After losing heavily in New Hampshire, the Clinton team was optimistic about Hillary’s chances in Nevada, South Carolina and beyond. They said Bernie Sanders would hit a firewall, built mainly around the Clinton’s appeal among non-white voters.
The Nevada result sent a mixed message to the Clinton camp. Yes they won and, yes, they got the bulks of the Black vote, but it seems Sanders won a majority among the Hispanics who attended the Democratic caucus. That was quite an achievement, which augers well for later contests in California and the south-west of the US.
In his concession speech Sanders pointed out that momentum was still with his campaign. In only five weeks they’d narrowed the gap in Nevada from 25% behind Clinton to less than 6% on caucus night.
Sanders has been expanding his national vote, from around 30% (averaging the main polls) at the beginning of the year to 42% now. As he goes along he is sweeping thousands of young people into his campaign team.
Most of those exit polled in Nevada put Bernie well ahead of Hillary for “caring”, “honesty” and “trustfulness”. The main barrier to a bigger vote seemed to be his perceived lack of experience at a top level (compared to Hillary) and a fear he couldn’t prevail over a Republican candidate.
Yes, Clinton does have more experience at top level (such as at Secretary of State) but this cuts both ways. While many older voters might see this as a plus, many younger people see her ties with the establishment as a negative.
Also, the polls show Sanders has a better chance than Clinton against either Trump or Rubio – something many Democratic voters have not yet grasped.
The Sanders’ train his still picking up steam everywhere, and will probably make gains on Super Tuesday, March 1, when several states have their primaries. The results will be mixed. Super Tuesday might come too soon for the campaign to have had enough impact in Black communities despite Sanders’ policies (such as a $15 minimum wage and reform of the criminal justice system) being so relevant.
Why even mention the American political circus?
it’s all a rigged game, just like in NZ but more so.
If the Wall Street and the international banking cartels want Hi-Liar as president so that she can start WW3 for them, then Hi-Liar will be installed.
Vote rigging and adjustments to electronic voting system results are so easy these days.
Actually I find the US elections fascinating! Highly entertaining very educative filled with high drama.
Fox News is great to watch even though it is Republican focused.
Yeah, as we go into South Carolina and Super Tuesday, the Black vote becomes more important. But so far it has been the older voters who have been Clinton’s ‘firewall’. Sadly, this will continue…
I do not think that Bernie was expected to beat Clinton in Nevada or South Carolina, even though the most recent Fox poll gives Bernie 47% support Vs 44 to Hillary Nationally!
The results of March 1, the super Tuesday with several states holding their elections, will be crucial.
Here is a short clip of duration 1:57 about Bernie and question ‘are the business leaders. concerned about Sanders lead among Democrats?’ Feb. 19, 2016 – CKE Restaurants CEO Andy Puzder on Bernie Sanders’ lead in the polls over Hillary Clinton.
http://tinyurl.com/hfz3ngp&c=c5c5c139&v=3
My first instinct when i heard Clinton had won in Nevada was that it was rigged. The establishment want her as their pick ,Bernie Sanders would’nt kow tow as she would.
Clinton says Sanders dos’nt have the experience, but hes been around politics a long time.
The corporations are going to pull out all the stops to help Clinton win.
And don’t forget the super-delegates…..
I think Bernie is the best candidate for the presidency.
He has no political baggage and most importantly he does not rely on big money donations it’s all raised at the grassroot level he is not beholden to corporate interests and agendas
The real battle if he wins the nomination will be getting elected
on a socialist agenda
The media and right wing will do their upmost to destroy him and like here they have huge resources to do the job.
In the long run that will be a good thing.
The issues he has campaigned on won’t go away.
Its his own constituency who will decide future elections and the more they are denied the more they will agitate for something better.
Sanders is fighting against not ONE but TWO Clintons!
The 2008 Nevada caucus results were:
Clinton 50.82%
Obama 45.09%
Edwards 3.71%
2012 (98.7% reporting)
Clinton 52.6%
Sanders 47.3%
Clinton beat Obama in Nevada by 5.73%; but who got the 2012 nomination in the end? She only has 5.3% over Sanders so far (the final results are taking a long time to come through, I’m sure Iowa was quicker to 100%).
First 2012 should be; “2016 (98.7% reporting)”, second should have been; “who got the 2008 nomination in the end?”. Got to remember to check for typos better on this site (never seem to get the edit option these days).
A mixed message
Translation: Shillery won
https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/sliver-clintonvsanders-1.png?w=575&h=1453
Right hand column is expectations that have to be met for Bernie to be winning. Expect him to lose a lot over the coming month, but if he survives to the month after that then things get interesting.
Interesting link, thanks!
Strongest expected outcome for Sanders: Vermont, where he’s known and trusted by voters
Strongest expected outcome for Clinton: Washington D.C., where she’s known and trusted by lobbyists
it is all rigged against Bernie! I hope all his grassroots support pulls him through.
As Bernie says “I can’t do it but We can!”
I’m not sure this means anything, and the numbers need to be put into perspective. Around 11,000 (pop. 2.8 million) TOTAL turned out to vote in Nevada for Hillary and Bernie. In South Carolina 191,000 (pop. 4.8 million) turned out to vote JUST for Trump! Just think about that for a second.
My two cents worth on this; I think because Bernie has the smart youth and Occupy Movement vote, the lid will blow in America if Trump or Clinton gets in. They know they are the same. The Clintons are donkey deep in corruption. Trump or Clinton will try to knock off the smart youth Sanders voters in a war saving the land of the free ‘homeland.’ The youth will not fall for this. Then we will see the big fat baby boomers get very uncomfortable as the reigns of power get ‘yanked’ off that generation.
Bernie Sanders needs to succeed I think or it will be a civil nightmare for the ‘comfortable’ status quo who don’t see why change is necessary or even let it happen without cheating and manipulating to win at all costs. Or staying willfully blind to America’s plundering and murdering to keep the empire of the free, fat, oil, fracking fuckwits ‘comfortable.’
Also Sanders will dismantle the banksters, if he does’t get in I think things will be destroyed by anarchy.
This election line up except Bernie is a true nightmare of epic stupidity.
This is the end times of this insane culture obviously if that line up can happen outside of a spoof movie. Everyone should be terrified.
If anything is going to be left of planet Earth for future generations then people need to start pulling down the system built by these stupid plundering, lunatics or nothing will be left at all not even our species I believe. That starts with the worst death cult ever American culture. The youth know this.
Intel / Rumours are 22 Feb, 7 am CST mass media event rumoured to announce US Republic, Global Currency Reset and US gold-backed Notes.
Not sure if at same time Obama and Biden will resign as Pres and V.P. of the U.S. Corporation, leaving General Dunsford, who recently survived an assassination attempt, in charge. This means almost all of Congress (with the exception of 64 + 1) will probably be arrested for treason, genocide, fraud, extortion, child trafficking, drug trafficking etc etc. Looks like Bernie is the only one with no skeletons in the closet. I wonder where this leaves our PM, his TPPA, and Helen Clarke who spoke in favour of U.S. Corporate Power taking control of N.Z.
But, of course, this is just Intel /Rumour and discretion required by the reader.
Bernie Sanders is definitely campaigning on the right issues, same issues we have here in New Zealand
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