The Daily Blog Open Mic Friday 7th August 2015

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    • I suppose the fact that the inquiry was conducted by the Independent Police Conduct Authority, which is chaired by a Judge does not satisfy your obvious desire that they be investigated by someone other than the police themselves, someone independent?
      Bit of a silly question really, as I strongly suspect that you will say the IPCA is biased towards the police, and your version of independent is someone who makes a ruling you agree with.
      That aside, I would be curious to know why you think the IPCA decision is wrong, given that there didn’t appear to be any dispute as to what DI Wormald knew, the issue was whether the answers given to the specific questions he was asked were consistent with what he knew.

  1. “The Government argued Mr Al-Khalaf had been misled by the previous Labour-led Government into believing the ban would be lifted so he could export live sheep from New Zealand to Saudi Arabia.

    The papers, however, do not support the Government’s argument, even though Prime Minister John Key continues to make such claims.”

    How many lies that that make it FJK has said in is doggy shaky career as master constructor/destructor of our Country?

    Was 150+ a year ago so add at least 25 to 40 more to this date 7/8/15.
    must be up to 200 by now or more?

    needs to be updated from 06/08/14.

    150+ lies and hypocrisies, catalogued with sources.

    I read this and wanted to get all Key’s lies in one place. Thanks to /u/stevo_stevo for the idea and starter list!

    Please comment with any lies or hypocrisies that have been missed!

    I did this because I knew Key lied a lot, I didn’t understand the quantity and scope til now – so, I have no answer how his popularity increases – must be the 50% in the polls are woefully ill-informed or are blind to the facts….

    We get the politicians we deserve.

    I promise to always be honest – False

    The big list of John Key’s lies

    1 John Key claimed that he didn’t know about the Exclusive Brethren tactics. False.

    2 John Key claimed that he didn’t have Tranz Rail Shares. False.

    He actually said he had between 25k – 50k shares, but after a journalist discovered his family trust had also bought some, he changed it to 100k. Still dodgy, but not quite claiming he didn’t have any. /u/jandalofdoom http://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/293rq9/labour_vindicated_by_lius_error_story_politics_3/cih5yvz

    Herald: Key accused of lying over Tranz Rail shares

    3 John Key claimed that he didn’t own a vineyard. False
    John Key and his vineyard investments

    4 John Key claimed that he voted to keep the drinking age at 20. False.
    One more from NBR

    5 John Key claimed that he didn’t know about the renewal of the BMW contract in 2011. False.

    6 John Key claimed the wage gap between New Zealand and Australia had closed under the National government. False.

    7 John Key claimed that his office had no involvement with the SkyCity deal. False.

    8 John Key claimed that the Sky City deal will provide 1000 construction jobs and 800 casino jobs. False.

    9 John Key claimed that all five bidders for the convention centre were treated equally. False.

    10 John Key claimed that Solid Energy asked the government for a $1 billion capital investment. False.

    11 John Key claimed that the 2011 Budget would create in the order of 170,000 jobs. False.

    12 John Key claimed that NZ SAS soldiers were not involved in the Kabul Hotel gunfight. False.

    13 John Key claimed that Iain Rennie recommended Ian Fletcher for the GCSB job. False.

    14 John Key claimed that he hadn’t seen Ian Fletcher in a long time. False.

    15 John Key claimed that it was always the intent of the GCSB Act to be able to spy on New Zealanders. False. – Not sure what this one means.

    16 John Key claimed that the illegal spying on Kim Dotcom was an isolated incident. False.

    17 John Key claimed that the bulk of New Zealanders earn between $45,000 and $75,000 a year. False.
    According to Statistics New Zealand’s New Zealand Income Survey results for the June 2010 the median income (the amount which half the people in the country earn below) was $529 per week, which equates to $27508 per year.

    18 John Key claimed that he is honest and upfront. False – see above.

    19 Video of John Key on the campaign trail in 2008 ruling out a rise in GST if he won the election. False

    20 On privatising assets, “I don’t believe that’s gonna turn the New Zealand economy around. False /u/John_Banks

    21 update 10/07/2014, “National promised in its 2011 election manifesto all state houses which could be practically insulated would be.” False

    ‘In answer to written questions this week, Housing Minister Nick Smith said of the 30 percent of the 68,000 houses under Housing New Zealand’s management had not been insulated.”

    22 More GCSB – at least Key’s pal is in charge now…

    “The spymaster who initially cleared the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) of illegally snooping on Kim Dotcom was also directly involved in seeking the suppression order signed by Bill English as Acting Prime Minister.”

    The Herald has learned former chief legal adviser Hugh Wolfensohn was involved in arranging the once-in-a-decade certificate which sought to bury the scandal.

    The Prime Minister confirmed yesterday for the first time it was Mr Wolfensohn’s advice that quelled GCSB and police fears they had illegally spied on Mr Dotcom and his co-accused Bram van der Kolk.

    He told Parliament: “The best of the legal advice presented by Hugh Wolfensohn was that it was legal. As we now know, GCSB and Mr Wolfensohn were wrong.*

    Mr Wolfensohn no longer works at the bureau after being placed on “gardening leave”. A spokesman for the GCSB said of Mr Wolfensohn’s advice: “With hindsight, we know it wasn’t right.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10872586

    23 John Key: ‘I’ve never lied about Kim Dotcom’, 21/11/2012 False – from 5 Oct 2012 and One video exposes Key, GCSB’s & Banks’ Dotcom lies

    24 “Gerry Brownlee breaches airport security rules”. Every other National MP that has broken much less serious rules (and got caught) has been removed from their position. Hypocrisy
    Using the exit door jokes, optional.

    25 Genesis energy asset sales will be predominantly ‘mum and dad’ buyers. False.

    “A controversial American couple are the biggest investors in recently floated Genesis Energy – sparking angry claims the Government has been caught out “screwing the scrum” against mum and dad Kiwi buyers.”

    26 “The good news was I was having dinner with Ngāti Porou, as opposed to their neighbouring Iwi ,which was Tuhoi, in which case I would have been dinner” (audio)

    Another 143 here.

    @ArchieDaRival doing an admirable job with “John Key’s 69 top lies”

    With some duplicates from the 143 and the above, a number of around 150 seems fair.

    Honourable mentions

    1.John Key being a dick about GCSB (to tax payers and) Russel Norman in question time.

    2.Eight NZ politicians who were forced to resign

    3.Key rejects criticism over Mubarak comments – Supporting a tyrant and a dictator with no representation for the Egyptian people was fine because Mubarak supported Israel

    4.Open letter to Eugene Bingham or would you have voted for John Key if you had known

    i. The true relationship John Key had with Andrew Krieger and the attack on the NZ dollar in late 1987.

    ii. The role John Key had in the Asian Crisis, the Russian collapse and the collapse of the LTCM hedge fund.

    iii. The role John Key had in the Subprime trade and the real timeline of the Subprime crisis and the subsequent collapse of the global economy.

    Using the evidence above and the ‘smile’:

    Sociopathic Traits

    John Key’s History

    Career

    • Investment banker, New Zealand for 10 years

    • Investment banker, Merrill Lynch 1995-2001

    • Member, Foreign Exchange Committee of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York 1999-2001

    Merrill Lynch Senior Executive Steve Bollotti said of John Key “he revolutionised the blue blood investment banking sector.” Note: The GFC.

    “Fran O’Sullivan: Key chases luck o’ the Irish” – Ireland since bankrupted

  2. Most on the TDB already know the long list of JK’s lies…but thanks for putting it down. Suggest you sent it to the Herald to see if they publish it.

  3. There is another list around somewhere with lies since the 2014 election adding another 50 plus to the list but cant remember who published it.

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