What’s the difference between John Key and a US drone?
Trick question, both are controlled by Washington.
That Mike Hosking has come out cheerleading war should surprise no one. He lists all of the arguments against this stupid re-invasion of Iraq and then just shrugs them all off as if they don’t really count because the world is interconnected and complex. despite all the evidence that clearly states this is an exercise in total futility Hosking ends his column asserting that going to war is the right and honourable thing to do
But through it all, despite it all, we must play our part. It is the right, honourable and only thing to do.
No! It is not right, honourable or ‘the only thing to do’. Stopping the bloody Saudis and Turkey from funding ISIS would be the best option, not an ongoing pointless war to try and clean up the last power vacuum the American’s created when they invaded Iraq under the lie of weapons of mass destruction.
The right thing to do is to pressure the US to force their allies to stop funding crazy extremists who are created in the environments America helps make for their own geopolitical interests. That’s the right thing to do, joining America and putting the lives of our soldiers at risk to suck up to the bloody yanks as part of our role in the club is despicable.
So Hoskings’ war mongering is tired and predictable, Fran O’Sullivan on the other hand is reprehensible because she’s someone who should damn well know better! Hosking is a hairstyle looking for gel and is the intellectual equivalent of unprocessed sewage, O’Sullivan is a genuine thinker who has no excuses!
The Prime Minister has been painted as a craven servant of the White House – a United States lapdog happy to send New Zealand troops into harm’s way to serve America’s Middle East interests.
It is an outrageously naive and insulting allegation, but one which will leave John Key smarting.
BUT IT’S TRUE! That Golf game wasn’t just for shits and giggles Fran. NZ is a member of 5 Eyes, the most powerful surveillance program ever devised. For getting to be part of that Club of Poison, we have to pay the piper and when you dance with the devil, the Devil doesn’t change, you do.
Key’s love affair with America and need to keep them happy was abundantly apparent when he green lighted Kim Dotcom’s demise, when he gave Warners Bros everything they wanted, when he kept pushing for the TPPA despite us getting bugger all for it. Key’s clear subordination to America can’t be written off as ‘outrageously naive and insulting’ Fran, from his Letterman Top 10 list to his 8 hour golf game with the most powerful man on earth, Key has built his reputation as a close friend of the United States, the very second holding up the efforts Key has used to ingratiate himself to the US is no longer politically palatable you suddenly want to write that criticism off.
It is also an extraordinary reflection on the New Zealand body politic – and journalists – that they cannot rise above the reflexive anti-Americanism that remains embedded here despite successive bi-partisan measures by Helen Clark’s and Key’s governments to normalise relations with Washington and look at the wider picture before casting their stones.
Your shock is that Journalists have woken up and starting to openly criticise the case for war because it’s so wafer thin. Perhaps there was some reflection on their role after the Dirty Politics fiasco over the holidays at their own part in empowering Slater and his political sadists and they’ve decided to grow some spine.
Committing the New Zealand military to Iraq is the right thing to do.
No. It’s. Not.
Not simply from a moral purpose – although that is highly important – but also because it is rational.
Adding more violence to re-invade a country that has fallen into this situation because America invaded it under false pretences is neither moral or rational.
The establishment of an Islamic caliphate with its barbaric terrorist tentacles spreading out through the Western world is against our national interest, our freedoms and democratic way of life.
Less reds under the beds, more terrorist under the burqa huh Fran? Come on, this sort of rhetoric is for Michael Laws or Cameron Slater. Who is funding this group Fran? How do radicals like this come about? What is the environment necessary for them to foster in? Fran is smart enough to know the answers to those questions.
The New Zealand public gets this.
As a pioneer culture NZ’s negative egalitarianism puts more importance on a good pair of hands than a good brain, them ‘getting’ going to war is bullshit at best. Our graves are full of men who had no idea what they were facing.
New Zealand’s forthcoming deployment is not illegitimate.
Our Government and military have all the legal cover they need through the United Nations’ “Responsibility to Protect” doctrine.
If the Security Council itself will not provide appropriate resolutions, Governments – like ours – can simply cite the doctrine and step in where Iraq is clearly not up to the protecting of its citizens from Isis’ rampant barbarity.
Key has stepped up.
We will not make a jot of difference being there, you know that Fran. America spent $25billion on trying to train Iraqi Army, the same Army that committed so many atrocities that people fled into the arms of ISIS. Our last deployment in Afghanistan saw us possibly committing war crimes by handing over civilians to known torture units, this deployment will risk NZers lives and ask our soldiers to commit acts that may well breach the rules of war and for what? A smug sense of superiority?
Fran O’Sullivan is better than this and NZ used to be better than this.