UPDATE: When will Kelvin Davis learn how to count? Why the NZ Left need to focus

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Bloody Kelvin Davis. I’ve read the emails that are between Kelvin’s team and the Labour Party HQ. It’s as embarrassing as watching checkers players attempting to play chess. Labour head office is trying to kindly let down an electorate team punching well outside its weight class.

Honestly, it’s amateur hour in the Te Tai Tokerau Labour Party electorate office.

There’s no point in belittling Kelvin, but honestly, strategy and basic math just aren’t your strength Kelv, stick to your original plan of wanting to speak up for the women and children impacted by domestic violence. That was honourable, decent and worthy, this is base, cheap and stupid. Your ambition is running way ahead of your ability at this stage champ.

The reality is that there is no need for a ‘secret deal’ between Labour and Internet MANA in Hone’s electorate or Annette’s electorate because internal polling is showing both of them polling well ahead of any other challenger. If they continue working as hard as they are right now, they will win both those seats.

I’m beyond being angered by Labour’s Right wing refusal to share the sandpit like spoilt children, and think this latest attempt to destabilise from the ABCs should be ignored. Labour need to win the centre ground and Internet MANA needs to appreciate that they won’t get 30 000 state houses, feed the kids, repeal the GCSB and TICS legislation or lift public investment into internet infrastructure if National are in power post September 20th.

There’s no point in aiming for 2017 when quarter of a million kids are in poverty in 2014.

We need to win THIS election. Now.

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While some Labour Party supporters view Kim Dotcom suspiciously, let’s wait until the revelations reveal what they do. Those Labour Party voters may be doing a lot more cheering than they are jeering.

Labour need to hit 32% for a chance to form a Government and 34% to ensure Cunliffe is Prime Minister.  They will do that by making the Middle Class feel middle class again with strong education and jobs policy. That’s fine.

Where the genuinely progressive legislation will come from is the Greens and Internet MANA.

Who is Government is all a math game. Labour + Greens could never form a majority, Labour + Green + Internet MANA can.

Labour 32% – Greens 15% – Internet MANA 3.5%

A progressive majority is within NZs grasp and while the Right descend into a vicious bloodbath which might kill off the Maori Party, ACT, Conservative Party AND NZ First, progressives should seize the opportunity to press on with a united front that avoids stepping on each others toes because we may need to dance together as a Government after the election.

 

UPDATE: And then the little clown goes and does this

Kelvin Davis continues anti-Internet Mana campaign
Labour MP Kelvin Davis is continuing his campaign against Internet Mana, taking to Facebook to vent his frustrations.

…honestly, watching Kelvin Davis self mutilate his chances in the next Government makes Jamie Whyte’s ignorance on Native Affairs last night look positively brilliant in comparison. What part of ‘pull your head in mate’ doesn’t Kelvin seem to get?

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  1. You can’t blame Kelvin for trying to be elected to parliament. Unfortunately with Labour polling in the mid twenties, he’ll be struggling to get in the list.

      • Let’s be honest though. The Roy Morgan polls are all over the place like a mad women’s piss.

        Next poll is jut as likely to have Labour at 25%. Totally unreliable.

        • David – no. Roy Morgan is the more accurate of the polls as it is not solely reliant on contacting respondents through landlines.

          After all, other polls have National at 50-55% – which is patently ridiculous.

          Roy Morgan is more comprehensive and reliable.

          • “Roy Morgan is more comprehensive and reliable.” – why?

            Simply because it gives you the answer you want to hear? Such silly statements make you look foolish and idiotic, Frank.

            The RM poll often sees wild swings in both left and right directions in a very short space of time. Just look at the chart on their website. The fluctuations are all over the place.

            • Mark – in very simple terms you can understand, Roy Morgan is more comprehensive and reliable because it polls citizens on cellphones, not just landlines.

              When up to 14.5% of the population do not have a landline (http://fmacskasy.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/census-surveys-and-cellphones-part-rua/), then that is a serious issue in relation to the reliability of solely-landline-calling pollsters.

              Couple that to Undecideds/Won’t Say respondents – and you can toss poll results from Digipoll, Colmar Brunton, Ipsos, etc, out the window.

              “Simply because it gives you the answer you want to hear?”

              Not at all. A July 16 Roy Morgan poll had National at 51%. Not quite what I wanted to see – but something that the Left has to take very seriously.

              “The RM poll often sees wild swings in both left and right directions in a very short space of time. Just look at the chart on their website. The fluctuations are all over the place. “

              Perhaps because as issues are raised; scandals made public; and certain smear campaigns unleashed, people react accordingly to polls?

              Example; I’ve now changed my response to pollsters who call me, on which party I now support.

              I trust that has addressed the concerns you expressed?

  2. Similar economic and welfare policies, and both refuse to make a stand against climate change or genocide in Gaza

    Nabour and Lactional Parties now have something else in common, hatred of the Left, as they cosy up to each other to smash the Mana Party.

    http://mana.net.nz/2014/08/labour-sells-out-to-national/

    MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira when told of emails suggesting Kelvin Davis’ campaign team in Tai Tokerau was planning to launch an attack campaign against him with money solicited from National. “Changing the government is going to be tough enough – it’ll be bloody impossible if Labour does dirty deals with National” said Harawira. – See more at: http://mana.net.nz/2014/08/labour-sells-out-to-national/#sthash.1clohSrT.dpuf

    If the Lactional Party achieves their ends then they may leave themselves short of the numbers to govern, but no matter they will still get to receive their parliamentary salaries on the opposition benches, and with out having to have the stress of fronting up to push through the Right Wing policies both Lactional and Nabour support.

    • I think its important to discern between the ABC agitators that are dragging Labour’s anchor and those in the Labour party who wish to see a return to its ideological roots.

  3. Mr davis does not speak for the majority of tai tokerau! Who cares if kim shows up in a limo? we dont! Who cares if his garage is bigger and better than our houses? We dont! We want fairness in applying for jobs, houses, social services! We werent bought up to want the newest shiniest sparkliest thing! We just want our children to have the best possible start, to engage with education at a young age, to be valued in their schools. It shows you how disengaged the current govt and labour are if they think kim and hone are doing a snowjob on us in tai tokerau, they have policies that are important to us, returning dignity to us, this is not something that the govt thinks is important, cant wait for sept 🙂

  4. *sigh*

    I despair at the likes of Kelvin Davis and other twats in the Labour Party. The enemy is over there *points right* not their potential coalition partners.

    If Labour cannot demonstrate it can work collegially and constructively with potential allies before the election – why should the public believe they can work well with others post election?

    This has been one of John Key’s major strengths; he can demonstrate National’s ability to work with other minor parties. Key doesn’t slag them off. National candidates don’t attack other right wing parties or their people.

    Labour has yet to learn this salient lesson.

    • Well we know which parties to vote for now, if we want change. There is little hope in Labour, as it is too divided and out of control, it seems that Kelvin Davis was able to put so much pressure on David Cunliffe, so Cunliffe made the announcement that there will be no involvement of Internet Mana in a Labour led government.

      The only hope now is, to drum up support for a massive vote for the Greens, so the Greens will replace Labour as main opposition party.

      Others may vote IMP, but I fear they may just be lucky if they get 5 percent. Hone may now have a better chance to win his electorate seat, as the dirty tactics by Kelvin may well backfire, and turn more voters to IMP, rather than Kelvin and Labour.

      This election will shake up the whole political landscape, I think, and small parties will be the winners.

  5. https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/24630470/labour-considered-smear-campaign-report/

    Labour’s campaign team in TE Tai Tokerau considered seeking donations from National supporters and running a smear campaign against Internet Mana, according to a 3News report.

    The report said leaked emails showed the campaign team didn’t see National as the enemy – the real enemy was Mana Party leader Hone Harawira, one of Labour’s potential coalition partners.

    Mana has forged an election alliance with the Internet Party, and the report said Labour candidate Kelvin Davis and his team set up a website which was intended to run a smear campaign.

    The party shut it down because it was “too negative”.

    • There we have it ladies and gentlemen…what more evidence do we need?

      Here we have a member of a supposed left leaning party (Labour) , receiving support ( financial , media coverage ) from the right wing National party.

      Several things can be gleaned from this.

      One is: Davis cares more about being in the seat of power than he does about any ideological concerns of his own party.

      Second..the fact he will even consider donations from his political enemies shows he is not inline with even his own party – or the Left.

      Thirdly …His gripe against Dotcom should be seen for what it is : a political convenience whereby he knows a significant amount of Labour member (particularly the ABC’s) remain more concerned with competition on the left than changing this disgusting govt.

      So all in all the evidence speaks for itself : Not only is Davis NOT TO BE TRUSTED , but that he is ,…. in fact , a fifth columnist from the right wing.

      It is sad that the Left cannot purge and extricate these subversives from their house totally at this election…but in time….I am positive that quiet moves will be afoot to restructure in order to neutralize these destructive elements.

      For these traitors…they had best hope that the Left doesnt win… or if they do…no matter what or how…their days will be numbered in parliament.

      • I mentioned Davis ‘s gripe against Dotcom because by implication … Davis is hoping to form a beachhead against the whole Internet Mana movement.

        I would suggest he must be running very , very scared in order to not only look like an idiot publicly ,….but also to be such a Quisling.

  6. http://mana.net.nz/2014/08/harawira-calls-for-apology-from-labour/

    “We may be on different parties, but our people want this to be a campaign of ideas and values, our people do not want this to be the dirty and underhand campaign that Kelvin has made it into.”

    “Since this story broke last night I have had heaps of calls from our people up north who are gutted by what Kelvin has done, and a lot of them are Labour voters.”

    “Our people are really hurt by what Kelvin has done, and they are angry with him for not being man enough to apologise for it.”

    “So I am asking the president of the Labour Party to issue an apology to my people in the Tai Tokerau for the dirty tricks campaign that Kelvin has been waging, and a formal declaration that it will not happen again.”

    – See more at: http://mana.net.nz/2014/08/harawira-calls-for-apology-from-labour/#sthash.uRhsRCQ5.dpuf

  7. So what do you all think and say now? Kelvin Davis has had his rant on Facebook, but also appears to have put pressure on David Cunliffe, and in the afternoon of 05 August 2014 David Cunliffe announces, there will be no involvement or participation of Internet Mana in a Labour led government.

    In the morning this interview was broadcast by Radio NZ National:
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/20144326/dotcom-says-he-would-never-have-started-party-if-there-had-been-no-raid

    In it Kim Dotcom expressed his hope or expectation, that Internet Mana would bring in a new government, with Labour.

    How will Kim feel now?

    I smell some betrayal of sorts, and detect heaps of tensions within Labour, and fear that David Cunliffe is not in charge of things, yes is basically under constant pressure from within, he is like being held hostage now.

    So Kelvin Davis was let off the hook after all, as a “telling off” would sound and look different to me.

    I am sorry, but some plans for the campaign may have to be rewritten now. Labour is firmly in control of the ABCers!

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