The Daily Blog Open Mic Sunday 16th August 2015

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Announce protest actions, general chit chat or give your opinion on issues we haven’t covered for the day.

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Hey everyone, thank you for contacting us with the problems you are having at the moment with posting comments.

While you may be told your message has been trashed or disallowed or denied, they are in fact all remaining on site.

So please be patient and your comments will turn up.

We are working on the problem and will have a solution soon.

PS -While we are having this discussion about comments, we have always felt moderated comments were a way to go to avoid trolling. The Internet can be a pretty rude place at times so we wanted to try and reduce that.

How would everyone feel about

a) Direct posts to blogs.

b) Moderation after publishing (if we went down this path we would need volunteer moderators).

c) We are going to start clamping down more on personal abuse between commentators and would like to open up thoughts form you the readers about what you would like to see in terms of comments and what the rules should be.

Please leave comments below. Thoughts on what we will do will be published middle of next month.

Cheers TDB Team

 

8 COMMENTS

  1. ‘Remembering victory’

    https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/256489-remembering-victory-war-nazi/

    “The War in Europe came to an end 70 years ago. The Soviet Union and its Allies stood supreme over the vanquished Nazi enemy, with the continent on its knees. What lessons have been learned since that vast conflict? And what lessons have been unlearned? Was the loss of so many millions in vain?

    CrossTalking with Geoffrey Roberts, Jeffrey Tayler and Dmitry Babich.”

  2. The Daily Blog has decided to blacklist me and will not respond to my questions about why? I have lost a lot of respect for this blog and likely will not be participating or tuning in anymore.

    • @ BLAKE – Well here you are today.

      Firstly, if TDB blacklisted you, it would have the decency to say so up front. TDB usually makes it plain and clear and quite openly, who will be blacklisted and banned. That’s Scarletmod’s job and to date I haven’t seen anything to indicate this.

      Keep posting.

      Secondly, we have all experienced problems posting over the past week, so please don’t take it to heart.

  3. b) Moderation after publishing (if we went down this path we would need volunteer moderators).

    Martyn, I’d be very wary of having post-published moderation. It would be a Welcome Mat to every RWNJ troll who usually wallows in the swamp of a certain other (right wing) blog.

    I’ve seen post-published moderation on overseas-based messageboards, and you usually need about half a dozen mods who are willing to spend considerable time checking every message posted, regularly, and consistently.

    I’m not saying it’s not possible – but it is time consuming.

    Also, the more moderators you have on-board, the more scope for disagreement. Some moderators will be “liberal” – others will be “hard line”.

    A borderline comment may pass three out of, say, six moderators – the fourth will bin it.

    You’ll also need to be able to keep track of each moderators actions, in case one Mod decides they don’t like Poster X – and bins every comment posted, regardless how innocuous it might be.

    You could allocate moderators to each group of blogs; Setting the Agenda; Deconstructing Headlines; Media Watch; Guest & Sponsored Blogs; The Liberal Agenda, etc. But you’ll need to ensure you have two or three Mods per group, to cover each other when some Mods are at work; doing housework; out and about; etc.

    If I understand how Lynn does things at “The Standard” (and I might be wrong here), each author moderates comments for his/her blogpost. That system, of course, depends on how much time a blogger can spend checking what comments are being posted on his/her comments section… (For me, personally, not that much time.)

    I’m advising caution here. All it takes is for RWNJ trolls to turn TDB into an unpleasant place for posting comments – or, more seriously, for a provocateur to post something illegal (eg; information covered by a Court suppression ban) – and things could get very messy.

    • moderation seems to work generally well on the Standard….I don’t think any place is perfect …and what works well is worth emulating

      …speaking as one who comments on the Standard ( and one who has been involved in a virtual picket organised by Parsupial against ‘bad’ moderation and unjust accusations and ‘bullying’ by some against others who walked off and boycotted for a while ) …I have almost been banned …or at least I have been warned once or twice….and for a while I really didn’t like one moderator and some commenters…but now I do, or at least I can agree with them on some issues…It is a bit like families….for a while you cant stand one member(s) but you can get over your differences after a while especially when you find things you agree about.

      ..Of course trolls are another story because they are there to with the intention of undermining the debate and disruption and are really enemies of the site…

      ….Also you can learn to avoid raising the ire of some moderators …learn their quirks and avoid antagonising them because they have a short fuse ( those who dont learn get banned….there is no justice!)

      imo moderators need to have some tolerance for all commenters to their post and comments which challenge them and their position ….because this adds to the liveliness of the debate….even some ‘trolls’ can be entertaining and can have a useful arguments and a valuable perspective

      …but abuse and deliberate personal attacks on others must not be tolerated

    • moderation seems to work generally well on the Standard….I don’t think any place is perfect …and what works well is worth emulating

      …speaking as one who comments on the Standard ( and one who has been involved in a virtual picket organised by Parsupial against ‘bad’ moderation and unjust accusations and ‘bullying’ by some against others who walked off and boycotted for a while ) …I have almost been banned …or at least I have been warned once or twice….and for a while I really didn’t like one moderator and some commenters…but now I do, or at least I can agree with them on some issues…It is a bit like families….for a while you cant stand one member(s) but you can get over your differences after a while especially when you find things you agree about.

      ..Of course trolls are another story because they are there to with the intention of undermining the debate and disruption and are really enemies of the site…

      ….Also you can learn to avoid raising the ire of some moderators …learn their quirks and avoid antagonising them because they have a short fuse ( those who dont learn get banned….there is no justice!)

      imo moderators need to have some tolerance for all commenters to their post and comments which challenge them and their position ….because this adds to the liveliness of the debate….even some ‘trolls’ can be entertaining and can have a useful arguments and a valuable perspective

      …but abuse and deliberate personal attacks on others must not be tolerated ( that is my tuppence worth)

      …I also think it is useful to have enough time to edit and reflect on what you have said …before your comment disappears into the ether…you may need to change it, edit it, add references/links….or finally on reflection decide to delete it after submitting it…about 8-9 minutes is ample time imo

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