The misplaced schadenfreude of Ashley Madison – your Government is doing to you what those hackers did to them

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Shhhh, big brother is watching

 

The gleeful schadenfreude of the Ashley Madison hack is utterly misplaced.

I’m no moralist, if you are having an affair, that’s on you, your conscience and the ramifications are yours as an adult to own. The shockwave of impact this hack has created has damaged lives and highlighted that Ashley Madison was probably committing large amounts of fraud from fake accounts that created pretend connections and few affairs seem to have actually occurred.

While those of us who aren’t implicated sit back and laugh at how anyone would put personal information on line and enjoy the public shaming, we should consider that because of the mass surveillance laws rammed through under urgency by John Key with his mate as the boss, the GCSB and other law enforcement agencies are doing exactly what the Ashley Madison hackers did to everyone of us and delivering that information directly to the NSA.

Let’s not forget the sickening PR spin job the NZ Listener recently allowed themselves to be used for to soften up baby boomers into accepting this mass surveillance, don’t forget the SIS have now been given warrantless spy powers – the same agency who colluded with the PMs Office to falsify a smear against the Leader of the Opposition months before the 2011 election helping National win that election and don’t forget the sham review that is currently being undertaken where these spy agencies will be allowed even more powers.

NZers were told about this mass surveillance spying by Assange, Snowden and Greenwald but they flocked to Key anyway. The Intelligence Services probably couldn’t believe their luck ar how easily played the sleepy hobbits were, so while we mock the thousands of NZers who have been compromised by the Ashley Madison hack, we should perhaps pause and appreciate that a majority of our citizens voted to allow the Government to do exactly what those hackers have done.

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14 COMMENTS

  1. Well said.

    And, you are probably correct, in that Ashley Madison itself is almost certainly largely a scam. I know they send out large amount of blatant spam emails, targeting email addresses they have bought from lists that have been ‘stolen’ by scammers who set up automated ‘bots’ to crawl all through the internet ‘harvesting’ email addresses from webpages, because I receive their crappy spam.

    But, a click of the mouse gets rid of their trash, whereas the GCSB and the NSA are a different matter, and of much more serious concern to the average citizen than Ashley Madison.

  2. I have heard that it’s the Chinese hacking this site. 😀
    The Chinese have inroads into almost everything … including jonkey’s office I wouldn’t be surprised.
    Every time there’s a chemical explosion in China, another US system is hacked (so I hear).
    Poor ol’ jonkey, he’s really just a minor minion.
    We (the true NZer) will be okay once these games finish. Just a little wiser.

  3. “NZers were told about this mass surveillance spying by Assange, Snowden and Greenwald but they flocked to Key anyway”

    True that Martyn,

    Wonder if “everyone is under mass surveillance”?

    Is Joyce, Key, Brownlee & English?
    Bet they are not.

    “Social media mass surveillance is permitted by law”????????
    says top UK official
    Charles Farr’s statement marks first time government has commented on how it exploits the UK’s legal framework to operate mass interception
    • Read Farr’s statement in full

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/17/mass-surveillance-social-media-permitted-uk-law-charles-farr

    Jun 17, 2014 – Mass surveillance of social media is permitted by law, says top official … monitored under the Regulatory of Investigation Powers Act, according to Farr. …. We need new laws to counter new threats, carrying public confidence with them.” ….. Perhaps a register of citizens eligible for a term in government eg.

  4. Well of course the way to get around this is to tell a whole lot of lies on line

    ….in fact have a FIB FESTIVAL on line

    …disinformation all around …..in fact isnt this what this jonkey Nact government does all the time

    ….this is why Snowden said that blanket spying on everyone is not very effective

    • ….this is why Snowden said that blanket spying on everyone is not very effective – yes…. but it is very expensive and someone gets a make a heck of a lot of money and all under secrecy.

      Mass spying is a bit like high tech drone missiles – very expensive way to fight and little hit and mostly miss and targeting innocent civilians. Of the later much cover up needed to justify it.

  5. ‘ NZers were told about this mass surveillance spying by Assange, Snowden and Greenwald but they flocked to Key anyway. ‘

    And I’m going to also add to that and say lets also remember the shitty treatment dished out to Mr Kim Dotcom by this despicable little weasel PM jOHN kEY…

    And by whom The Moment of Truth and Snowden , Assange , Greenwald was brought to us .

    All these vital whistleblowers who have been persecuted by members of the 5 eye spy network.

    Key – the traitorous little shit who called Glenn Greenwald a ‘henchman’.

    Greenwald – the man who forced the NSA to admit they had been gathering data illegally on US citizens.

    Key – the treasonous piece of shit who denied the XKEYSCORE progam.

    Snowden – the man who demonstrated clearly that XKEYSCORE was in operation in NZ.

    Key – the subversive piece of garbage who threatened our National security by dragging out irrelevant data from the SIS to justify his bullshit stance.

    Key!!!!! Key!!!! Key!!!!! Key !!!!!

    That sickening , disgusting, toadying and absolute latter day Benedict Arnold !!!

    Key !!!!

    The prick who wants to sell our sovereignty out from under us with the TTPA !!!!

    Key !!!

    That disgusting little creep who had no qualms being the right hand man of Andrew Kreiger in pulling of the largest Forex heist in history against his own country of birth !!!!

    Key !!!

    This is the criminal you voted for NZ .

    Get off your fat arse’s and do some research into this hideous little vampire before its too late.

    And you can do a simple background check on this character by googling

    Hackpad : Honest John.

    And there are many many more resources available also that shows how this odious little man has duped you.

    Do it , learn ,…and by doing this …you will know just who to vote for in 2017.

    Just do it.

  6. I agree it is sickening how these people voted for john key and ignored what kit . Com and co warned us about.Therefore allowing the corporate take over of NZ.

    • Don’t blame the people.

      After the MOT a herald poll showed that most people believed Dotcom and not John Key.

      But after Labour and the Greens put the boot in, or showed very little interest and called it ‘a distraction’ – it created confusion. Who was right? Maybe John Key was right if Labour and the Greens thought mass surveillance was just some sort of distraction?

      Don’t forget the TV3 that flew out journo’s to the Philippines to interview minor workers for Dotcom, while they couldn’t actually bother and still haven’t interviewed Jason Ede.

      I actually get sick of hearing how it is all the public’s fault that they voted for the Nats.

      How about the million that didn’t vote that could have voted if there was less confusion and a bit of a plan from the opposition.

      There has been a massive campaign against Dotcom who has not been proven guilty and proven to be illegally surveilled and had his assets seized so he can’t defend himself. This is all on the NZ taxpayer. To harass some guy who doesn’t even own a property in this country.

      If he was Chinese with 100’s of properties or farms, the government would be all over him apologising.

      Instead of going with what is right, the opposition parties have distanced themselves in case they lose votes. However I suspect the opposite happened and the public who think the opposition have sold out and going for the ‘easy’ wins. A solar panel here, an insulated house there, a property register.

      Mass surveillance is put in the too hard basket. Like Dotcom. Who many Kiwis actually liked, before the smear campaign which also took out Cunliffe as well as axing John Campbell.

  7. But did we really vote them in…? or did money buy them in? I believe the last election was brought. Maybe time will prove me right.

    • “But did we really vote them in…?”
      Good question, we all know systems can be hacked and information falsified.
      It’s not beyond the realms of possibility, is it. You can’t discount just because you don’t want to belief it could happen in little old NZ.. Of course I have no proof but we all know every computer can accessed if you have the inclination and desire.

    • And why did Audrey Young run a piece on Jacinda Adhern this morning. The right wing media creating dirty politics trying to start a non story on the Labour leadership. To see National ministers goading Jacinda in parliament today, clearly showed this was a media sting ably supported by the Herald right wing. They have all been bought by nasty John. Why? Same reason why Key is on Henry’s morning show and Hosking’s radio show but refused Campbell’s show. He is the most disgraceful PM we’ve ever seen.

  8. Would be interested to know whether the NZ elections could be independently audited, something is going wrong in this country.

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