not flying. People need to get over it and focus on 4 years time when they have another shot at winning.
No, Cosmicray, Trump is being criticised for being a racist, misogynistic, bigot. Remember that we have a right to criticise our leaders. This ain’t Nth Korea or China yet.
Or do you think that once elected, our leaders have carte blanche to do what they want without public criticism? Is that your world-view?
I bet that if a left-wing government was elected, you’d change your user-name and start screeching your opposition and condemnation as fast as your little Trump-like hands can type.
Democratic action and free expression are not limited to the ritual of dropping a vote into a ballot box every so many years, that is what some want us to believe though.
Trump did only win due him achieving a majority in the electoral college, which he once condemned himself as being very undemocratic. Now he is a turncoat seeing nothing wrong with winning that way, even though he did not win the popular vote.
He goes on about “America First”, “Americans” and “the people”, but refers then only really to those who voted for him. He seems to think he can simply ignore and overrule the rest of the US voters and population, by taking the actions he trumpeted about during his campaign.
Some of his Executive Orders are illegal and are being challenged in the courts now. Even the President is bound by the law of the country, he cannot issue discriminatory orders at will, and he has to abide by the rest of the law.
He has only been in Office just over a week, and like a bull in a china shop, he is doing a “great” job for some, but acts highly destructive and offensively in the eyes of most.
So your comment is just irrelevant, as the people are now taking to the streets, and protest, as that is another right in a democratic society. The US is still some kind of democracy, albeit far from ideal or functioning well, but people still have their rights to express their views.
Sorry to disappoint your pro authoritarian views.
The defining characteristic of all western nations is the imposition of counterproductive and illegal policies on the masses by the maniacs in power, maniacs in power who lied to the masses in order to get into power.
Forget Trump and focus on the illegal and counterproductive activities of the NZ government and councils, Martyn: their activities pose a far greater threat to people living here than rantings of the self-serving liar in America.
(And anyone with a brain knows 9/11 was an inside job, orchestrated by the Bush administration as a pretext for invasions.)
+100 to all of those comments …and the Post
…I would like the USA (and friends) forced to make war reparations in the Middle East and North Africa for past war crimes and crimes against humanity
…for the destabilisation in Iraq, Libya and Syria…and Palestine…and Yemen
…there does need to be the equivalent of the Nuremberg Trials
…ironic that the perpetrators of these wars are unwilling to take refugees
Trumps position on the US invasion of Iraq (before he suddenly changed his mind) –
“I’m no warmonger. But the fact is, if we decide a strike against Iraq is necessary, it is madness not to carry the mission to its conclusion. When we don’t, we have the worst of all worlds: Iraq remains a threat, and now has more incentive than ever to attack us.” (Trump’s 2000 book, The America We Deserve)
“Yeah, I guess so; I wish the first time it was done correctly.” (Interview with Howard Stern, 2002)
“Either you attack or you don’t attack.” (Interview with Neil Cavuto, 2003)
“Well, he has either got to do something or not do something, perhaps, because perhaps shouldn’t be doing it yet and perhaps we should be waiting for the United Nations, you know. He’s under a lot of pressure. He’s—I think he’s doing a very good job.” (Same interview)
“I think Wall Street’s waiting to see what happens but even before the fact they’re obviously taking it a little bit for granted and it looks like a tremendous success from a military standpoint and I think this is really nothing compared to what you’re gonna see after the war is over.” (Fox News, one day into the 2003 invasion)
“Look at the war in Iraq and the mess that we’re in. I would never have handled it that way. Does anybody really believe that Iraq is going to be a wonderful democracy where people are going to run down to the voting box and gently put in their ballot and the winner is happily going to step up to lead the county? C’mon. Two minutes after we leave, there’s going to be a revolution, and the meanest, toughest, smartest, most vicious guy will take over. And he’ll have weapons of mass destruction, which Saddam didn’t have.” (Esquire, 2004)
“How do they get out? You know how they get out? They get out. That’s how they get out. Declare victory and leave. Because I’ll tell you, this country is just going to get further bogged down. They’re in a civil war over there, Wolf. There’s nothing that we’re going to be able to do with a civil war. They are in a major civil war.” (CNN, 2007)
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/every-position-donald-trump-iraq
A dark history repeating itself!
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