Anti-Maori Facebook page despicable racism

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As we approach Waitangi Day – here’s and example have how much further NZ needs to still go, an anti-Maori Facebook Page

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…Founded on the 1st December, it is hateful in its depiction of Maori. Here is what it says…

We’re committed to ENDING all pandering to the Maori elite & activists lodging never-ending Claims of anything that will given them money or power!

This is a new page only started a few weeks ago but we have a goal of initially attracting 1,000 Likes (members) all committed to our goal of ENDING the ongoing insanity which is Maori claims. Initially it was land claims but we all know it has now evolved to gifted seats on councils/boards of influence & power, claims for water, rivers and lakes and even the air and sky!

Join now as we will be lifting the profile and actions of this page in 2016. Please jump on board, join the revolution, tell your friends to join and lets see if we can fight back and put a STOP to this craziness! ENOUGH is ENOUGH!

…it is a hate site and should be pulled down immediately. It has disgustingly racist posters and incites hatred.  Complain to the Human Rights Commission here.

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    • The sites great. It tells it like it really is. From 9 genuine claims back in the early 1800s, they have now morphed in to more than 2500 claims for everything from water to radio spectrums. its a sham and even Maori know it is.

      so tell me Bradbury, are Maori that speak up about this sham racist too? Or are only white skinned people racist for daring to speak up against the courrpt treaty tribunal and the never ending treaty gravy train?

      I dare you to go tell Ngaphui leader David Rankin he’s a racist. I double tripple dare you.

  1. It is not a hate site. It is a point of view you happen to find offensive. I disagree with the sentiments but have no desire to see the post censored any moth an I wish to censor those who chant ‘fuck John Key’or those who write song about what should happen to JK’s daughter. If you believe in freedom of speech you just have to put up with rubbish like this.

    • If you believe in freedom of speech you just have to put up with rubbish like this.

      Not at all, Ben. Freedom of speech cuts both ways, including voicing opinions that it is a hate site. Freedom of speech allows views to be challenged, criticised, condemned. Freedom of speech is not a license to say whatever, without challenge.

      • Wasn’t aware any one is, or is being threatened with jail time. People can say what ever they like can’t they. There is a please Facebook take down this page for hate speech button.

        • ” People can say what ever they like can’t they. ” – Sam

          Really? So you don’t mind if I go up to your wife in the street and tell her she’s got nice boobs, and I’d like to cop a feel?

          Hey, free speech – I can say what I like, right?

      • That’s fine; challenge the views by all means but don’t try to censor the views by shutting the site down.

        • Why not, Ben? Those on the Right try to censor views and policies by advocating closure of organisations such as the Waitangi Tribunal, Ministry of Women’s Affairs, and anything else that clashes with their views.

          So it’s a bit rich when you complain of the same, coming from the Left.

          Aside from which, Hate speech is illegal and for good reason. Hate speech isn’t just an expression of views, it is an attempt to shut down entire sectors of society based on race, religion, etc. Hate speech isn’t concerned with issues per se; hate speech usually targets individuals or groups, based on specific characteristics. That is why hate speech is anathema to real free speech.

          • 1. Just because they do it doesn’t mean we should.

            2. This really isn’t hate speech. It is distasteful for sure, and likely driven by some racist sentiments. Saying it is a hate group though (A very serious charge) diminishes the effect the word has on denouncing real hate groups and makes people take them all the less seriously.

            • Thing is, Jorus, where you draw that line for what is/isn’t a hate group.

              It’s easy to be dismissive of defining a group as hateful because you’re unlikely to be targetted by it.

              Point is, Jorus, that a hate-group doesn’t have to advocate outright violence.

              All it needs to accomplish is create a climate where a group is demonised; hate grows; and others believe violence is an acceptable option.

              We see it every day in the news, whether it’s lone-wolf attacks in the name of ISIS or anti-abortionists shooting/bombing abortion clinics.

              Even here in New Zealand, a lone-nutter (?) had sufficient hate against unions to plant a bomb at Wellington Trades Hall, on March 29, 1984, instantly killing Ernie Abbot.

              I wonder what speech the bomber heard/read that created in his mind the motivation/justification to undertake his act of terror?

              Anyone who thinks words do not have power is sadly mistaken. Words and the ideas they convey have resulted in the birth of religions and political movements, as well as the deaths of hundreds of millions.

              History is replete with examples of the power of words.

              After all, if words had no power, political parties and businesses wouldn’t spend millions advertising themselves.

              • FRANK: Thing is, Jorus, where you draw that line for what is/isn’t a hate group.

                And that is exactly why all hate speech legislation is a slippery slope to censorship!

                I’d rather put up with endless odorous opinions than give anyone in government, including the judiciary, the right to arbitrarily shut down opinions.

          • I’m with those that say this isn’t “hate” speech (not that I agree with it). In many ways this is similar to Martyn’s anti-US TPPA posts imo (which I fully agree with). Let alone all the anti-Zionist posts over the years (which I also agree with btw), which are in essence to warn of “the Jewification of Palestine”, right?

          • You do that Sam. You and Ben are right in my view. To paraphrase,’I disagree with what they say, but totally defend their right to say it.’

      • Sorry, Frank, you’re advocating censorship – something the Left are all too good at demanding. I may find the site offensive, but it’s not promoting violence, etc, so…in the name of free speech, let it be.

  2. If you’re going to be a knuckle-dragging racist arsehole, sort out your grammar at the very least. People are going to laugh at you for your ridiculous prejudices anyway — adding “semi-literate troglodyte” to your arsenal of vices is just giving them more ammunition.

  3. Frank is correct. It is the democratic right for people to express their views. It does not mean we have to agree but in this case you might be surprised how many would. Some people probably think some things said on this site should not be allowed but if you start banning people’s views you are on a slippery slope as far as democracy is concerned. Think of your blood pressure rising Martyn if you were unable to slag off John Key!! Same principle applies.

  4. It’s pretty ugly stuff and reminds me of the Don Brash political advertising he used ….Ansell was the anus who designed the racist slogans last time.

    Greedy rich old white men using racism.

    The dog whistles they use have to get louder and more piercing as from memory a poll had only 10% of New Zealanders believing John Key is honest.

    Which got me thinking that only 10% of New Zealanders have the delusional ‘bent key syndrome’…..

    But then I realized the diagnosis of this disease also included those who trust or support him despite knowing he’s telling them lies.

    Having one of the two G’s …… Gullibility or Greed, predisposes ones odds of having Bent Key Syndrome dramatically.

    It is not to be confused with Keyzhiemers disease, which is like Alzheimers …….. but it allows the sufferer to choose what they forget.

  5. Hell no! Leave it up, grab some popcorn & watch them as they expose their ignorance & supremacy. Remember The Pakeha Party? Same shit, different bucket.

  6. This is pro-TPPA issues, it sounds like there’s a fight on to get NZ to hate Maori so that if they fight back against the TPPA, they believe nobody will care, no-one who matters anyway. I feel as though it has govt backing, but that’s just me.

  7. Hah! Methinks you are all panicking a bit too soon.

    Check the site out and look at all the negative comments about the page. More against it than for it.

    It’s gonna implode under its own prejudice…

  8. It is quite easy to dismiss that that page Martyn, but when you find you cannot take your daughter to the beach because the iwi elite you like so much has blocked off access you will be changing your tune.

    • Has that actually happened to you? Please be specific.

      Don’t you think that we have much more to fear from the capitalist elite?

      And I wonder how the Maori feel about the settler elite…

    • Only Maori rednecks close off areas similar to Pakeha rednecks, a lot of Pakeha land is closed off to the NZ Public however as soon as Maori do it the white man and the NZ Press jump up and down and start squealing.

    • Citation Millsy?

      Because pakeha can already own Riparian rights in certain areas. Case: Lake Orakei Korako, where a rich-person’s resort has “Guests Only” signs on their lake-side beach.

  9. Come on. It is a distasteful page but if this is hate speech the definition has been taken too far. Needless calling it a hate sight diminhses the impact the word has for real hate groups and makes people take them less seriously.

    • I don’t bother with Facebook and won’t be visiting the page mentioned but I too have had enough of the ‘maorification of everything’, to use the referenced terminology.
      Maori are too happy to declare their belief in their myth and legend eg:Taniwha, when it benefits them to do so, but try citing their myths when it might not be so advantageous to them eg: Patupaiarehe as a starting point for a discussion that Maori actually might not have been the first people of this country and see how a myth suddenly loses its significance.
      And who else would vote into parliament a candidate who referred to another race as the white MFs? If a politician of any other race were caught using such stomach-churning language they would have been forced out.
      Maori are very racially biased.

        • No, they didn’t need to be taught how to be racially biased or shrewd. They’re not unusual human traits.

          • Blake, you’re full of it. Maori have suffered at racism in this country since Pakeha first landed here, seized their lands, burned their villages, raped, brutalised, and killed their people, and last century, punished children for having the temerity to speak their own Te Reo?

            And you have the gall to call Maori “racially biased”??

            You really are a piece of work.

            • Seizing lands, burning villages, raping, brutalising, and killing their people. Tiss, you could easily have been talking about Maori who did those things very effectively and with much gusto.
              Yes, Children were punished for speaking Te Reo, but the full and true story of the how and why has been taken out of context and is fast evolving into a ridiculous myth that’s trotted out when the treasured wound needs a good poke.
              Yes – Maori are very racially biased.

                • I’m rewriting history. That’s another thing Maori are very good at trying to do.

                  Professor Paul Moon, on the farcical Waitangi Tribunal’s report on the Ngapuhi claim that their chiefs did not cede sovereignty said:

                  “This report may serve the interests of some groups, but it distorts New Zealand history in the process, and seriously undermines the tribunal’s credibility. I was shocked by some of the statements contained in the report. This is not a concern about some trivial detail, but over the fundamental history of our country, which the tribunal has got manifestly wrong.”

                    • Which bit exactly is racist rubbish? Professor Paul Moon criticising the Waitangi Tribunal?
                      If so, why do you think it’s racist rubbish?

                    • Hi Sam

                      Not so quick answer

                      It’s interesting when someone resorts to this kind of comment. It’s similar to calling someone out on their grammar or spelling and it looks as if they’re attempting to make up their own inadequacy.

      • Seems to me, Blake, that you’re trying to validate and normalise racist views.

        I notice that very few people here defending that page are criticising the racist content it carries. It’s like they not only support the page, but endorse it’s prejudice.

        As usual, this kind of shit brings the racists out of the closet.

      • Blake & Jorus – isn’t it interesting that so-called supporters of free speech will; leap to the defence of nasty, racist garbage like this FB page while at the same time attacking outspoken activists like Sue Bradford, smearing her personal life, denigrating her, even threatening her with rape or death.

        Just sayin.

        • What?? You’re sounding rabid.
          I don’t know who it is that’s defending this FB page and attacking Sue Bradford – it isn’t me, I admire her so your comment is lost on me.
          I’m not defending that FB page, I visited it once to see what all the fuss was about but I am fed up with the “maorification” of everything.

  10. The irony is it seems the same people that object to the “Maorification” of everything have no problem with the overseas ownership and corporatisation of everything. New Zealand is unique as it is the only country in the world with a formal agreement recognizing the rights of indigenous people. I hope Maori claim everything they can and retain as much of New Zealand as possible, for all New Zealanders.

    • I am more concerned about the Chinafication of Auckland and the Americanisation of Government here in NZ at least Maori will preserve the assets that have not already been sold or stolen.

      I think most Pakeha misunderstand Maori as they do not understand or have never been taught NZ History?

  11. This site should not be closed down. This would be a breach of the right to the freedom of expression . For me it will prove to be a source of humorous entertainment where I may visit a blog and read the ” redneck ” opinions and content written by ” fruit-loops” who in their first publication show an arrogant almost arcane ignorance of that tonga , The Reaty of Waitangi.
    Who knows before long we might see a lynchmob fomenting dissent in Aoteroa toting their weapons and behaving like ” good old boys”.

  12. This post is even more pathetic than the facebook page itself.

    If you don’t like it, don’t look at it.

    Sure if it was advocating violence I could agree, but ffs, it’s just some ignorant rednecks venting who now thanks to you have just had some free publicity.

    • Speech doesn’t have to advocate violence, Jollo. It can create a climate whereby violence becomes acceptable.

      The Nazis promoted their campaign against Jews with “Mein Kampf”. Just words, right?

      • Oh please stop with the hysterical hyperbole in trying to defend Martin. You are just embarrassing yourself which is a shame.

      • Ok, I had to actually go and look at this Facebook page to see what it’s about – quite bland considering all the fuss.
        Comparing the Enough Is Enough Facebook page to Mein Kampf as a tool to advocate violence is wide of the mark I’d say.

        Umberto Eco on Mein Kempf;

        “Mein Kampf is a manifesto of a complete political program. Nazism had a theory of racism and of the Aryan chosen people, a precise notion of degenerate art, entartete Kunst, a philosophy of the will to power and of the Ubermensch. Nazism was decidedly anti-Christian and neo-pagan”

        Although not really related to this discussion, anyone interested in the entire article on Fascism by Umberto Eco can read it here.
        http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf

    • “If you don’t like it, don’t look at it.” – is not a viable solution, Jollo.

      You’re advocating burying our heads in the sand while racists spread their toxic message and attempt to normalise racism?

      No thank you. I’ll fight that kind of sickness at every turn!!

    • “If you don’t like it, don’t look at it’ = do nothing about racism.

      No, Jollo, that’s not good enough.

      Turning a blind eye to evil is condoning it.

  13. Millsy should know the greedy tax criminals who support Nationl/Act are usually rich white men.

    They deny access to beaches and lakes they also own private Islands.

    A lot of their land was stolen by confiscation or taken by other means.

    It is also Nationals shortsightedness and Greed that has lead to our rivers being so polluted with fecal matter ( cow shit ), that our children or pets get ill if they swim in them.

    The milk boom that National pushed has now gone bust.

    A lot of farmers are now in the process of going broke …… the chinese will probably buy their farms ……….our rivers are getting more and more polluted, Nationals response was to lower the water quality regulations…..

    Allowing rivers to be so polluted that it is dangerous to swallow any of their water is acceptable and been made legal under john Keys nats.

    We have too many cows thanks to the nats riding the dairy boom this economic mismanagement is polluting and destroying our environment.

    Attack politics are what the Nats use to divert attention from themselves and racism has worked well for them in the past so I’d be very surprised if they don’t stick with it.

    I recommend watching ‘The hollow Men’ to see how they did it before.
    http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/the-hollow-men-2008

    John Key features a lot in and you can see him telling lies about Nicky Hager and also how he was involved in the Exclusive Brethren $ 1 million attack advertising campaign.

    This documentary also highlighted to me how much John Key has carried out the Brash doctrine and methods ………

  14. I imagine the mainstream media will be going to them for comments everything to do with Maori comes up, much like the Tax Payer’s Union

    • This is Hate Speech http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11570050&ref=NZH_FBpage Vandals spray paint ‘retard’ on special needs school

      When people spray, with intent and hate in mind, to threaten violence and label a group as less to then it is Hate Speech, it is Disability Hate Crime. However the press and school put it down to mindless vandals making them complicit in my mind to the crime and allowing Hate Crime and hate speech against a group that have a limited ability to respond.
      Get on board with this issue and support a group who face every day abuse in New Zealand.

  15. If its ok to have such a site, why not have an ‘Anti Pakeha’ site. Mehemea, ka tuhituhia to korero ki te reo, kaore nga Pokokohua katoa e mohio nei he aha to korero. Ka nanakia atu ki a Hone Kii me tana whanau kararehe hoki. He whakaaro noa iho. Just my freedom of speech… #aotearoa

  16. Correction to my last misspelled Taonga. These rednecks need to learn that the Treaty is not a rear vision mirror. Kawanatanga and Te Rangitiratanga are probably over their heads, as they will be buried up their sorry vanilla arses. Observe this site for reminder of entrenched ignorance.

    • Vanilla is brown so were you were meaning brown arses or were you meaning white arses and do you see your own racism?
      In my experience racism comes in every shade of neck – not just red.

      • Blake, what you’re really trying to do is justify pakeha racism buy claiming “everyone else does it”? Is that it?

        If that’s your justification, your moral position is bankrupt. mI might as well go out and commit crimes like murder, rape and robbery because everyone else does it.

      • I meant white arses. Are you colour blind , or have you not tasted chocalate???

        ” general blake ” you have NO idea what my racial connections are.
        I will give you a clue.!!
        I am a Pacific Islander. Think laterally about that one.
        W. !!!!!

        • I wonder, if someone had used ‘chocolate arses’ to refer to Maori in the same way you have used ‘vanilla arses’ as referring to Pakeha, would you have thought them racist and would many of the posters here called them out for being racist?

          I don’t pretend to know your racial connection is.

          • You might call me a ” Black Celt “. In fact I am a NewZealander, and a proud one at that.
            Since the islands of NZ lie in the Pacific , I might be termed a PI.

          • You might call me a ” Black Celt “. In fact I am a NewZealander, and a proud one at that.
            Since the islands of NZ lie in the Pacific , I might be termed a PI.

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