As the Daily Blog first predicted the internal polls have now filtered out to the mainstream polls and TV3’s latest poll shows National on 45% and Labour/Green at 44.2%
NZ First are down to 8%
The biggest change that has occurred is that the media now are obliged to represent Labour and the Greens as a block, which in tern changes voters attitudes. We report Political Polls like sports results, and month after month, year after year people have been told National are on some huge percentage while Labour struggle. Now the mainstream media are obliged to announce them as a block, it changes the voters perceptions.
TDB first broke these internal polls and our understanding is the next set of them has Labour and the Greens ahead of National.
Now the big external polls are starting to show what has quietly been happening for months now, watch as National prepare for a blood letting over the Summer holidays. As the Polls continue to melt for National, Judith Collins will start making moves.
I wouldn’t be surprised if leak of something offensive John Key said to Cameron Slater wouldn’t suddenly appear in the next few months.
You can read things occurring first on TDB, or you can see it a couple of months later in the mainstream media.
I think the Panama Papers still has a lot more to play.
National will lose more votes when people realise Joe Biden came to NZ to tell Key to push the TPPA because its falling apart in USA.
Key agreed to more USA ships including nuclear so that USA can block China in the Pacific ,so making NZ a target in a war.
Key just hands us over to USA without question.
ELLE,
Certainly we should hand him back to the US penal system once we convict him of crimes against the state!
We want him to serve 20yrs at San Francisco’s favourite Jail on the rock!
So we know where he is rotting, as we sail though the harbour, and give him the fist of rage since he has wrecked the country.
He deserves no less for the agony and death he has bestowed upon us all.
Folsom.
Folsom would be a better place , so I hear.
And then we could welcome Mr Kim Dotcom into this country properly like he should have been in the first place.
100% WK,
Keyster always had been a crafty kid at placing the blame on others to protect himself so he is so shifty Folsom would be good for seeing him rot there if the inmates don’t rearrange his toxic brain first.
You got to give key credit at least he does it with a smile…..
Are you talking about when Key is pulling pony tails and playing with little girls hair doc ?????
He’s very proud to be that sort of man ………………….
Or pissing in his shower… and did we really need that information?
Remember NZ , he also got booed off twice publicly, its not as if he was all that popular in the first place . It was just that it amazingly found its way through the MSM.
If the MSM had been a real one, Key would have been a goneburger like he is now years ago.
This latest result is probably why I had a visit from my local National minister yesterday. Said he was just about the neighborhood handing out his card. Told him not to hang around as I had a nasty virus he might catch. On reflection I should have invited him in as it appears to be contagious.
Maybe the results of all of Nationals failures are starting to take effect.
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Martyn you say “I wouldn’t be surprised if leak of something offensive John Key said to Cameron Slater wouldn’t suddenly appear in the next few months.” Like you know about something is about to be released.
I’m still waiting for the Panama scandal Martyn was promising ages ago… Still no news…
I think we will see the fruits of that research about 3 months before the 2017 election.
Martyn i bloody hope it works better than 2014.
After watching Keys arrogant performance in the house today it would be good to see the smile wiped from his face.
@ Mosa … yesterday’s performance in the House was farcical to say the least. By Question 3, I’d had enough. I could see how the rest of the session was trending, so gave it away. Will give it another go today, but I’m not expecting any great improvement!
Key and his mob are a disgrace to the nation. Their antics in the House are about as classless and as crass as it can get. And the Speaker endorses this disgraceful behaviour from Key and National, very rarely chastising government ministers and MPs!
People have had a guts full of this unethical and lying PM.
Watch the polls go further down for a govt. that is out of touch and out of date. A govt. by and for the mega-corporations and not by and for the people. A govt. that has done far more damage than good.
Voters are finally ! ! ! waking up.
Where is the massive outrage over Key allowing nuclear ships into our harbours ? Where is the outrage over the U.N.’s Agenda 2030 and their ownership and dictating to most world govt.s ? Don’t point the blaming finger at the U.S. – Point it at the real culprit – the U.N. and their partners in crime : NATO ; IMF ; World Bank ; UNESCO ; International Court of Justice : World Health Organization ; Security Council and so so many more.
I wont believe Key is finished untill he resigns or is defeated at the general election.
His demise is often predicted but never eventuates.
Great – Judith can take the reins and ride the Nats straight down the toilet for all I care, for how they have treated New Zealanders.
Sorry, good news or bad – I don’t have a lot of faith in TV 3’s ‘News blub’
One step at a time, if we continue at this pace, we will throw Key out in late 2017! Good riddance, at long last, I’d say.
One swallow does not a summer make
I see you conveniently ignore the previous poll – but hey, if it gives you hope then I suppose it’s not all bad. 😉
Little still hovers around 10% in the preferred prime minister stakes.
Really Andrew? This might be of interest to you; https://fmacskasy.wordpress.com/2016/05/30/the-slow-dismantling-of-a-prime-minister-downward-slide-continues/
Key’s Preferred Prime Minister rating has gone from 55.8% (October 2009) to 36.7% (24 May 2016). So even his much-vaunted “blokey” persona is taking a hit.
The bloke who can’t swing a hammer.
Down , down , down , ANDREW , its going down, … and we are not that concerned with Key… its the rest of the circus hes trying to hold together that’s giving Key the problems…and the circus act is getting pretty old now.. after 9 years of the same tired old act even Key will be ready to retire.
And btw … a PM’s popularity means zilch if his support act have been seen to progressively been wanting in the fundamentals of even governing a country in the peoples best interests – which is exactly the situation the voters are seeing now.
Oh Andrew, don’t you just hate it when Frank shoots you down?
By any chance are you referring to that rogue poll that even Hooton believes is rogue? If so you are probably the only one who thinks it is true Andrew
Winston has been preferred PM in many polls over the years, but he’s never had a chance at actually being one because the party he leads has never been popular enough. In an MMP system, the perceived popularity of PMs is pretty much irrelevant. Focusing on how well people respond to Key’s baby-kissing has consistently been used to distract from the appalling performance of this National government as a whole, and the various scandals that has plagued its ministers. Sorry Andrew, but this will not work forever.
As it is, National only just holds onto power by running exactly the multi-headed monster its election ads accused the opposition of. Except that National is propped up by three one-man parties with party votes in the margin of error, whereas if Labour had formed a government, it would have been with a party or parties that represented at least 5% support of those who voted. In MMP multi-headed monsters are unavoidable, but they should at least be representative of the electorate.
I have always found a glimmer of hope in the fact that DESPITE
(a) the phenomenal bias in MSM,
(b) the extremely well funded campaign budget backed by their corporate cronies,
(c)the protection of the various Nazional-supplied Speakers of the House and the Nazional-appointed Heads of faux enquiries,
(d) the distractions of World Cups, Earthquakes, “Global Financial Crises” etc, this bunch of characterless, spineless, crooked troughers and psychopaths still rely on rorting the MMP system and doing deals with such notable statesmen as Peter Dunne to keep their grubby hands in power. Alas, but for some different tactics by the Opposition in the last election and we would have seen these betrayers of working and poorer Kiwis out on their backsides.
The only people who support ’em are the ones who simply don’t think or don’t care. And many of them are the product of 30 years of Neoliberalism.
Whether enough awaken from their Netflix-induced torpor to make a difference at the most important Poll in 2017 remains to be seen. But yes, there’s always a glimmer of hope.
Just to see King John kicked out of his job would be a victory. That prick is EVIL EVIL EVIL. Then we can start on the rest of the sociopaths like Bennett, Smith, and so on. But start with Key.
Well I disagree.
Start with the minions first. They are the best way to let them hang themselves – and Key with them.
The amount of ammo they provide to shoot themselves has been astoundingly rich.
Pull yer Bennefit , Dildo , the Double Dipper , in through the security door EQC Brownlee, Saudiman McCulley , Dirty exhaust pipe live in a van Smith , Orivida Collins , Bridges Bridges , Peddle the Private schools Parata , …and by the way …just where is Jason Eade?
Look… start with the minions and work your way up. And look on the bright side,… they do 95% of the work for us. Pick them off one by one.
Keys just a figurehead. So collapse the base and he goes with it.
Game over.
Didn’t Key promise at the 2011 or 2014 election to step down if he ever lost?
Something to look forward to!
Key’s gloss is beginning to tarnish. Good news 🙂
Found the Newshub poll item half way down the page on NZH this morning, which is surprising. I doubt a year ago anything threatening towards or not complimentary for Key would have been published at all and if it had, it might have been found hidden somewhere down the very bottom of the page, almost out of sight. Hmm … is msm starting to wake up and see the light? Could be.
Hmmm as Andrew mentioned, no post on TDB about the last poll that had National up 10% (must have been another rogue one), and because it suits political leanings this poll has it’s own post :)…delicious irony that it’s a TV3 one…you know the station everyone should boycott and it’s rotton to the core, except it seems when a favourable poll comes out, delicious hypocricy at it’s finest, the left do hypocricy so well!
HA ! …the fact of the matter Keys on his way out along with all his accident prone cronies…
And if that smarts… better think of shedding some of those houses matey… because as sure as God made little green apples they sure aint gonna be thinking of your little piggy bank when they get the boot in 2017.
It amazes me that some people have this weird notion that after a govt’s had 9 years in power the cracks are not going to show… the sad part is you folk had better get used to the idea. The most dishonest govt in New Zealand’s history is coming to a rapid end.
And most of us feel just fine about that.
As they say, Imright, it’s the trends that should be considered. A single rogue poll showing a 10% leap for National, Labour, or McGillicudy Serious would be meaningless.
By the way, if you’re going to use the “h” word so freely, it’s actual spelling is ‘hypocris y’.
We’ll see what the next round of polls show, eh?
Winnie for King
Be wary of Complacency …. Polls are only good as indicator(s) of trends, not predictors of a win. The messaging is what matters and Housing, Ed, Health …. Bread and butter issues and a few middle-class (Housing) worries addressed will do the trick. No Stamp Duty on your home you live in permanently?
Peaking too soon. National have a while before the election to pull a few things out of the hat, and they will, guarantee it. whether it will be enough only time will tell but only a fool would get complacent or smug yet.
Like… 100,000 houses?
Touchè
And remember. Vote national for tax cuts AND power cuts https://www.facebook.com/CheckpointRNZ/videos/1767431830165912/
Gotta say Andrew Little and his performance in the house as on TV3 news this evening on housing was pretty impressive. National on the other hand was pretty useless, those interlock devices for cars to stop drunk drivers driving (just get your mate to blow into it) and their non action on Urber drivers whereby legit drivers have to get the appropriate licence but Urber seem to flout the law and the govt is doing little about it. A good day for labour today.
Missed it, unfortunately. (I’ll check it on the internetty thing.) Re the interlock devices, I recall a while ago seeing an experiment (Youtube?) whereby an attractive young woman (in America) asked strangers to blow into an interlock device in a car she wanted to start. She gave the explanation that she was a “convicted drunk driver”. Most of the passers-by consented to her request.
And remember vote national for tax cuts AND power cuts https://www.facebook.com/CheckpointRNZ/videos/1767431830165912/
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