One, and let’s be honest it really is all that we can cling to, one thing that is good to have come out of the Trump tragedy is that there is a clear halt now in America to free market corporate globalisation.
Trump is a ‘self made’ businessman and his economic sovereignty is more akin to Winston Peters than Hitler.
What does that mean directly for NZ?
No TPPA.
PM John Key accepts little chance US will agree to TPPA, after Trump win
Prime Minister John Key appears to have given up hope the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) will be ratified by the US following Donald Trump’s election as president.
Opposition to the Pacific trade pact was a key part of Trump’s election campaign.
On Thursday Paul Henry asked Key: “TPP’s dead in the water isn’t it?” to which Key said the chance of it being ratified in the US now was “if it’s not zero, it’s very close to zero”.
Soz John Key, no allowing American Corporations the ability to rob us of our political sovereignty for you champ. All the sucking up to Obama has been for nothing.
Trump doesn’t owe the usual Republican Corporate Overlords anything for his victory and his need to reverse the free market trans national nightmare that have hurt his huge working male electorate outweighs their interests.
Sucks to you John Key.
I still have a strong suspicion that Trump will tinker with the TPPA, declare it to be “fixed” and in America’s interest to “create more jobs” and then allow the Republican controlled Congress and Senate to pass it.
Unfortunately, Martyn, I do not share your enthusiasm that the TPPA is dead. Not by a long shot.
Let’s not forget that first and foremost, Trump is a capitalist. C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-T!!!
I would like to extend my own “HA HA F**K YOU KEY AND SHOVE TPP UP YOUR A$$”.
Yay, I’d be stoked with no TPPA. Here’s my example of why I dislike it so: It’s about a corporate case in Italy (Tuscany?) where the Golden Archers Monstrossity (MD’s) are sueing a local council for not approving their application to set up shop ($26m?). The council, I believe, are protecting their region with a law requiring the use of local products within eatery establishments.
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy eating MD’s when i do but I don’t subscribe to giving them (corporates) power over my elected representatives and I also don’t expect my elected representatives to hand them (corporates) power by agreeing to something like the TPPA either.
Poor old John. His close friends and minders in Wall St will be pissed.
But hey, Key gave it his best shot for them.
lol to this POST…yeah nah….TPPA is dead in the water!
…for the time being anyway
….thanks Donald, you just saved New Zealand from greedy jonkey Nactional , who would sell his own Grandma
Sorry, Chooky, wrong again.
Donald Trump’s position is not anti-globalisation. It is economic nationalism.
If he can stuff us to advantage the US, don’t you think he will?
Why do we oppose TPP? Yes, that’s right, because it stuffs us and advantages the US.
Look for a TPPA 2.0. One that is certainly not going to be better for us.
And the “offer we can’t refuse” setting won’t have changed.
Plus the protection racket obligation to buy more US stuff for our military will be stepped up.
Plus all the other (endless) negatives are still in place.
Don’t kid yourselves, unless Trump proves to be a Democrat in disguise – not totally impossible, although even if he is, he is likely to be prisoner of the Republican hawks – this election is entirely bad for us, apart perhaps from a few more “respite tourists”.
apparently in his younger days he was a Democrat
….why do you think the Republican hierarchy don’t support him?( eg Bushes support Clinton)
….he is NOT one of their own and he is NOT bought
…I think he is genuine when he says he does not want trade deals that are bad for USA workers…and that also means other workers
It would not suprise me if Key and McClay dont try and salvage it without the Americans.
A number of other countries signed and supported the idea and if the TPPA is dead then why continue to push it through parliament.
Dont be surprised if its not re worked.
Key was determined that this proceed and has been pushing this agreement that would be harmful for New Zealand and its working people not that should stand in the way of huge corporate profits , its never bothered him before (Warner Brothers Sky City )
The Republicans have control of the senate and congress so are in a powerful position and did not promise anything to anybody during the election except what they were against and that was Trump.
TPPA NO WAY.
I still think that after the dust settles Key should be investigated for treason and that NZ Inc should be kicked out with new clean governance put in place.
Yes, Crooked Key needs to go, we need to “make N.Z, great again”
i think the whole national party needs to be investigated for corruption
At least it may buy NZ sometime to kick the treasonist NatZ out in 2017…unless of course that election is rigged too?
So why did the silly Members of Parliament debate this a few days ago?
Preparing for an unknown goal!!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/86394563/nz-to-carry-on-preparing-for-tpp-despite-latest-blow
From what I can gather there is thought in Washington DC that Trump wont make it to the inauguration and will stand down before or after for Ryan who’s now “rumoured but since confirmed” to have quavered and sold out to the corporate cabal. Once Ryan took the Presidency the TPP would be pursued and perhaps this is the briefing with instructions that kept Key going down the road. Sorry jonkey but the rumoured news (now confirmed) is that the TPPA aint gonna happen whether Trump succeeds or not and Ryan will be missing from the picture. Spooky, huh, jonkey!
In nearly 20 years of supporting the opposition to neo-liberal “trade” agreements, there’s one thing I almost never see. Any debate about what kind of international agreements and institutions we do want. Corporations can push for agreements on free access to privatize government “service”, or US-length copyright protection, or patents on software and life forms, or whatever serves their bottom line. Why can’t we push for an international agreements on things we want to see, like a universal minimum wage, or the freedom to organise in trade unions, or a UBI paid for by a multi-lateral system for taxing multinational corporations, or an international carbon tax, or nationalization of all fossil fuel companies?
Corporate “globalization” takes advantage of the fact that its opponents alternative vision is too often based on going back in time to the hard state boundaries and economic boom times of the post-WW2 era. That world system emerged in response to a particular set of conditions, and for a whole range of reasons, including the ones AFewKnowTheTruth dooms and glooms about, it’s not coming back. For the same reason “nation-states” are not going to break up back into city-states.
The only viable alternative to corporate globalism is internationalism (ie enlightened nationalism), not isolationism (ie xenophobic nationalism). Sovereignty needs to be grounded in rational, cooperative governance of the environment at the bioregional level, provincial government based on ecological and cultural boundaries. Arbitrary “nations” like New Zealand are actually externally imposed states, containing a multitude of nations (both indigenous and tauiwi), and this is why the NZ state is so easily used to impose foreign rule; that’s precisely what it was designed for!
Imagine if every community was governed by representatives that lived within a easily traveled distance, so they actually live and work with the people they represent on a regular basis. Imagine if Aotearoa was a federation of such sovereign bioregions/ provinces, cooperating for mutual benefit on matters that affect the whole island group. Imagine a Pacific forum that was a federation of island groups, similarly cooperating for mutual benefit, and so on up the scales.
These are the sorts of longer-term visions opponents of corporate hegemony need to share, and debate, and figure out how to realize. Unless and until we figure out how to fill the international space they colonize with something democratic, we will always be fighting the MAI/ TPP/ RCEP/ TISA under one aphabet soup of initials or another.
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