Today – we are all Palestinians

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For 66 years the Palestinian people have been brutalised by an apartheid Israeli government. The ground offensive begun this morning is just a continuation of murder and mayhem Israel has visited upon Palestinians every day since 1948.

For example on average every three days over the past 13 years a Palestinian child had been murdered by Israel. You’d never know that reading our mainstream media which are little more than propaganda mouthpieces for Israel just as the media were once propaganda outlets for the racist white South African government.

The firing of rockets from Gaza into Israel has never been the issue. They are a symptom of the real problem which is Israel’s brutal military occupation of the West Bank; its medieval siege of Gaza; its on-going theft of Palestinian land; its apartheid wall; its murder of Palestinians on a daily basis…

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The only thing for humanity to celebrate from all this is the heroism of the Palestinian people. Their spirit ofindomitable determination and resistance will win through in the end.
Our job in New Zealand is to stand squarely with the Palestinian people and isolate the apartheid Israeli government and its vile and inhuman policies and practices.
Let’s show the brutal bullies that we stand with Palestinians.
We are all Palestinians!

26 COMMENTS

  1. I’m totally against the Israeli offensive, i’m also totally against Hamas continuing to fire missiles into Israel.

    Seems to me that neither side learns anything and the people in the middle suffer for the prejudices and faults of their leaders yet again.

  2. New Zealand wants a place on the Security Council? What a joke!

    Where are the diplomats, politicians and political commentators in New Zealand, who were so quick to get shots of Key and Obama shaking hands? And the main stream media again, don’t have a script from the National Party newsmakers to make their mouths move and are all missing in-action.

    The media are on holiday on this one. Why aren’t the National Party spin doctors wheeling out Key with a maitai in one hand and an olive branch in another saying what he would do if NZ were on the UN Security Council (once he gets back from holiday).

    National party wants all the kudos of being on the UN Security Council, but with none of the dirty hands pulling out Palestinian women and children from the rubble. It’s a National disgrace. First country to give women the vote. First country to declare itself nuclear free, first country to stand up against apartheid.

    Missing in action on the murder of the innocents as collateral damage in Palestine.

  3. You may see yourself as a “Palestinian” today, but do not assume with clichéd statements that your countrymen stand united with you.

    I do not. While Hamas ruthlessly controls Palestine, I never will.

    At the same time you are protesting against Israel and blaming them for the latest crisis, will you demand:

    1. Hamas stop firing rockets indiscriminately into a sovereign nations territory trying to murder Israelis (including women and children)?
    2. Hamas renounce their policy seeking the destruction of Israel and the murder of millions of people because they are not of their faith?
    3. Hamas unreservedly apologise for it’s agents brutally murdering 3 children and setting off this whole sorry chain of events?

    Since you are out protesting to “stop murder” will your protests also include demands that:

    1. The Ba’athist regime in Damascus stop murdering tens-of-thousands of their citizens including women and children?
    2. The ISIS regime in Iraq stop murdering tens-of-thousands of POW’s and (worse) Shia Muslims including thousands of women and children?
    3. The Russian government stop giving heavy weapons to drunken separatist militias in the Ukraine who use them to shoot down commercial airliners and murder over 270 civilians including women and children?
    4. That Russia withdraw from Crimea and return sovereignty to Ukraine, as their invasion and occupation has no legitimacy?
    5. That Russia pay reparations for those murdered and injured, including women and children, by its agents and actions in Crimea and Ukraine?
    6. That Russia withdraws from interfering in Ukrainian sovereignty and politics, and stops encouraging pro-Russian militia groups, who are very close to performing acts of ethnic cleansing in eastern Ukraine?
    7. That Boko Haram returns to their families the thousands of children taken as slaves?
    8. That Boko Haram stop targeting civilians and murdering tens-of-thousands of civilians, particularly women and children?

    Or is your noble protest simply about letting people know you are annoyed with Israel, once again?

    • Jim I am always slightly astonished about people like you who seem to think Minto should be on the frontline for every single injustice in the world. You have listed 8 things you seem to think he should be organising a protest about. For goodness sake get of your arse and organise them yourself I am sure others will join you, Minto works fulltime as a teacher and manages to spend much of his time when not teacing campaigning for things he believes in, It is hardly your job to decide which things he should campaign on. Please let me know which campaigns / protests you have ever organised. No one thinks Hamas is ‘RIGHT’ but the 3 billion dollars the U.S. send to Israel ever single year to support their ongoing subjection of Palestinians and invasion of Palestinian territory is appalling. Israel has killed a child every 3 days for the past 13 years, we don’t seem to hear anything of this in the media.

    • Jim Peters says:
      July 18, 2014 at 12:33 pm

      At the same time you are protesting against Israel and blaming them for the latest crisis, will you demand: blah, blah, f*****g blah

      […]

      I do not. While Hamas ruthlessly controls Palestine, I never will.

      Peter, two things.

      1. Hamas was democratically elected to govern Palestine. I guess that fact has eluded you? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/26/AR2006012600372.html

      Easy to understand how you missed that. I mean, it only happened last week, in 2006.

      2. Of all those things you demand John Minto to do, how about you get off your fat lazy arse and organise something youreself?! What the hell is up with your over-inflated sense of entitlement that someone else should do all the work?

      Criticising others for doing stuff while you do shack-jit just makes you look like a useless, carping hypocrite.

      Let us know when you organise your first protest. (But I doubt it.)

      Have a nice day.

  4. You may see yourself as a “Palestinian” today, but do not assume with clichéd statements that your countrymen stand united with you.

    I do not. While Hamas ruthlessly controls Palestine, I never will.

    At the same time you are protesting against Israel and blaming them for the latest crisis, will you demand:

    1. Hamas stop firing rockets indiscriminately into a sovereign nation’s territory trying to murder Israelis (including women and children)?
    2. Hamas renounce their policy seeking the destruction of Israel and the murder of millions of people because they are not of their faith?
    3. Hamas unreservedly apologise for its agents brutally murdering 3 children and setting off this whole sorry chain of events?

    Since you are out protesting to “stop murder” will your protests also include demands that:

    1. The Ba’athist regime in Damascus stop murdering tens-of-thousands of their citizens, particularly women and children?
    2. The ISIS regime in Iraq stop murdering tens-of-thousands of POW’s and (worse) Shia Muslims, including thousands of women and children?
    3. The Russian government stop giving heavy weapons to drunken separatist militias in the Ukraine who use them to shoot down commercial airliners, murdering over 270 civilians, including women and children?
    4. That Russia withdraw from Crimea and return sovereignty to Ukraine, as their invasion and occupation has no legitimacy?
    5. That Russia pay reparations for those murdered and injured, including women and children, by its agents and actions in Crimea and Ukraine?
    6. That Russia stop interfering in Ukrainian sovereignty and politics, and stops encouraging pro-Russian militia groups, who are close to performing acts of ethnic cleansing in eastern Ukraine?
    7. That Boko Haram returns to their families the thousands of children taken as slaves?
    8. That Boko Haram stop targeting civilians and murdering tens-of-thousands of civilians, particularly women and children?

    Or is your noble protest simply about letting people know you are angry with Israel, once again?

    • Look over there. Lots of people are doing bad things. Don’t look at Israel. Hamas is evil – they resent Israel for condemning the people of Gaza to an open air prison. They must be punished for resisting the Zionist program of ethnic cleansing. Any moral person must agree with Israel.

      Pffft. What a load of rubbish, Jim. You side with the bully. The increasingly racist and fascist bully. That evil is happening elsewhere does not excuse Bibi for his cynical moves to terrorise the Palestinian population and expand Eretz Israel.

      Today I’m happy to be Palestinian. To be Palestinian is to be human.

      • “Pffft. What a load of rubbish…” not a particularly intelligent retort. Jim’s raised valid points that you’re unable to answer.

        • I wasn’t aiming for intelligence, but I’d put mine against yours and intrinsiclackofvalue’s combined, any day of the week. Jim raises no valid points. He engages in well known Hasbara diversions.

        • Actually, Andrew, Ovicula didn’t “retort”, he gave a measured response.

          Fact is, every time someone writes something critical of the Israeli government and it’s aggressive, militaristic policies, it attracts the likes of “Jim Peters” and other fellow-travellers of Israel.

          Predictable.

          Ovicula is right; Israel is little more than a murderous bully; a thug that uses it’s military might to blockade the Palestiniand and occupy the West Bank.

          Every time Israel murders a Palestinian, they lose. They lose international support. They lose any claim to the moral high-ground. They lose any pretence at “self defence”.

          How do I know this? Because once upon a time I was as pro-Israel as they come. But every offensive measure Israel took against the Palestinians, including building settlements on the West Bank, and I came to realise who the real thugs are.

          There will come a time when Israel suffers greatly for it’s on-going crimes, and most of the world will not give a shit.

      • If the Palestinians hadn’t opened fire on Israel within hours of Israel withdrawing from Gaza in 2005, there would be no retaliation. Don;t poke the bear, it bites back.

        • Your support for militarism and the suppression of a defenceless people is noted, Anonymous ACT Supporter Intrinsicvalue. You obviously care nothing for those people who are suffering at the hands of an aggressor.

          No wonder you hide behide a pseudonym. I’d be ashamed to voice support for a bully as well.

  5. One of the many bits that people like you John leave out is history.

    The allied powers (and mainly Britain) setup the state of Israel after the war. Yes I know one could argue that they didnt actually set it up – but their actions resulted in that happening. Its thus rather blind to then start blaming the Israelis for that fact. Think of the millions of jews slaughtered across Europe and Russia and then put yourself in their boots. ie: the allies tell them to go to palestine – so what would you do. Tell them to go screw? No – you wouldn’t.

    Now that doesnt mean that the Israeli state can do no wrong – but one has to wonder about the mentality of the likes of Hamas who seem to setup regular rocket dispatches into Israel knowing very well what the reaction will be.

    Knowing that the israeli’s will retaliate one could only conclude that if the Hamas guys are sending rockets from areas of high non-combatant population – then you would have to say that they are responsible for war crimes.

    • …And with your reference to the holocaust, you seem to ignore the absolute hypocrisy and utter evilness of the Israeli state in it’s regime of ethnic cleansing and apartheid against the Palestinian people.

      I am a massive Palestinian sympathiser; I ask you, what would you do if your land kept getting taken off your people and you got treated as a second class citizen? I think you’d be pretty pissed off and probably pretty open to the idea of doing anything you could to try and beat the oppressor, don’t you?

    • A bit of history you left out, Barry, was the German assault on the Warsaw Ghetto. The massed might of the Nazi war machine attacked a weakly-armed Jewish resistance and slaughtered them en masse…

      Sound familiar?

      • A bit of history YOU left out, Barry, was the retaliatory “Allied” incendiary bombing assault on German cities at the very end of the war when the German army was already defeated. The massed might of the “Allied” war machine fire-bombed unarmed German women & children and slaughtered them en masse…

        Then there’s the MASSIVE repeated gang-raping, torture & murder of German women & children of ALL ages in Berlin and elsewhere by the mongrel red hordes that the “allies” let flood in all spurned on by vile propaganda leaflet drops inciting such actions. The red army even raped Russian & Polish women freed from German prisons!

        Then there’s the Holodomor – up to 60 million russians & ukranians murdered by JEWISH bolsheviks. Yes, you read correctly – UP TO 60 MILLION!!!

        There’s WAAAAAAY more we could go over but let’s just end by saying “their” victimization claims absolutely pale in comparison to all the horror & suffering “they” have instigated or inflicted upon the non-jewish world.

  6. Talk wont stop this butchery. Boycott Israel. I notice that Avaaz has a list of firms that they suggest you send protests to. Use it.

  7. Yes the Israeli’s are forced to murder woman and children.

    Or have snipers shoot them.

    They have been forced to kill one Palestinian child every three days for the past 14 years.

    They have even been forced into blowing up Palestinian kids playing on a beach.

    Poor Israeli’s ….having to butcher all these woman and children.

    But shit, it’s so not Israel’s fault ……………. what else can they do ?.

    Eventually reprisals of 100 dead Palestinians for every dead jew will teach them …………. bit of an SS tactic though.

  8. I FEAR, I FEAR, I FEAR for the worst, yes a second holocaust even. What we have is a burning Middle and Near East, we have an unresolved, ruthless, bloody civil war of many divided warring fractions in Syria, we have ethnic and religiously based warfare in Iraq, we have Lebanon dragged into it, we have Egypt on the brink, only controlled by a new military sanctioned regime, we have Libya close to exploding again, we have war between North and South Sudan, we have civil war in Yemen, we have minorities in Saudi Arabia and Iran protesting, and close to rebellion, and we have superpowers now engaged in a close to full blown war scenario in Eastern Europe, where the Ukraine crisis is reaching new levels.

    I do not even dare to mention Georgia, Moldova, the Baltics, Central Asia and Afghanistan, where it is tense or close to exploding.

    Now again, we have Israel march into Gaza, and we have Palestinians, some radicalised, following agendas to break loose hell, for their ends. The only solution there would be a true major UN led crisis summit, to enforce real solutions, but both sides want none of it. Israel has so far been the winning power, for sheer monetary, economic and other power, supported by lobbies in the US and some of Europe. They are far better equipped than the Hamas brigades firing rather primitive missiles into Israel.

    The blood though is let by civilians again, on especially the Palestinian, Gaza side, and it seems, it is all a “price” either side is willing to pay or sacrifice. Israel does not want peace the Hamas or Palestinian way, it wants dominance, and all “peace talking” by their government is mostly hypocritical BS. They will never give up the West Bank, and want no 2 state solution, as they firmly believe that they need to control the territories, for their safety. That is why they promote settlements and use their own brothers and sisters as convenient pawns. It is the Zionist movement behind it, the migrant community, the Aliyah and what they call it.

    It is all about expansion and control, and one side is expected to give up or move. Palestinians are the desperate low paid workers for many Israeli businesses too. It is capitalism at work, same as basically “jewish fascism”. It is nasty stuff, but the “western” media never speaks out the whole truth and volume of what goes on, as they all feel some “obligation” to be considerate to the jewish people, associated with Israel, due to what they suffered during the Nazi and other persecution.

    I see NO solution, I am afraid, It will one day be a ghastly scenario, I wish it could be solved, and with human common sense it could, but the vested interests do NOT want this, and humanity never learns much over generations, and is condemned to repeat history.

    what a sad and shocking story this is!

  9. Recently Westfield Mall management took action against “Premier”, one of these “Dead Sea Cosmetics” intensive marketing groups, who grazed the New Zealand “market” with aggressive marketing for many years. I took issue with them years ago, but then the stupid media would not have anything of it.

    Not long ago they were exposed for using unethical marketing and sales techniques, ripping weak and vulnerable off by the hundreds or thousands of dollars. Once Campbell Live exposed what went on, they all packed their bags within days, evacuated their “kiosks” and FLED the country. No trace is found of them now. They still seem to be doing their business in other places.

    Even years ago it was rumoured that some of the salespeople were also working as Mossad and other Israeli agents, and that they were being “conditioned” or “brain washed” to the extreme, to sell Israeli products (partly from the occupied territories), and to learn the hard game of facing stiff opposition, as “mental training” of future spies. I met some real nasty Premier salespeople, and one Israeli woman really offended me in Newmarket’s 277 Broadway Mall once, ridiculing and insulting Arabs as like being “animals” and “terrorists”, in general terms.

    Yes, that is what has been going on, and it really astonished me, that it took so many years for some to make complaints about these people.

    You can bet that many Israeli soldiers in Gaza now, have also been brain washed, to think they are doing all that is right and necessary, to “fight terrorism”, even while they may have “collateral” human damage, by killing innocent children.

    That is nothing much different from fascism, my dear friends, and the IDF is sadly not protected from the same mistakes some Wehrmacht soldiers made under SS guidance. It is sad and shocking to see history repeated, and once victims turned into perpetrators.

    One can only pray that the worst will not come to happen.

  10. I’ll bet anything the vast majority of people that post comments here are white europeans.

    Are you proud to be a white european today or any other day for that matter?

    If you can’t be proud to be who you actually are & would rather treat your genetic legacy like something you might find in a supermarket pick ‘n’ mix aisle then you have absolutely no right whatsoever adopting someone else’s culture in order to parade your questionable political views that you so obviously wear like a fashion accessory!

    I’ll also bet hardly any of you have ever even stepped anywhere near the soil of the territories you so quickly condemn/defend from the comfort of your desks/lounges/etc. Reality check m*therf*ckers!

      • I didn’t actually pick up any anger from Valerie’s comment just a massive dose of truth! Besides – anger is as valid & valuable an emotion as any of the others and totally justified when dealing with one’s enemies “both domestic & abroad”. It’s how you channel & use that anger to your best advantage that counts 😉

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