If Key knows who Rawshark is…

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If Key knows who Rawshark is – when will the Police raid his house for 10 hours?

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I’m sorry, what?

John Key ‘given Rawshark’s name’
The Prime Minister believes he knows who hacked Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater’s computer and produced the source material for Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics, according to a new edition of a recently published biography of John Key.

Who told him? Cameron Slater? And when he was told, was he being told as the Prime Minister with GCSB oversight and the ability to pressure the intelligence services into finding out for him, or was he told as the leader the National Party?

If Key knows who Rawshark is – when will the Police raid his house for 10 hours?

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28 Comments

  1. dwnats says:

    Sometime in 2314.

  2. FreeManNZ FreeManNZ says:

    You raise a very good question. Also, how legal is it to withhold information that might aid an active police inquiry?

    I love (and by that I mean hate) the way John Key is revising his own biography. Nothing speaks more to the man’s arrogance. He’s trying to ‘write his own narrative’ by adding information to the book John Roughan has already written about him. I thought this was the sort of thing only communist dictators or fascist autocrats were meant to do. The man doesn’t know facts, only perception. He’s a foreigner to the land of truth and must be held accountable for his actions and inaction.

    • countryboy says:

      @ FreeManNZ , you say …

      ” He’s a foreigner to the land of truth and must be held accountable for his actions and inaction. ”

      I see it as we’re more the foreigners in a Land of Lies .

      And one day , when jonky becomes so emboldened that when his arrogance will spill out is many well kissed orifices , it is Us who will be trying to lie to protect ourselves .

      ( Just like WINZ automatically criminalises every beneficiary because beneficiaries don’t get enough money to live on . Therefore , they must do crime , i.e. earn un taxed monies and/ or other monies derived from untraceable sources , like crime , to survive . In a land of plenty I might add . )

      When is jonky crossing the Rubicon I wonder ? On what dark day will he just round up us , the dissenters , and chuck us into prison ?

      Rubicon |ˈruːbɪk(ə)n, -kɒn|
      a stream in NE Italy which marked the ancient boundary between Italy and Cisalpine Gaul. Julius Caesar led his army across it into Italy in 49 bc, breaking the law forbidding a general to lead an army out of his province, and so committing himself to war against the Senate and Pompey. The ensuing civil war resulted in victory for Caesar after three years.

      • [ as noun ] a point of no return: on the way to political union we are now crossing the Rubicon.

      Unless we figure out a way to curb his enthiusiasm , he’ll stomp us to death . Well , he won’t . If he’s as cowardly as his mincing suggests he’ll get others to do his dirty work for him . ( What , about that comment sounds familiar ??? )

    • Annebee says:

      But, he`s always said he isn`t interested in the truth, only the law.

  3. We Know What you Did says:

    Did you know inciting suicide is a crime?

    Did you know that plotting with a group of three or more people to pressure someone to kill themselves is also a crime of conspiracy?

    Have you got a good lawyer?

    • Andrea says:

      Have you also posted this on the website for the Ministry of Social Development? And IRD?

      It might save some poor citizen-wretch from taking desperate action.

  4. XRAY says:

    From the great man himself John Key via his revised and living biography…….”Labour would run an attack story – they’d come across a picture of me at a function with some Asian individual who had done something wrong – and Jason would go looking for a picture of the Labour leader standing next to him to provide a bit of balance. It was largely a defensive role.”

    Here we go, “Jason” was just being helpful and balanced. For fuck sake the bullshit is piling up to ceiling height, the spin ,the whatever you want to call it but it’s coming thick and fast and at about the time there has been a mass OIA dump on other subjects to semi clear the log jam that occurred in the months prior to the election where National held it all up.

    And Dame Jenny Gibbs pulled her contribution to Creative New Zealand’s entry in the 2015 Biennale at Venice next year after Berlin-based New Zealand artist Simon Denny recruited Hager as a researcher on his Secret Power exhibition.

    In a second phase favours from the rich and apparently influential are now being called in. One would have thought a worried Dame Jenny would have pulled support for National or ACT, one and the same of course but no, the estranged wife of one of ACT’s founders and a philanthropist donor to ACT is more worried about Hager. Its subtle and appears terribly dignified but where is the outrage over the corruption of this government?

    • Kate Kate says:

      Exactly why I don’t bother with the ridiculous farce called the ‘art scene’ in N.Z. Farts and tarts who have never worked a day in their lives with money who decide after having nothing better to do than an art history degree and get onto a board judging art competitions after giving money to the art ‘charity’. It’s totally pathetic just institutionalised snobby idiots, with zero practical clue, but this doesn’t stop them. Every comp is rigged one way or the other in N.Z. And who can be bothered with creative N.Z, a zillion forms later only the chosen few from the most bullshit art schools are ‘selected’, only because they uphold the sleazy little group of academic teachers who never sold any work and have hardly any originality just bumming money and fake respect from this convenient snobby elite little circle of arse kissing idiots. That’s N.Z for ya, a kiwi like me doesn’t get a look in, funny as my work sells for good money all over the world, without winning bullshit competitions by bullshit judging panels or being given money from creative N.Z or fellowships or residencies or any other institutional silly crap that all the ‘in the group’ artists live on while they ponder their next boring show off event. You can be sure the tarts and farts will be there chinging glasses together at the opening of the show off event, all feeling so smug with themselves. Yawn!

  5. we shall watch and wait, and wait, and wait, but we have long memories, so we will remember.

  6. mary_a says:

    OK then, if Key thinks he knows the identity of Rawshark, why didn’t he tell the police? That would have spared Nicky Hager and his family unnecessary harassment, through having their home invaded by police officers for ten hours!

    If Key is in possession of information relating to this issue, then he should be made to reveal it, like anyone else would be forced to do so! In similar circumstances, the rest of us would be charged with withholding information from police!

    So I hope Key is questioned by the police over this one! Ha ha, joke of course 🙁

    Key is playing games I suspect, to enforce the ‘power’ he holds! A dangerous game!

  7. Andy K says:

    Why is such important information released in a revised edition of his biography? Assuming this is credible information.

    The previous edition of his biography can often be seen on sale, not readily moving anywhere. Considering the Key cult of (no) personality, it appears they plan to cash-in on it.

    At this rate what next? Key The Magazine? His own television show?

    Plastic Prime Minister, plastic people, plastic country. Probably why it needs a new flag.

  8. Pete says:

    “The Prime Minister John Key says he won’t reveal the name given to him as the identity of the hacker known as Rawshark, and won’t pass it on to police.” Herald

    In his book Mr Key is quoted as saying: “Someone phoned and told me who the hacker was, but other than having a look at this person…”

    Someone called? Did they or is he lying? Again.

    Because someone called and said who Rawshark was, does that make it true? Was it some scumbag trying to cause problems for someone else? Or maybe a jest?

    “Other than having a look” means what? Did Key track the person down and “have a look” ? How? Or get his security people to have a look? Or get OUR security services people to have a look? And if he got someone else to have a look, were they having a look for him as a Prime Minister, as the leader of the National Party or a participant in dirty politics?

    Now the debate is about Rawshark rather than corruption in Government showing how easily the political narrative is captured by Prime Ministerial bullshit.

  9. Mike in Auckland says:

    Why does Key not go and tell the police?

    Well, it seems rather clear then, that he must be extremely concerned about what Rawshark, or the person presumed to be such, may release about Key if arrested.

    There is really NO other logical explanation for Key’s conduct. If he really knows, or has sufficient reasons to suspect, who the alleged hacker is, then Key would have every motivation to inform the police, had John Key himself a “clean slate” so to say.

    The only reason for Key not revealing Rawshark is that he fears the hacker knows so much about Key’s illegal own conduct, and that he will have kept some evidence somewhere, that will come back too bite Key, so he will be gone by nightfall, if the truth comes out.

    The media are either dumb to simply take Key’s word for what he says about not wanting to bother informing the police, or the media themselves do again also have NO interest, to cause some of their own members any harm, hence they are not putting pressure on Key to reveal the information.

    • Seagull says:

      …or Key is even more scared of what Hager has on him independently of Rawshark ….and he wants to keep Hager’s computer and files …to either pry into them or keep Hager away from them and in court fighting for them rather than carrying on with his research

  10. Mike in Auckland says:

    Why does Key not go and tell the police?

    Well, it seems rather clear then, that he must be extremely concerned about what Rawshark, or the person presumed to be such, may release about Key if arrested.

    There is really NO other logical explanation for Key’s conduct. If he really knows, or has sufficient reasons to suspect, who the alleged hacker is, then Key would have every motivation to inform the police, had John Key himself a “clean slate” so to say.

    The only reason for Key not revealing Rawshark is that he fears the hacker knows so much about Key’s illegal own conduct, and that he will have kept some evidence somewhere, that will come back too bite Key, so he will be gone by nightfall, if the truth comes out.

    The media are either dumb to simply take Key’s word for what he says about not wanting to bother informing the police, or the media themselves do again also have NO interest, to cause some of their own members any harm, hence they are not putting pressure on Key to reveal the information.

    And we know, that the police will NEVER raid John Key’s home, that is simply “tapu”.

  11. Dale says:

    If the pm should tell the police then so should Hagar.

    • wild katipo says:

      ^ Always a joker from the right wing , really , – it gets sillier and sillier the more they try and justify themselves.

      It would make a smash hit comedy joke book that would hit the charts for months and months.

      Alas , silly person…the little man in the office atop the beehive is not a journalist , …and ,- as a judge HAS ruled …Hagers book has generated PUBLIC INTEREST.

      Which means , silly person , that Hager can under law , claim journalistic priveledge. Key is not a journalist. He is a law breaker.

      He is a liar.

      He is a fraud.

      He is corrupt.

      And he certainly pisses his pants laughing at silly , naive little stooges like you who ACTUALLY believe his tripe.

  12. Vicky Robertson says:

    John Key said “a member of the public” phoned him just before the election to tell him who Rawshark was, and he kept it to himself as he thought the public had had enough of ‘dirty politics’.
    I find it incredible that s member of the public could even phone him directly – this doesn’t ring true to me.

  13. Wild Katipo says:

    Seems the little man who sits in the Prime Ministers ‘office’ knows a little too much for his own good,now ,doesn’t he?

    Maybe someone called his ‘office’….and his ‘office’ cant be bothered so elected to withhold information from the police. Or maybe the police got a call from his ‘office’ .

    It must be a very big and dirty office…with all these dirty people …it needs a clean I think….perhaps the cleaners gave up because the filth was so great…and their wages wouldn’t cover the hours needed to clean it.

    When the ‘changes’ happen to our society, …and sanity is restored once more…that office will be clean. And all the dirty people in it will be living in a tax payer sponsored residence in Mt Eden.

    But therein lies the problem…..How can a neo liberal live with himself in a tax payer sponsored residence in Mt Eden ???

    • Pete says:

      “…How can a neo liberal live with himself in a tax payer sponsored residence in Mt Eden ??? ”

      Don’t fret, it’s in Epsom, and mystifying is normal there! Witness the MPs they give us.

    • cleangreen says:

      Hey Wild Katipo send me, cleangreen in there I have the right handle to do the job.

      I sent approx’ 100 emails to FJK over six years so then maybe I can find why he never replied to me!

      But seemed to use this “member of the public at their word but not mine. Doesn’t ring true does it.

      Why hasn’t the media gone ballistic on this?

  14. John says:

    Key is not saying who gave him Rawshark’s name – he is protecting his sources lol!

  15. Barry says:

    I would say if Key knows who Rawshark is he will be under GCSB surveillance by now. I image that JK and his henchmen will be biding their time, like everyone else who dares to expose and challenge this government he will be stamped on in due course.

  16. Save NZ says:

    I think that might just be another lie by our beloved leader. Another form of intimidation. If they knew who he was he would be arrested by now. Can’t have the little guy beating the system. Let’s pretend he did not to terrorize others who might do the same. Classic Crosby Textor.

  17. Dale says:

    Rawshark has been wackt. Jon Key did it.


 
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