Flag referendum good – asset sale referendum bad



Flag referendum good – asset sale referendum bad


  1. I don’t see a referendum on the flag as a waste of money. I simply despise the fact a conservative party is the one calling for it. This is a cause for the proletarian backed parties, not the conservative ones who believe in classism.

    • I think you might be missing the point here. A flag referendum would be a major distraction for the electorate, drawing attention away from issues of inequality and so on. If I was running the Nats, I’d love it. The flag debate can wait. there are far more important concerns facing the country.

  2. This whole issue regarding the flag appears to be a recycled idea from the previous National Government.

    [I]n 1998, as Minister of Cultural Affairs, Hasler called for a debate on whether the New Zealand flag should change. Hasler said at the time that for some years she believed New Zealand’s existing flag no longer caught the essence of contemporary New Zealand. She also argued that the flag is indistinguishable from the Australian flag, and that it reflects New Zealand’s former colonial status. The then Prime Minister, Jenny Shipley, supported Hasler’s view that a new flag for New Zealand could be the Silver fern flag.


    [I]n 1998 Prime Minister Jenny Shipley backed Cultural Affairs Minister Marie Hasler’s call for the flag to be changed. Shipley, along with the New Zealand Tourism Board, backed the quasi-national silver fern flag, using a white silver fern on a black background as a possible alternative flag, along the lines of the Canadian Maple Leaf Flag.


    John Key; Minster of Tourism.

    Jenny Shipley’s role in John Key’s political career:

    [1]998, on learning of his interest in pursuing a political career, the National Party president John Slater began working actively to recruit him. Former party leader Jenny Shipley describes him as one of the people she “deliberately sought out and put my head on the line–either privately or publicly–to get them in there”.


    John Slater, father of Cameron Slater.

    Some interesting info concerning Jenny Shipley:

    [S]hipley also has business interests in China and is currently on the board of the China Construction Bank.

    According to Companies Office records, Jack Chen, Jenny Shipley and another investor founded a business together in 2004 called New Zealand Pure & Natural. Mr Chen quit as a director a year later but only quit his shareholding in 2010. Mr Chen was instrumental in promoting the ‘Chinese Business Roundtable Council’ in NZ, and set up a new political party in NZ, before being forced to resign due to fraud and corruption charges being laid in Hong Kong.

    In 2010 the China Construction Bank agreed to help finance a proposal by May Wang [also known as Hao May] and Jack Chen [also known as Chen Keen] to invest in the New Zealand dairy industry by taking over the Crafar Farms.


    Anyway, whatever the intentions behind this entire flag change scheme, a number of polls overwhelmingly place support behind keeping the current flag. A majority of people appear uninterested with this issue.

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