Waatea 5th Estate Ep 1 – TPPA – political, economic and sovereignty issues with Professor Jane Kelsey and Marama Fox

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Toasting revolution on the night of our first show

Join hosts Willie Jackson & Martyn Bradbury with panelists Professor Jane Kelsey & Co-leader of the Maori Party, Marama Fox to discuss the political, economic and sovereignty issues of the TPPA.

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  1. The tide got bigger alright. So did the big boats get bigger. And the little boats smashed gets pushed on to the rocks as the tide comes in

  2. Very good. Enjoyed it. Video and sound quality was quite good. The programme was educative and enjoyable. Well done. Looking forward to more episodes. Definitely prefer this to the mostly crap offered on TV1 & TV2 at 7.
    Cheers!

  3. Good show…but would have been good to look at why the rebuild in Christchurch and associated issues on the 5th anniversary plus have a look at the young turks for a hat hitting informative and entertaining alternative to msm to get the message out…..just saying

  4. A very good start to political debate being presented by Waatea 5th Estate and TDB, it will be a success, I trust. We need to spread the news that we now have this true current affairs program here, so that more will follow it and get informed about what really matters.

  5. Brilliant at last some educated discussion via the Blogsite Media, rather than the clickbait bullshit we get from MSM!!!

    Keep it professional and keep the quality up.

  6. Always liked Willie Jackson despite him being a wind up merchant, keep up the good work guys, Fairfax will want to buy you out?

  7. This should be mainstream broadcasting. It certainly puts the so called present “current affairs” motley crap to shame.

    Well done and thank you to everyone concerned in putting this great show together.

  8. Great work guys! Still confused with the Maori party’s take on things – Marama talks the talk – but in reality the Maori party do not walk the walk? Guessing they figure it’s better to be in power than out of it – but recently they voted with National to sell off state housing? Huh? How are they actually helping Maori? I would be interested to know.

    • Yep, agreed. The Maori party speak with forked tongue, they are not walking the talk, they continue to prop up the corrupt and treasonous Key National government. In my humble opinion, a vote for the Maori Party is a vote for National, and I would like to see them gone at the next election.

        • “they give us some money so nah, all ok” Money for whom? OK for whom?
          You like the National bastards so much you prop them up to cling to pseudo power while they sell us all out. Walk the talk, otherwise it’s just empty hollow words.

  9. Hypocrite Marama Fox and the Maori party voted for the key National government to sell off thousands of state houses, possibly displacing many more people. They have been propping up the key government for almost 8 years now, and average Maori have sunk deeper into poverty and Te reo has declined markedly in those 8 years. Marama Fox often lies about “gains” if the truth were to be told, any gains would be on a personal level rather than for the greater good for the populace.

  10. Everyone was so polite, and went out of their way not to offend Marama Fox, instead did a bit of Labour bashing in place of holding the Maori party to account. The way Willy Jackson talked, is he a rightie?

  11. Good to see a topic given more than the usual (at the most) 7 – 9 minutes. Also good to see is that the show didn’t fall into the “let’s make it entertaining by having two diametrically opposed people shout over each other” trap, but instead opted for a “more light than heat” approach.

    Lighting could benefit from a warmer colour temperature that that makes people look less pale and wan (compare the still with the video).

    And someone please tell Willie and Martyn to sit on their respective coat tails! But very minor quibbles… excellent start!

  12. You have my attention and support
    every night at 7.01
    At last an interview where the guests
    get to reply without the usual rude interruption and talk over we get with MSM and the usual so called expert opinion shoved down our throats
    Needs some promo for the deluded silent majority
    Great start.

  13. ” Not content with their supremacy over “democratic peoples,” the One Percent has come forward with the Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Pacific partnerships. Allegedly these are “free trade deals” that will benefit everyone. In truth, these are carefully hidden, secret, deals that give private businesses control over the laws of sovereign governments.

    For example, it has come to light that under the Trans-Atlantic partnership the National Health Service in the UK could be ruled in the private tribunals set up under the partnership as an impediment to private medical insurance and sued for damages by private firms and even forced into abolishment.

    The corrupt UK government under Warshington’s vassal David Cameron has blocked access to legal documents that show the impact of the Trans-Atlantic partnership on Britain’s National Health Service. http://www.globalresearch.ca/cameron-desperate-to…/5504306

    For any citizen of any Western country who is so stupid or brainwashed as not to have caught on, the entire thrust of “their” government’s policy is to turn every aspect of their lives over to grasping private interests. ” Paul Craig Roberts

    ” Bonnie Faulkner: What is the aim of the Trans-Pacific Partnership Treaty and how is it at odds with the Asian Infrastructure Bank, the AIIB?

    Michael Hudson: I could give a glib answer and say the aim is to reduce the population by 50%, to starve people, abolish pensions and spread poverty. That actually is the effect.

    The cover story pretends to be about trade, but the real agenda is to force privatization and disable government regulation. This reverses what was central to the whole Progressive Era. For the last 300 years, the assumption of Europe and North America was that you were going to have a mixed economy, with governments investing in infrastructure, roads and other transportation, communications, water and sewer systems, gas and electricity. The role of government infrastructure was to provide these basic needs at minimum cost in order to promote a low-cost, competitive economy. That’s how America got rich. That’s how Germany industrialized and how the rest of Europe did. But the aim of the Trans-Pacific Partnership is to reverse and privatize public investment. Its ideology is that the economy should be owned and operated by private owners, private enterprise, whose aim is short-term profit.

    There are a number of related aims: to nullify environmental protection regulations that cost money, to nullify protection of labor, and to nullify attempts to tax natural resources or economic rent. The idea is to turn roads and the transport system into toll roads, which will be owned by foreigners and run at a high charge. The Internet and the water system will be sold off and made into toll systems, to charge for their services and for other basic needs. This will impose a neo-feudal rentier economy throughout the world as the finance, insurance and real estate (FIRE) sector takes over the government sector.

    I think you could say that at the broadest level, the idea is to roll back the Enlightenment and restore feudalism. That may sound like an extreme statement, but people don’t realize how radical the TPP’s investment agreements are. For instance, when Australia raised the charges on cigarettes and included health warnings on the packs, Philip Morris sued, insisting that Australia pay it what Philip Morris would have made if people would have continued to smoke and get cancer at the existing rate.

    When Ecuador tried to sue oil companies for pollution, the oil companies sued, and now the country has to pay the oil company the amount of profit it would make if it continued to produce oil by polluting the land – to an infinite degree. No government anywhere in the world that signs this will be free to regulate the environment or even to enact new taxes on rent-seeking or other private enterprise.

    Essentially, the new buyers of the roads, the water systems, the sewer systems, can use these as rent extraction opportunities without anti-monopoly regulations. That means they can charge whatever the market will bear, and treat foreign countries sort of like New York City cable customers are treated. I live in Forest Hills in Queens. We have one supplier, Time Warner. If I want cable, I have to pay what they charge, and it has nothing to do at all with their cost of production. I have to rent their cable box, not buy one of my own.

    That’s what economic rent is. It’s a revenue above the cost of production. For hundreds of years the economics of Adam Smith, David Ricardo, John Stuart Mill and Thorstein Veblen wrote about how to create an economy that would produce everything at its actual, technologically and socially necessary cost, without any free lunch, that is, without any kind of unearned income (“economic rent”).

    The aim of the Trans-Pacific Partnership and its European version is to promote unearned rent extraction. Rentier interests have backed a body the kind of junk economics to replace classical economics, against the Progressive Era and social democracy, to create a right-wing ideology that they call free trade. The term is Orwellian doublethink.

    Bonnie Faulkner: Have these rulings by the World Trade Organization been enforced against these countries you mentioned, such as Australia?

    Michael Hudson: I think Philip Morris failed, but it forced the government to spend tens of millions of dollars in legal fees. It’s almost impossible for a poor government like Ecuador or even Australia, to spend the legal fees that it costs to defend themselves against a battery of corporate lawyers. Under the TPP, the referees would be drawn from the corporate sector and its law firms.

    The judgments and rules are made outside of government and outside of laws that voters enact. So corporate oligarchy replaces democracy. Decisions as to how much governments will have to pay corporations in compensatory damages are made by a small group of referees in a revolving door with the corporate sector. In effect, they will work as lobbyists for these corporations. ” http://michael-hudson.com/2016/02/the-commanding-heights/

  14. Fantastic! Did not manage to watch it live but was able to view it today – so love the format and the flexibility on when you watch on the Internet!

    Congratulations!

    p.s Would like to see better links on TDB site just for Waatea 5th Estate so you can link from the home page and it is clearer direct links.

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