The Daily Blog tip line is running hot with rumours that the Prime Ministers Office is about to leak to the NZ Herald a list of National Party MPs who are paying consultants who have dark intentions.
The Daily Blog has blogged that there are forces working in the National Party to manufacture the emergence of a hard right Government. This has been backed up by the National Party itself who found one such consultant had a very negative agenda for the Party.
We asked if the Aaron Gilmore affair was an inside political hit job,and after that, the PMs office has done some fishing and have found plans put together by some of these consultants that one inside source said “if these ever found their way into the hands of Nicky Hager, it would be over for National’.
The National Party hierarchy believe they can further their agenda via soft selling the changes as opposed to a semi-fascist one and have made the decision to leak to the Herald to kill this off.
The anti-reactionary centrists want to put all that reactionary influence outside the Party and place it with the Conservative Party (expect a deal for Colin Craig in Rodney), where as the pro-reactionary clique want to kill off the Conservatives to keep that extremism within the Party.
Expect the next couple if weeks to be bumpy for National.
Sounds like Lusk and Slater getting ideas above their station.
Fascism never sleeps.
Could be right Martyn this on scoop http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1305/S00464/the-nation-moving-national-to-the-right.htm
?!?!
Is that media release really from “The Nation”???
Have you seen the way it’s written with all the typos?!
Yea I noticed, hence ‘Could’ looks like it was written on android or something 😛
And I watched the Nation with bated breath, and the only part worth watching was Meteria Turei’s Interview. And the interview she gave on Q+A this morning was very good too. Then Bennett came on and it almost became an argument on whether or not they are able to count the total amount of children in poverty, and how and which way is best to count them to count them. Nothing on how to alleviate the problem. I was also disappointed in the interviewer too who seemed happy to talk over Meteria, but let Bennett rattle on.
Time to grab the popcorn and enjoy the fireworks.
Whatever the dark plot is it doesn’t surprise me the slightest, only to be expected.
Moving National even further to the right?
Um, ok. If that’s how badly they want to lose the next election, good on’em.
Unless half of all New Zealanders are more quasi-fascist than I ever believed possible, this will not end well for the Nats.
Me, on the other hand, will be breaking open a bottle of bubbly to celebrate!
“a list of National Party MPs who are paying consultants who have dark intentions”
Wouldn’t that be all of them?
sorry had to say it…
Centrist pretense; gone by lunchtime.
Another thing, out my way over the last two weeks I was wondering what was going on with the military presence in the region. Turned out it was this:
Joint military exercise a success – NZDF (31/05/13)
http://www.3news.co.nz/Joint-military-exercise-a-success—NZDF/tabid/423/articleID/299856/Default.aspx
A month-long military exercise involving more than 1000 defence personnel from around the world, wrapped up earlier this week in the North Island.
The New Zealand Army and Royal New Zealand Air Force’s Exercise Alam Halfa took place in Waiouru, Tararua and Wairarapa.
The Kiwi soldiers were joined by the Canadian, US and British armies and the US Marine Corps to “enact a common conflict scenario of insurgents trying to overthrow a government”.
The exercise involved live firing drills, pre-deployment training and field exercises, which aimed to ensure New Zealand’s soldiers keep their skills “sharp and relevant” for contemporary operations.
Maybe I can be accused of being alarmist by raising this as an issue here. But I have to admit I felt uneasy seeing soldiers in town with their firearms standing on top of the library or outside shops as well as the sound of helicopters from morning until fairly late in the night. Never in my lifetime have I experienced anything like it. The sight kind of reminded me of the film Sleeping Dogs.
Just something to think about when you consider the objective of this military exercise along with the content of this post and the link provided by DAVIDJ above. Maybe I’m just foolish, well I hope so in the long run.
Yes you are being foolish. When was the last time Western nations used their armed forces to intervene in a Western nation?
Another person who has not actually seen the film I take it?
I’m not in the business of devising conspiracy theories and I’m not going to. But hearing suggestions/rumours of influences/factions in National working for a government more to the right is concerning for those not inclined that way. Heck, I would say this government is right-wing enough judging by recent developments: authorisation for increased spying powers; authorisation of military policing of protests at sea; “terrorism” and “economic wellbeing” and an opposition branded as “far-left” rather liberally. Consider many controversial law changes being rammed through Parliament under urgency, which now seems like the norm.
On my home turf I’m aware of the occasional military exercise over the decades in the region, usually visible only by a modest number of Army trucks going along the motorway at the beginning and end. But going about your usual business in your little idyllic rural town and seeing soldiers with guns around the place kind of freaked me out, standing on top of the library and outside shops for most of the day. Never thought I would witness anything like it in this country. Recent political developments in the back of your mind probably assisted the freak-out factor. I personally hate seeing anyone toting guns around and find it somewhat offensive, I would prefer if they wanted to play soldier games take it elsewhere.
The Kiwi soldiers were joined by the Canadian, US and British armies and the US Marine Corps to “enact a common conflict scenario of insurgents trying to overthrow a government”.
Insurgents’ trying to overthrow a government isn’t common in developed Western nations either. Funny where the West pokes its nose it usually is. Rather rich how the US assisted, trained and egged-on their fair share of insurgencies over time, Latin America comes to mind usually against many democratically elected progressive governments they deemed Marxist but the installed fascist regimes were just fine. Not the best mentors to have.
Anyway shouldn’t the NZDF be familiar with counter-insurgency from their time in Afghanistan? Since the deployment has ended there why the refresher course? I can’t imagine progressively minded folks taking up arms however they despise a government.
Maybe I’m cynical and I thank-you Gosman for declaring me foolish, I envy your optimism. But the world has a heap of unprecedented challenges ahead and ideally a rational collective mindset should prevail for the benefit of us all. Because there is peace today those deeply cynical of the helmsmen today may appear foolish but whatever territory we venture into overtime today’s optimists may be tomorrow’s fools.
Procrastinator – said with calm wisdom. Well put, and indeed, food for thought.
Britain attending is interesting as they currently have a huge surge of membership in far left and right groups, they wouldn’t wish to perform exercises at home due to fraternisation, wildly unpopular govt, remember Stephanie.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/suicide-bedroom-tax-victim-stephanie-1883600
Very unlikely anythings happening but, interesting.
Northern Ireland?
And why does it have to be a “Western” nation?
Decades of it – along with torture, extrajudicial executions and collaborating with pro-govt. terrorist groups to do some real dirty work.
New Zealanders have never experienced Fascism. They have no idea how to recognise early warning signs. Actually Procrastinator, you have unwittingly uncovered more than you realise, and I’m sorry, it’s not foolishness. Here in NZ, thanks to the controlled media (as elsewhere) we learn absolutely nothing of the real goings on overseas. In USA for example, people are becoming aware of encroaching tyranny, in the form of increasing military presence, abuses of power by the State against people, taking away of rights..and watch out ..it’s going to come here..People in NZ are clueless and naive..
Cassie, the 1951 waterfront strike regs are the closest we got. Your last sentence is only too true.
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Of course, the Herald hasn’t printed the list of National Party MPs who are paying consultants who have dark intentions as it too close to home.
Reading this I can’t help but succumb to gloating at the Nats: National turns on hard right advisor
I’ve written before that the demise of ACT is a two-edged sword.
On the one hand, we can be thankfully that such a rabid conservative, racist, rightwing Party is consigned to history.
But on the other hand, one has to ask – where will ACT supporters go? They certainly won’t just give up their political aspirations and sit at home watching “XYZ Factor” or “Survivor Eketahuna”.
The worry is that ACT supporters, being highly motivated and politically savy, will migrate and colonise an existing Party and work within to re-define that Party in their own image.
National is their closest political neighbour.
End result, voters may think they’re voting for a traditional centre-right National ticket – but in reality they’re getting something even far more extremist.
I’m not saying we should all go out and vote ACT at the next election (*suppresses urge to throw up*), but not keeping that Party on life-support may have unintended consequences.
[…] As broken on The Daily Blog last night, This is a truly fascinating insight into the dark machinations of the National Party. As TDB has been pointing out for sometime, Collins Stormtroopers have been waging a low level internal guerrilla war within the party to manufacture a hard right Government. […]
My friends use to laugh about me buying useless Nazi memorabilia. Ha haa, looks like the jokes on them.
A bit of a tangent but…
Frank
>> On the one hand, we can be thankfully that such a rabid conservative, racist, rightwing Party is consigned to history. <> The worry is that ACT supporters, being highly motivated and politically savy, will migrate and colonise an existing Party and work within to re-define that Party in their own image. <<
I think the very reason for ACT's demise is that this happened a long time ago, when Don Brash became leader of National. All the Big Money ACT founders switched horses to backing him, then Key. The events described in the Hollow Men make this pretty clear, and it explains both the hard-right shift in economic policy, and the constant attempts to spin these policies as centrist. Classic "wolf in sheep's clothing".
Over at Homepaddock blog Ele has posted “On being a broad church”. Unusual because it’s not the typical cut and paste by this well connected Nat, it seems she’s trying to placate and soothe the more extreme in the party who don’t like this ‘centrist’ stuff.
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