John Key didn’t really say people who don’t want a flag change are ‘mentally deficient’ did he???

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There’s speculation that John Key told a Canterbury business audience that people who thought the flag shouldn’t be changed were ‘mentally deficient’.

I say speculation because while the claim is all over social media and the memes have been generated…

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…it’s just such a disgraceful thing for anyone – let along the Prime Minister of our country to say, that I feel like I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

If this is confirmed, it’s just grossly offensive for the Leader of our country to stoop to this sort of childish name calling. In the past he’s described Journalists he didn’t like as ‘henchmen’ or ‘Communist Conspiracy theorists’ and he is alleged to have called one of the mothers of the Pike River tragedy an incredibly offensive word in a  conversation with Slater.

The media really need to focus some attention on this allegation.

It could be a hoax or a misrepresentation of what the PM said, but a definitive answer would be good.

17 COMMENTS

  1. Martyn it seems Key can say what he likes , who’s to stop him?He has said enough in the past that would see most parliamentarians thrown out, the speaker lets him say what he likes and laughs.
    Key has the corporations and bankers behind him,they want him in place to take over NZ.

    • Campbell Live would have had him on about it.
      The remora MSM, just shrug their mentally deficient shoulders and keep their heads down.

  2. Well one thing we DO KNOW that is not speculation is that this so – called ‘ PM ‘ committed common assault over a six month time period .

    Not only that – he committed the same offense around 10 times !!!

    TEN TIMES !!!!

    And this whilst being accompanied by the Diplomatic Protection Squad – who are payed their wages by us the taxpayers !!!!

    We could of course add to the common assault charge workplace harassment , male assaults female …

    But here we have a so -called ‘ PM ‘ who not only has become the laughing stock around the world – but evades criminal conviction !!!

    And fobs off our legal system with a limp ‘apology ‘ .

    And a crate of piss .

    John Key – the hair pulling joke ‘PM’ of the south pacific , – the right hand man of Andrew Kreiger who conducted the biggest Forex heist in history against Keys OWN country New Zealand.

    John Key – the man who lied about the existence of the 5 eye spy networks XKEYSCORE software programme – AND the ILLEGAL surveillance of 88 New Zealanders including one prominent German / Finnish immigrant.

    John Key – the USA sycophant who called Glen Greenwald one of ‘Dotcoms little henchman ‘ – DESPITE Glen Greenwald being instrumental in bringing the head of the NSA to court for illegal surveillance of the American public.

    John Key – the joke ‘ PM ‘ who denied all knowledge about a Dirty Politics campaign being run from HIS VERY OFFICE !!!

    John Key – the phony ‘PM ‘ who denied using the SIS for political advantage and having his senior staff members from HIS OWN OFFICE run a smear campaign against Phil Goff .

    WHERE IS JASON EDE IN ALL THIS ??? – WHY HAVEN’T WE HEARD FROM HIM ???

    John Key – the fake ‘PM’ who compromised our national security by dragging out irrelevant data from the SIS to justify his lies there is no mass surveillance in New Zealand – and then admitted he lied about the XKEYSCORE software programme .

    John Key – the pantomime charade of a ‘PM ‘ who presided over the ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE OF 88 NEW ZEALANDERS – and who now has a man in OUR COURTS on trumped up charges from the FBI – a foreign power who have NO JURISDICTION in this SOVEREIGN nation.

    John Key – the so – called ‘PM’ who changed the surveillance law after the fact to hold advantage over 4 men in OUR COURTS just so he could appear squeaky clean and not guilty of any wrongdoing.

    John Key – the USA sycophant who’s real reason for being here is to push through the TTPA – and if needs be – sacrifice 4 men’s freedom for decades .

    John Key – who commits OUR TROOPS to the middle east to FIGHT – not train – to support his beloved America and its foreign policy and bid for USA world hegemony .

    COME ON PEOPLE , – ADD TO THE LIST !!!

    I WANT TO SEE POST AFTER POST NAMING AND SHAMING THIS MAN AND HIS BOGUS ANTI DEMOCRATIC GOVT !!!

    START POSTING AND LISTING!!!

    • John Key who said he only had 5000 shares in Tranzrail!!!

      But later the facts came out that showed he had over 120 000 shares the bloody liar.

  3. Why would it be a misrepresentation Martyn?

    It’s completely in keeping with his nature.

    But yes, we do need facts not opinions.

    My money is on “he did say that”… 🙂

  4. The only mental deficiency here is for those who still believe that John Key is best thing since sliced bread.

  5. The last sentence is the relevant one
    http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-so-who-exactly-placed-conditions/?p=348186#post348186

    “I was at an event last night where the Prime Minister spoke – he was supposed to have 3 minutes. His first 3 minutes was filled with making jokes about the speed with which Australia replaces Prime Ministers, and how he’d visited the sheep in Saudi Arabia and they were fine and had flown first class (unlike him), and some facile tale about multiple marriages and how the Saudi prince he was with would be allowed 4 wives but his first wife wouldn’t let him (I don’t know, other people seemed to find the speech funny, maybe I’m just a humourless left-wing nanny-state wowser).

    He then said he was going to exceed his time and talk about something important – so he spent the next 5 minutes on a rambling justification for changing the flag to a silver fern. People wave it at sports events, it’s on the gravestones of soldiers overseas, people will be excited about it and want to own it (with an aside about how New Zealanders are patriotic but don’t show it, but if we had a nice new flag with a fern on it, then everyone would want to wave one all the time). This was after he insulted the half of the audience who wanted to keep the existing flag by calling them not as bright as the ones who wanted to change. it was cringeworthy….. ”

  6. The first time this I saw this alleged was in the comments under another article and was commented by someone who was paraphrasing. It seems likely that his actual words were more along the lines of ” people who don’t want the flag changed arent as smart as those of us who do “. This doesn’t make the attitude any less awful, and considering he was saying it to an audience of RSA etc was probably enough insulting anyway.

  7. this is the comment that sparked all of the Martyn.

    http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-so-who-exactly-placed-conditions/?p=348186#post348186

    Dave Patrick, 4 days ago

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    I was at an event last night where the Prime Minister spoke – he was supposed to have 3 minutes. His first 3 minutes was filled with making jokes about the speed with which Australia replaces Prime Ministers, and how he’d visited the sheep in Saudi Arabia and they were fine and had flown first class (unlike him), and some facile tale about multiple marriages and how the Saudi prince he was with would be allowed 4 wives but his first wife wouldn’t let him (I don’t know, other people seemed to find the speech funny, maybe I’m just a humourless left-wing nanny-state wowser).

    He then said he was going to exceed his time and talk about something important – so he spent the next 5 minutes on a rambling justification for changing the flag to a silver fern. People wave it at sports events, it’s on the gravestones of soldiers overseas, people will be excited about it and want to own it (with an aside about how New Zealanders are patriotic but don’t show it, but if we had a nice new flag with a fern on it, then everyone would want to wave one all the time). This was after he insulted the half of the audience who wanted to keep the existing flag by calling them not as bright as the ones who wanted to change. it was cringeworthy…..

  8. Aren’t you the guy who regularly refers to the “sleepy hobbits of new zild”, and you’re taking John Key to task for disparaging the public! I despise JK, but I despise hypocrisy just as much.
    Incidentally, I find the “sleepy hobbits” abuse a real turn-off, you’re better than that.

    • I refer to the sleepy hobbits of muddle Nu Zilind because they are sleepy hobbits of muddle Nu Zilind, the middle classes who prefer to doze while egalitarianism is robbed from these shores. The last election proved that, they would prefer to vote for a leader who has abused more political power than any other in NZs political history because he keeps their house valuations afloat.

      Comparing my comments to the PM possibly calling everyone who doesn’t want his vanity project mentally deficient is churlish.

  9. Though extremely reluctant, I called the PM’s office to try and confirm, and yup, he said it!

    He did not say “Mentally Deficient”, instead what he said is better reflected by David Patrick’s comment but I can’t be certain of the precise wording as they were reluctant to provide a recording or an exact quote.

    David Patrick:
    I was at an event last night where the Prime Minister spoke – he was supposed to have 3 minutes. His first 3 minutes was filled with making jokes about the speed with which Australia replaces Prime Ministers, and how he’d visited the sheep in Saudi Arabia and they were fine and had flown first class (unlike him), and some facile tale about multiple marriages and how the Saudi prince he was with would be allowed 4 wives but his first wife wouldn’t let him (I don’t know, other people seemed to find the speech funny, maybe I’m just a humourless left-wing nanny-state wowser).
    He then said he was going to exceed his time and talk about something important – so he spent the next 5 minutes on a rambling justification for changing the flag to a silver fern. People wave it at sports events, it’s on the gravestones of soldiers overseas, people will be excited about it and want to own it (with an aside about how New Zealanders are patriotic but don’t show it, but if we had a nice new flag with a fern on it, then everyone would want to wave one all the time). This was after he insulted the half of the audience who wanted to keep the existing flag by calling them not as bright as the ones who wanted to change. it was cringeworthy…..

  10. I am so pleased someone is trying to confirm the truth of this or not. Personally I doubt it. The PM is surely not silly enough to say such a thing in public, but should we take silence from attendees of the event as tentative confirmation.

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