Apartheid Israel’s hyper defensive and aggressive response to us for pointing out the bleeding obvious which is that their brutal occupation of Palestine and illegal settlements can no longer be tolerated by the global community is childish, ridiculous and evidence of just how deluded they’ve been allowed to become..
They have banned our Ambassador from Israel, recalled their own and are now threatening sanctions.
Too fucking bad.
Just like we did with Apartheid South Africa we can not and must not allow our pressure to come off the Apartheid state of Israel.
They need to understand that global condemnation is a significant indicator that their continued occupation of Palestine is universally unacceptable to the rest of the planet.
Right now, we should be pushing to exclude the Israeli embassy from New Zealand as a symbol that we can’t tolerate their violence any longer.
What Israel are doing to the Palestinian people is the great crime of our collective generation. The things they do every day to humiliate, imprison, mutilate and torture the Palestinian people in an economic, cultural and social manner is an abomination.
The occupation of Palestine can not, will not and will never be acceptable to the vast majority of our nations, that’s what the UN resolution showed, that’s the social justice obligation we must carry on with and Israel needs to self reflect enough to realise our collective position will not change.
Peace and a two state solution is the only step forward, we won’t tolerate any further delay.
+100 Martyn Bradbury…I have known two committed Christians who went to Israel and came back committed to Palestinian justice
Your obsession with Israel is troubling. While Aleppo is going to hell, the left says nothing. The UN does nothing. You don’t call for boycotts, for protests, for the closure of embassies. Nothing.
But you support the destruction of Israel, deny its history, and seek to undermine Jewish people.
Are you racist or misguided ?
Well, maybe you need to open your eyes, David; https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/12/19/protestors-condemn-russian-involvement-in-atrocities-in-aleppo/
Were you at that protest, David? Or any other protest to support the people of Aleppo? Or are your tears from a self-righteous crocodile?
As for the rest of your blame-gaming, the same could be said of Israel’s oppression of the Palestinian people. Open your eyes. Stop blaming others for your countrymen’s bullshit, oppressive policies.
This is what you should be doing;
ref: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/jews-stage-massive-anti-war-protests-tel-aviv-new-york-elsewhere.html
That’s a good link , Frank.
Always sticks in my craw when people try and make the term ‘ Jewish ‘ and ‘ Zionist’ synonymous. Most Rabbis are dead against extreme Zionism. And a person does not have to be a Jew to be a Zionist .
They are two completely different definitions. One denotes a follower of the Judaic religion or a person of that race , the other denotes a particular ideology.
Personally – Im pro Israel. But not the maniacal leaders who are leading Israel at present. On one side there is the Israelis who are treating their neighbors shabbily ie: the Palestinians, on the other are still hostile country’s that want to ‘ drive Israel into the sea’.
They all share the blame. Its hypocritical for Israel to carry on in exactly the same manner as Hitler did to them ie: genocidal political practices and policy’s. But Israel is stuck in a hard place… surrounded by country’s that would only love to annihilate them simply for existing … then again… its easy to see why they would with the way that Israel is carrying on.
Just a shame all sides just cant cool it and all work towards prosperity for each other. That’s my naive wish , anyways…
Yeah 12 people turning up to protest is hardly a movement.
Israel is not perfect, but it is preferable to the oppressive, barbaric fundamentalists that surround it.
ISIS, who decreed Belgium as a crusader nation, and deserved to be attacked draws no moral condemnation from you. It seems that you hold the Jews to an entirely different standard.
Israel has been home to the Jews for nearly 4000 years — despite Romans, Saladin, the Ottoman Empire and the British Mandate.
Israel does not operate an “Apartheid”. Can I refer you to the conclusions of the High level Military Group’s report into the 2014 conflict in Gaza.
A conclusion of the report was
“. We can further be categorically clear that Israel’s
conduct in the 2014 Gaza Conflict met and in
some respects exceeded the highest standards we set
for our own nations’ militaries. It is our view that
Israel fought an exemplary campaign, adequately
conceived with appropriately limited objectives,
displaying both a very high level of operational
capability as well as a total commitment to the
Law of Armed Conflict. The IDF not only met its
obligations under the Law of Armed Conflict, but
often exceeded these on the battlefield at significant
tactical cost, as well as in the humanitarian relief
efforts that accompanied its operation. ”
Can I suggest that you stop being a propagandist for Hamas, stop denying not only history but reality.
Another person who criticises what I’ve written without actually bothering to read it. There were three dozen people attending, which is not bad considering it was called with about 24 hours notice.
I repeat my question, David; what have you done for the people of Aleppo, or Syria?
Also not to mention the Mossad coming to Godzone and forging passports in our dead people’s names.
Bibi has no compunctions whose law he breaks – Geneva Convention or our sovereign laws.
This will not end well for him.
It’s alright Frank ,I’m on your side!!
Oops! Sorry, no Garibaldi, I was referring to something else… So many fora on the internet, hard to keep track!
David, RYC;
So, a Report commissioned by the Israeli military; to look into the actions of the Israeli military; came to the conclusion that the Israeli military “not only met its obligations under the Law of Armed Conflict, but often exceeded these on the battlefield at significant tactical cost, as well as in the humanitarian relief efforts that accompanied its operation “.
Really?
Marvelous. All exquisitely reassuring.
I look forward to the report commissioned by Imperial Tobacco that cigarette smoking is not harmful to our health.
that quote is like the Luftwaffe critiquing its own air raids.
+1
That was similar to what crossed my mind as well.
So an objective review, and you take issue with it?
You’re taking the piss, right?
I know its hard for you to grasp that there is another perspective
David, you must think we’re pretty dim to swallow your garbage that a report commissioned by the Israeli Army into it’s own activities is in any way “objective”.
I can write my own report and that would be “another perspective”.
You have provided the clearest example why your government has so little credibility.
Here is what I think. The last 6 posts on the Daily Blog have been about Israel. 6 Posts? Why is the NZ left so obsessed?
Kick out the embassy? Please. The same suggestions are not made of Syria, of Russia, or China.
The report was not written by Israelis, it was written by an independant panel, some members had not even been to Israel before. But, as it doesnt fit your narrative, and runs counter to the anti-Israel propaganda that you speak, you seek to undermine its credibility.
This is the great bigotry of our time. It is overt, and to me, deeply troubling.
I am not a Jew, nor Israeli. I am a New Zealander who has been appalled by the overt racism shown by the NZ left. What will you do next? Protest a young woman playing tennis who happens to be Israeli? Oh thats right, that has been done.
My sincere fear is your next suggestion will be to require Jews to wear identification, perhaps the star of David. History has a horrible habit of repeating itself.
David, I refer you to your own description of that report you quoted from;
You described it as a “High level Military Group”.
Your appear to contradict yourself. Please provide a link to that report so we can ascertain the validity of it ourselves.
For the ame reason New Zealanders were “obsessed” with ending the Vietnam War, halting atomic bomb tests at Mururoa; ceasing sporting contacts with Apartheid-Era South Africa, and fighting to become a Nuclear Free Country.
It’s called doing the right thing.
As for the rest of your assertions, you will bear with us if we don’t take your claims at face value. Coming from an anonymous poster they are meaningless.
The High Level Military Group (HLMG) consists of military leaders and officials from NATO and other democratic countries exploring the challenges of 21 Century warfare.
The High Level Military Group was formed in early 2015 with a mandate to address the implications for Western warfare of fighting enemies who disregard the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) but exploit our own nations’ adherence to LOAC for their gain.
http://www.high-level-military-group.org/pdf/hlmg-assessment-2014-gaza-conflict.pdf
It must be nice living under your bridge…
David last time I looked there were at least 60 laws that Israel has that discriminate against Arabs. Is this not apartheid or what? Any report carried out by the people involved is a joke. Just like the IPC in Aotearoa.
So, David, tell us what you’ve done for the poor buggers suffering in Aleppo? I’d love to know.
I have made modest donations to the plight of Syrians
to David..
Ending segregation in the American South (I grew up in Virginia when whites and African-Americans had separate school systems) didn’t DESTROY the South. Ending apartheid in South Africa didn’t DESTROY South Africa.
Ending the ongoing sadistic oppression, including destroying Gaza’s water supplies, including appropriating West Bank aquifers , wells and springs.(as the Sioux have said “Water is Life”) of the Palestinian people will not DESTROY Israel.
Israeli anthropologist Jeff Halper put it well when he said, “Nobody, nobody, nobody, including himself, has the right to claim to speak for all Jews. ”
Many, many Jews are repulsed by the actions of the Israeli regime.
Here you go dave …… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ
Here here Martyn.
There is a huge difference between Jews and Zionists (the latter, until Trump’s arrival, controlling all things – well almost all). As the cabal controlled media are cleaned up, I strongly believe that we will be shown that Russia actually liberated Arabs, Palestinians and the Jews alike. Here is my copy/paste contribution:
http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2016/12/slap-geopolitical-overview-december-27.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ascensionwithearth%2FkRNq+%28Ascension+with+Mother+Earth+and+Current+State+of+Affairs%29
My only query of the accuracy of this intel is a question mark over the head of Paul Ryan as it may well be Pizzagate might just catch him out just like our dearly beloved ex-leader. We shall see.
“beloved” – rare black humour Helena.
If Israel has declared war against us, does this mean we will start seeing fake !S!S attacks? we still have not had satisfactory answers about the presence of security agents in Christchurch in 2011.
Talking of apartheid,: I am not sure if my memory is still sound but I seem to recall that when virtually all the nations of the world turned against South Africa, one nation stood resolutely alongside it. That state was Israel.
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This ones for Andy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5XlEZoi1c …. its a video which shows the reality of Israels occupation …
I had registered that Marty wrote some good stuff about public broadcasting in NZ. But with his recent pieces about Israel, Martyn has completely discredited himself in my eyes. And the level of ignorance and hatred of Jews and Israel on this thread is truly discouraging.
Any nation that encourages its military to destroy vital infrastructure on someone else’s land;
destroy farmlands;
cause delays for people needing to get to hospitals;
firing live rounds at kids playing football on a beach;
disappear kids under 18;
etc and so forth; is a nation in need of international condemnation and sanction.
The religion is irrelevant. Totally. Playing the victim card is despicable. Simply a means to stifle justified censure.
There are very decent Israelis who are disgusted by the way their volatile governments treat their neighbours. ‘Not in our name’.
How would it be, Sue Boyde, if you made the separation Martyn has?
Not ‘Jews’.
A vile and bullying government backed by a military without honour or decency, and a bunch of radical, often American by the accent, ‘settlers’ who were too late for the days of the wagon trains and oppression of the First Nations people, but are itching to romantically ‘stake their claims’ on someone else’s traditional lands.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.
Where is this “hatred”.
Comment on genocide, annexing land, and other atrocities is hardly hatred
In case readers missed the excellent Australian documentary that shows how Israel tortures Palestinian CHILDREN , it can be viewed here:
http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.co.nz/2016/12/video-proof-that-israel-tortures-non.html
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