Big Bro’ is Watching You!





This piece by Dita DeBoni on TVNZ’s website is worth re-posting in it’s entirety – just in case it ‘mysteriously vanishes’ into the ether. Not that I’m implying the New Zealand is now more-or-less a quasi-Police State…


Dita DeBoni Privacy right is not a right when not 'right' - nicky hagerWhether it be information about our household digital television account, or my child’s ear infection medication, or a text message, say, sent by a Prime Minister to a highly prominent sportsman or blogger, “privacy” is often the reason trotted out for stonewalling.

Sometimes it’s legitimate. Goodness knows what might happen if a complete stranger paid my household bills for me, or felt inclined to impersonate me at the chemist.

And do we really need to know that the Prime Minister and prominent All Blacks are in cahoots over the new flag design?

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Some might say yes, but I reckon I could have figured that out by the sheer number of photographs we’re subjected to day after day featuring them gazing adoringly into each other’s eyes.

It seems the main reason a journalist – or even a citizen – is denied ‘official’ information much of the time is either that releasing it is going to unleash a torrent of (metaphorical) excrement, or getting the information you’re after would be a pain in the posterior for the person being asked for it.

The exception to this is if the police are asking.

It now seems as though certain institutions are more than happy to hand over incredibly personal financial and other information if the plod request it, even if they’ve skipped the part where they’re supposed to get the proper legal documentation to do so.

Some institutions actually wait for a formal, legitimate request before complying with police fishing expeditions.

Others, notably Westpac Bank, do not.

We know this because it emerged this week that Westpac handed over 10 months of data from three of author Nicky Hager’s accounts when police were investigating the hacking of Cameron Slater’s blog and social media accounts at the end of 2014, willingly complying with detectives who simply explained it was part of their investigation into ‘criminal offending’.

There is nothing whatsoever to suggest the criminal offending they were investigating was anything to do with Nicky Hager.

Hager began the investigation as a ‘suspect’ but became simply a ‘witness’; he is not accused of stealing anything.

He did what good journalists do on a daily basis – was given information on nefarious wrong-doing that he believed the public needed to know. Then he published it.

He’s been treated extraordinarily for a witness in such a case – had his house raided for ten hours, had personal files uplifted, been wire-tapped, had his records requested from as many as 20 different companies and sources, and been vilified by the government.

But whether you like Nicky Hager or not, whether you agree with what he set out to do or not, there is something rotten about the way the police acted in the case – and something profoundly out of order about the way Westpac Bank rolled over and gave away Hager’s bank records and other personal information on the strength of an unsupported request by police, without even telling their client they were doing so – which is also something they are required to do.

It now emerges Nicky Hager has complained to the Privacy Commissioner about what’s happened and also wants a ‘full and frank’ disclosure from Westpac.

It will be more than anyone else has had. Westpac say they won’t comment on what they do with customer information because it’s an ‘internal policy’.

Again, you may think Nicky Hager deserved the treatment he’s had. You may not agree with him in general.

But remember that whatever treatment’s been handed out to him can be handed out to anyone with the ‘wrong’ connections, the ‘wrong’ information, and the ‘wrong’ intentions.

Privacy increasingly seems to be only your right if you are on the ‘right’ side.

In case anyone has missed the point, Dita DeBoni’s column is a direct warning to the citizens of this country.

When the security apparatus of the State – in this case the New Zealand Police – can access private and confidential details without a search warrant, then we have reached a truly frightening stage in our nation’s developing history.

The only place where police have had such unimpeded access to the private information of citizens has been – up until now – the province of military junta-controlled regimes; Soviet-style “people’s republics”; and various banana republic dictatorships. Think of Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Pinochet, Papa “Doc” Duvalier – it’s a very long list. (And I haven’t even gone through the entire 20th century!)

Though New Zealand is not *yet* a One Party state – which is only one national “crisis away, before a “state of emergency” is declared – we have taken a further step toward the nightmarish society envisioned by C.K. Stead in “Smith’s Dream/Sleeping Dogs“. (That nice man, Prime Minister Volkner, had such a horrid time caused by those nasty terrorists. Why couldn’t they just all get a proper job?)

It might well be that the release of Nicky Hager’s private information to the police was an inadvertent slip-up by an ill-informed Westpac employee.  Or it could be that there is now a nascent culture developing in New Zealand of fawning, unquestioning obeisance to Authority.

In a space of thirtythree years, we have gone from massive street protests and struggle against an increasingly authoritarian National government led by Robert Mudoon – to meekly accepting increasing State surveillance and seizure powers.

And in just seven years, we have gone from this;


Showers latest target of Labour's nanny state


– to this;


various spy bills


Yes, in just under a decade, National has taken New Zealand from complaining about reduced shower flows and ecologically-sound lightbulbs (!!) being “Nanny Statish” – to mass surveillance of the population; increased powers for spy agencies and police; forcing telco’s to keep client information for the State; and warrantless search and seizures.

In my youth, I visited my parents’ homeland whilst it was still under communist rule, and within the ‘sphere of influence’ of the Kremlin.

I can say, with a fair degree of confidence tinged with sadness, that New Zealand has moved closer to being a South Pacific replica of a former Soviet ‘satellite’ state. Only the Gulags are yet to be built. (Our Australian cuzzies have them already at Christmas Island and elsewhere.)

I can think of no other way to see this country. We have spy agencies monitoring New Zealanders; spying on our Pacific neighbours and trading partners; and harassing journalists who are critical of this government’s actions. Phil Goff’s political career was almost destroyed by National’s abuse of the powers of the SIS.

What else do you call a country where police can gain access to a citizen’s private information – without arresting him – and with no warrant? The term, I believe, is Police State.

If National Party supporters are “relaxed” about this, then I have this piece of advice for them; remember that governments change. Sooner or later, Labour will be in office.

And the Labour Prime Minister, with perhaps a few scores to settle, will have all the powers of search, surveillance, warrantless seizures, that John Key has gradually amassed since 2008.

Laws like these;

Search and Surveillance Act 2012

Telecommunications (Interception Capability and Security) Act 2013

Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Act 2013

Countering Terrorist Fighters Legislation Bill (aka Customs and Excise Amendment Act 2014)

There may even be a new Minister for the GCSB and SIS. Perhaps Phil Goff. Or David Cunliffe.

Then the shoe will be on the other foot (the Left one). At that point, National and it’s supporters may start to regret the encroachment of State power into our lives.

I believe light bulbs and shower nozzles will be the least of their worries.





TVNZ: Dita DeBoni – Privacy right is not a right when not ‘right’

National Party: Showers latest target of Labour’s nanny state

NBR: Ferguson confirms ‘mass surveillance’, Key reiterates GCSB acting lawfully

NZ Herald: Warning as second part of spy bill passes

NBR: ‘Undemocratic’ Search and Surveillance Bill made law

Fairfax media: Spy bill passes into law amid wide criticism

Newstalk ZB: PM won’t confirm Pacific spying

Fairfax: Private data deserves greater respect than Westpac showed Nicky Hager

Techdirt: New Zealand Spy Agency Deleted Evidence About Its Illegal Spying On Kim Dotcom

Yahoo News: English didn’t know GCSB spied illegally

NZ Herald: GCSB report: 88 cases of possible illegal spying uncovered

Other Bloggers

Kiwipolitico: Confronting executive branch excess

Kiwipolitico: Some questions about the Stephenson case

No Right Turn: An unwarranted demand for information

No Right Turn: The banality of intrusion

The Daily Blog: Police plotted to arrest and spy on Nicky Hager – the most interesting parts of 1 year on from Dirty Politics

The Daily Blog: What mainstream haven’t mentioned about Westpac corporate narking on Nicky Hager

The Daily Blog: News release on behalf of Nicky Hager concerning privacy breach by Westpac

The Daily Blog: Why what the Police are doing to Nicky Hager is so extraordinary

The Standard: Technology and the law – and going after Hager

The Standard: Angry at Westpac

The Standard: Dirty Politics was in the public interest

The Standard: “A creeping authoritarianism from the current government”

Previous related blogposts

Parliamentary spies and games – some bad numbers

National Party president complains of covert filming – oh the rich irony!

It is 1984. It is ALWAYS 1984

National’s disdain for democracy and dissent

Those who love Big Brother

Welcome to new glorious People’s Republic of New Zealand

From the Horses mouth

Today’s irony was brought to you courtesy of former ACT MP and Govt Minister, Rodney Hide

Weekend Revelations #2 – Michelle Boag has a whinge







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  1. Totally agree with Dita and also Nicky Hager. He’s a good guy trying to bring illegal and corrupt practices by people in power to light.

    Under the Natz, exposing corruption is now subject to personal harassment via police (who would probably prefer to be out doing their real jobs – not being political errand boys,) to harass investigative journalist on behalf of a complaint by a recidivist contempt of court troublemaker Slater with political connections.

    Meanwhile police and SIS and GCBS so keen to waste police resources on the Kangaroo court proceedings like Hager and Dotcom they are likely to miss real criminals, who are actually targeting New Zealanders not the potential profits of Hollywood or someone doing public good like Hager.

    What is wrong with this picture?

  2. I fear by the time Middle New Zealand wakes up to the police state we ave created, it will become too late…..

  3. We have enough information that shows that even the Ombudsman does not firmly and fairly enforce the Official Information Act and less so the Privacy Act, yes cannot even do much, but make weak recommendations, when government agencies do not adhere to them.

    That is the state of the law in NZ.

    Insiders also know how useless and ineffective the Health and Disability Commissioner Act is.

    There is too much discretion offered to these Officers of Parliament to choose to do nothing, to not investigate, and government knows it and takes advantage of it all the time.

    The matter with Westpac is another one, that with info handed out to the Police in the Nicky Hager case. Again, what can Hager actually do under the law now?

    NZers are continually presented a farcical system that is supposed to look after our interests, including privacy, “transparency” and “accountability” of government agencies, departments and ministries, but the real picture is far from what most presume is happening.

    As a matter of fact, the public are being taken for a ride. But as only minorities ever deal with all these “players” mentioned above, most will never find out themselves and remain blissfully ignorant:

    • One of a new Labour-led government’s many priorities has to be strengthening the Ombudsman’s Office; entrenching it’s funding to keep pace with inflation (if it’s not already); and to appoint someone aggressive enough to take on Ministers and Departmental heads.

      There also has to be punitive remedies to when Ministers and Departmental heads obfuscate or delay OIA requests. Some sort of penalty.

      If we get ‘pinged’ for staying 35 minutes in a 30 minute parking zone, then Ministers and Departmental Heads should be liable as well.

      As an example, I’m collecting material for a story on Serco. My first OIA request was lodged on 28 July – and I am still trying to get sensible answers to my questions. (My questions must be very threatening if they’re avoiding them so strenuously.)

      Thankfully I have a Plan B. Plan Bs are good. Plan Cs – not so.

  4. Very well said Frank.

    .If National Party supporters are “relaxed” about this, then I have this piece of advice for them; remember that governments change. Sooner or later, Labour will be in office.

    Unfortunately, if Chris Trotter is to be believed (and I think he is right on the nail), the Deep State’s allegiance is firmly toward the authoritarian right wing and plutocratic end of the political spectrum. A left wing government can only ever expect partial and grudging cooperation from its apparatchiks.

    • *sighs* I suspect you’re right, Richard. I recall the British TV series, ‘A Very British Coup’. The reality of it just creeped me out. (Then again, British drama has a habit of doing that. )

      For a left-wing government to achieve a goal of changing (re-orienting?) the Deep State, it would have to be in office for at least two terms (three?)

  5. What’s the bet the SIS was spying on the Labour Party conference in the guise of protecting New Zealand’s economic interests

    • Pineapples? I wouldn’t take that bet, I’m afraid. I’d be surprised if they weren’t. (Maybe a bit offended as well.)

      I recall in the 1990s, at an Alliance social gathering/fund raiser, a representative from the US Embassy was present. She said she was from the “State Department”. CIA more likely, and we knew it.

      And we told her so, to her face. (She had a good sense of humour and took it in her stride.)

      But she was more than welcome to stay; listen; and understand what the Alliance had to offer. We had nothing to be secretive about (unlike the National Party’s covert relationship with the Brethren) and were an open book.

      Hopefully she left with a greater understanding of what motivated us.

  6. great piece Frank,

    We are now under foreign control and we are being monitored for any harm we may bring to big money interests who want to own us all someday, but not while I have any breath left in me either brother.

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