In a recent Radio NZ “Morning Report” interview, National MP, Mark Mitchell, revealed the government’s true objective with the so-called “TPPA Roadshow” and Parliamentary Select Committee hearings. Behaviour by other Select Committee members has also drawn harsh criticism by some members of the public who attended the sessions.
The Roadshow and Select Committee hearings are being held by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFAT) and Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Select Committee (respectively) to seek public submissions on the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement, aka, the TPPA;
More than 330 people have asked to give their views on the controversial trade treaty to the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Committee in person.
The committee will hold hearings in Christchurch on 31 March and 1 April, and in Auckland the following week, before returning to Wellington, where it has already heard some submissions.
Committee chair Mark Mitchell said there would be more than enough time for the hearings.
“I’ve made sure that we allow plenty of time, so that’s going to allow us enough time to be able to hear everyone that wants to make an oral submission to the committee.”
Mitchell, the Chairperson of the Select Committee, was defending the shortened reporting time of the Select Committee back to Parliament. As Mei Heron reported for Radio NZ;
MPs have been given just five days to consider hundreds of submissions on the controversial TPP trade deal after the timeframe was drastically cut from four weeks.
The select committee was originally give a month to write its report and present it back to Parliament.
Opposition MPs were furious at the sudden change and they called it an attack on democracy.
The trade deal has already been roundly criticised by its opponents for being too secretive and lacking consultation.
The Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Select Committee had been hearing submissions on the TPP from hundreds of people across the country and that will continue until the end of the month.
But opposition members on the committee say they were told yesterday the government wanted to cut down the time they had to analyse the submissions, so the legislation could get through by the end of the year.
Predictably, Opposition members of the Select Committee expressed dismay and anger at National’s unilateral change of the Committee’s timetable, with Green MP, Kennedy Graham, roundly condemning the move;
“It’s just a slap of indifference and dismissal of some very sincere, very capable and hard-working New Zealand people. It shows it up for what it is – which is essentially a ‘roadshow’ with a predetermined end.”
Graham’s assertion that the public submission process “ is essentially a ‘roadshow’ with a predetermined end”, is confirmed after a startling admission by the Committee’s chairperson, Mark Mitchell. On “Morning Report” on 8 April, Mitchell vented his obvious frustration with the New Zealand public;
“I think, I think some people are very set in their views. And to be honest with you my feeling is that it doesn’t matter what evidence we provide or how we try to balance the information that could allay those fears, they’re already set in their minds. They’ve decided what position they going to take and it’s going to be very hard to probably move them of that position. But there’s other people that are just genuinely worried about it because there has been some misinformation put into the public debate. And often when they get the full story, and of course the Minister’s done a very comprehensive, um, series, at which he’s continuing to do public meetings throughout the country. I think he’s in excess of about 30 or 35 now. Is that people actually just wanted to have some proper information around the TPP.”
Mitchell complained that “it doesn’t matter what evidence we provide or how we try to balance the information that could allay those fears, they’re already set in their minds” and “they’ve decided what position they going to take and it’s going to be very hard to probably move them of that position”.
For perhaps the first time in the history of the Westminster Parliamentary process, a member of Parliament has suggested that the Select Committee process is no longer a forum where the public offer submissions for their elected representatives to listen and consider. Instead, Mitchell’s comments indicate that Select Committees are now viewed as useful tools for dissemination of “proper information around the TPP” for the public and businesses.
A Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade website page appears to echo Mitchell’s views on the purpose of MFAT’s travelling “Road Shows”;
The Government will run a number of events on key TPP outcomes. These will be aimed at ensuring businesses are able to prepare to take advantage of new opportunities presented by TPP’s entry into force, and to provide information of interest to the wider public and other stakeholders. These events follow the extensive public consultations carried out during TPP negotiations.
The Government is running TPP roadshows on the outcomes of TPP for New Zealand. Members of the public are welcome. The roadshows will also help businesses prepare to take advantage of new opportunities presented by TPP’s entry into force.
However, the agendas of both the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee’s submission process and MFAT’s “Road Shows” is not shared with the Parliamentary Office of the Clerk;
The Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee is now calling for public submissions on the TPPA and the four related intellectual property treaties. Each treaty has a national interest analysis which sets out the advantages and disadvantages for New Zealand of becoming a party to it.
You have until Friday 11 March 2016 to share your views about these documents with the parliamentary select committee by making a submission.
The committee will consider the written submissions it receives and they will be posted on the Parliament website when released by the committee.
The committee is also expecting to hear from submitters who wish to speak to their submission. Committee staff will contact those submitters to organise a time for them to speak to the committee. Hearings may take place outside of Wellington depending on the number of submitters from each region.
Mark Mitchell seems not to have received the emailed memo from the House Clerk.
The “Road Shows” have also drawn criticism from the way they have been carefully orchestrated. From a Radio NZ story;
Albert-Eden Local Board member Graeme Easte said the event was more of a show and tell, in which Trade Minister Todd McClay and the senior negotiator described what they were doing.
“It was very much pro the agreement,” Mr Easte said.
“Even though half the questioners were clearly sceptical or anti, there wasn’t really an opportunity for a discussion or a debate.”
A member of the public complained that the “Road Show” was being held at a time guaranteed to minimise public attendance;
One placard holder, a teacher, has slipped away from school and down the road to make that point: “Let’s consult widely with the public. How about on a Monday morning when everyone is at work? Yeah right!”
Blogger, ‘SkepticNZ’, related his experience at the Dunedin Roadshow event;
Now attending a Roadshow is not as simple as popping along. In fact in order to attend you have to first register via the MFAT website.The good people at MFAT no doubt in the interest of open debate and inclusion have the following requirement upon interested citizens to gain entry.
You will need to bring photo ID (e.g. passport or drivers licence) in order to collect your name badge when you attend the roadshow. You may not be permitted entry to the roadshow unless you present photo ID.Entry to the roadshow on the day is entirely at the discretion of the event organizers. Disruptive, threatening or offensive behavior will not be tolerated and may result in you being required to leave the venue.
You must comply with the instructions and directions of the event organizers. You may be required to leave the roadshow if you do not do so.Right, have you got that? before you can enter Mr McClay’s ‘open debate, informed discussion’ you first have to agree to doing what you are told.Being a curious and dutiful citizen I prepared my identification, completed my registration, and printed off my MFAT confirmation including individual Bar Code, and off I went to the show.On arriving at the Venue in Harrop street, I was greeted by some very friendly people keen to hear my views about the TPPA, and happy to give me information sheets. But enough about the protesters, onto the front door.The front door itself was guarded by a heavy police presence supported by private security contractors from Amourguard. A young man from Armourguard asked for my photo ID and then told me I wasn’t on the list and asked me to stand to one side while they check if I could enter. Which under a watchful Police eye I did.I didn’t have long to wait before another slightly older young man from Armourguard came to speak to me and ask if I had my registration form, which of course I did. After a moment of reading my licence, checking my registration , and checking my licence again I was allowed in the door.Hallelujah I haven’t had so much scrutiny to enter a door ever in my life. Not even as an under age drinker in the last century, nor at Passport control at Heathrow, have I ever faced such close observation and suspicion. Crikey there must be something really really important inside.Inside the door was more police, and more security, and a desk to register to attend the day. I must say the folks from Orbit (Event Staff) were genuinely friendly and helpful. In a very short time I was given my ID Card and lanyard and direct to the stair well. Apparently the Lift was out of order. This was when yet another Security Officer asked to search my bag. Being a good citizen I handed my bag over. Apparently my pen and paper and Banana for morning tea did not constitute dangerous items and I was allow to begin my long climb up the stairs.The climb itself was uneventful except for the presence of Security Personnel on every landing carefully watching our every move to ensure we went were we where supposed to.Upon reaching the top floor I was greeted by even more security staff and a lobby to wait in. The lobby contained some MFAT TPPA Fact Sheets and that is about it.After about 10 minutes of standing and being watched we were all allowed to enter the conference room itself.I must admit by now my expectations where very high. After all why have a small army of security guards if there wasn’t something spectacular inside?
SkepticNZ’s experience is worth reading in it’s entirety.
Another member of the public, Tim O’Shea, who was presenting a submission to the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Select Committee on 8 April in Auckland, became upset when he realised that “thirty minutes in, and two National MP’s are missing“;
Acknowledgement: Image courtesy of Tim O’Shea
Tim also complained that “of the three who are here, [National MP] David Bennett… spent more time looking at his smart phone than he has spent listening to oral submissions.” [See image above]
Tim has lodged a formal complaint with the Foreign Affairs Defence Trade Committee chairperson;
“On Thursday I observed that the hearing was well attended by those on the Select Committee, and that all submitters (whether pro or anti the TPPA) were dealt with in a predominantly fair and courteous way. All attending members showed respect for those submitters by making a clear effort to listen to, and look at, the various submitters. The day was a long and busy one – i.e. there were many submissions, and very few unplanned interludes and gaps between the submissions.
On Friday, several submitters expressed their dissatisfaction and disappointment at how few government committee members were in attendance compared to the previous day. I counted just three (including the chairman), compared to five who attended on the Thursday.
That in itself, however, was of less concern to me than the rude, discourteous and totally disrespectful behaviour shown by one of the attending committee members, namely National MP David Barnett.
Despite the fact that the hearing didn’t start until the relatively leisurely time of 10:00am, Mr Barnett clearly felt, as the attached photo that I took at 10:22 shows, that looking at his cell phone was far more important than listening to, or looking at, the first THREE submitters !
It wasn’t until part the way through the third submission that Mr Barnett eventually put his phone down.”
When Tim asked David Barnett “to put his cell phone down for ten minutes to show some courtesy and respect“;
“The chairman, Mark Mitchell told me that I should not address committee members directly in that way, and that the members had other important work to do during the hearing – I responded that I also had work to do, and that the least he could do is listen to me and show some respect.”
“As I continued to the end of my submission, David Barnett showed complete and utter contempt by looking at his cell phone for the whole time that I presented, showing no interest at all, and not even looking up at me. Chairman Mark Mitchell said nothing about it whatsoever.’
The complainant claims that Committee Chairperson, Mark Mitchell then criticised Tim for his “bad behaviour”. According to Tim O’Shea;
“Mr Mitchell then told me that he didn’t like the fact that I stood up to do my submission.”
In an obviously increasingly tense atmosphere, another Select Committee member, Labour’s David Shearer, was allegedly over-heard referring to Tim as an “arrogant twat” to fellow-committee member, Green MP Kennedy Graham.
The complaint is on-going.
Whatever purpose the “Road Show” has, it clearly has upset members of the public. According to comments made by Mark Mitchell, and repeated on an MFAT website, Green MP, Kennedy Graham was correct when he condemned the exercise as;
“…essentially a roadshow with a predetermined end.”
Certain MPs seem to hold the attitude that they are not so much highly-paid civil-servants, elected to represent us in Parliament – but instead “members [who] had other important work to do”. These MPs forget that they hold office at our pleasure.
The clear perception is that public participation is not welcome at the “TPPA Roadshow” or Select Committee.
The farce surrounding the TPPA continues.
|Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Select Committee||Role||MP Name||Party, Electorate|
|Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade||Chairperson||Mitchell, Mark||National Party, Rodney|
|Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade||Deputy-Chairperson||Reti, Shane||National Party, Whangarei|
|Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade||Member||Bennett, David||National Party, Hamilton East|
|Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade||Member||Graham, Kennedy||Green Party, List|
|Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade||Member||Muller, Todd||National Party, Bay of Plenty|
|Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade||Member||Ross, Jami-Lee||National Party, Botany|
|Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade||Member||Shearer, David||Labour Party, Mt Albert|
|Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade||Member||Tabuteau , Fletcher||NZ First, List|
|Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade||Member||Tisch, Lindsay||National Party, Waikato|
|Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade||Member||Woods, Megan||Labour Party, Wigram|
Trade Minister Todd McClay appears to be labouring under an illusion when said;
“But you’ve got to remember it’s been over seven years or more of negotiation, so not all of that consultation or engagement will be remembered.”
MFAT repeated the fantasy;
These events follow the extensive public consultations carried out during TPP negotiations.
One of the most trenchant criticisms of the TPPA is that there was no public consultation carried out during the negotiations. It was all done in secret.
In fact, Professor Jane Kelsey won a court case on this very issue.
So one has to wonder how Todd McClay and MFAT can make the startling assertions that there was “extensive public consultations carried out during TPP negotiations“.
Too soon to be re-writing recent history, yes?
National MP, Mark Mitchell, is closely connected with far-right activist,Simon Lusk, who runs (ran?) a private, self-styled “candidates school” for potential National Party candidates. Amongst those National MPs linked to Lusk are Taupo MP Louise Upston, Maungakiekie MP Sam Lotu-Iiga, Napier MP Chris Tremain, disgraced former list MP, Aaron Gilmore, and Minister Judith Collins. (Lusk, in turn, is associated with “Whaleoil’s” Cameron Slater; “Kiwiblog’s” David Farrar; and “Taxpayer Union’s” Jordan Williams.)
To Tim O’Shea, for kind permission to use his material (images, quotes, etc) and for proof-reading my story to ensure accuracy.
Radio NZ: Over 330 ask to have say on TPP
Parliament: Select committee begins examination of TPPA
Ministry of Foreign Affairs & Trade: Trans-Pacific Partnership – Events
Scoop Media: Select committee begins examination of TPPA
SkepticNZ: Inside the #TPPA Roadshow Experience
Facebook: Tim O’shea – Submission
Facebook: Tim O’Shea – Facebook Post
Radio NZ: TPP requests – Groser acted unlawfully
Fairfax media: Seriously happy to upset the status quo
Bryce Edwards: Invite to Selection Training Weekend
Bowalley Road: Protecting The TPP
No Right Turn: Government propaganda on the TPPA
The Daily Blog: Josie Butler – Why I attacked the TPPA roadshow
The Standard: TPPA review time slashed
Wheeler’s Corner: TPPA’s Road-show SEAN PLUNKET tongue flaps
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