I’m sorry, but I don’t remember hearing anything about Karzai’s CIA bribes when justifying NZs involvement in Afghanistan

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Did anyone remember John Key or Helen Clark mention anything about propping up a corrupt narco state with tens of millions in bribes via the CIA to Hamid Karzai?

Anyone?

Because I can’t remember hearing anything about ten of millions going to Karzai as part of why we were occupying Afghanistan. I heard something about ‘doing our bit’ and John Key brainfarted something about terrorism as our reason for being there, but I don’t recall a squeak about millions in bribes.

But that’s not surprising I suppose, as I didn’t hear much about our troops handing civilians over to known torture units either.

We are still not honest with the real reasons we involved ourselves in this wasteful war and the level of corruption we needed to put up with for the tiny amount of good generated lends no honour to those called upon to serve.

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  1. The Taliban interrupted the flow of dope for the CIA to peddle, and messed up a portion of the money-laundering through Wall St by nearly annihilating poppy growing. And the blocked the construction of a pipeline to deliver oil to the US via the Indian Ocean.

    Surely those two transgressions were enough to warrant bombing the shit out them and killing a few thousand women and children. And as part of the got-rich-by looting global bullying club, NZ had to play its part, didn’t it?

    The trouble with politicians is that they think we are all uninformed and stupid, when in fact only 90% of the populace is uninformed and stupid.

    • Afewknowthetruth – in the movie Farenheit 451, the people are shown to be in a permanent dazed state. They read nothing (books being banned) and only watch rubbish on TV…

      Hey, wait a minute…!

      • The Catholic Church burned books (and people) that challenged its hierarchical control of society, and persecuted Galileo for saying the Earth went round the Sun, with full approval of the state.

        In ‘1984’ practically everything the government says is a lie. Those who start to realise are quickly eliminated.

        NZ is currently governed by mendacious maniacs who are hell bent on transferring as much wealth as possible to ‘the 1%’ before the ship goes under, and in doing so are accelerating the environmental meltdown which is underway.

        And ‘nobody’ cares.

        Presumably, the latest moves by the government are designed to take NZ a little closer to an overtly Orwellian society.

        ‘Boiling frogs’ is easy when you know how.

  2. Whatever Karzai is, he most certainly isn’t Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda would be more likely to want to put his head on a platter than cooperate with Karzai.

  3. It all demonstrates how tenuous the state is. Much money is used to buy the support of warlords and politicians, once the funds have dried-up along with military support expect Taliban control again. It would be interesting to know how much of that money goes to fund Taliban military action.

    Evidence suggests the US has an affinity for assisting both sides of a war, war is business I suppose. With the CIA meddling in the affairs of many nations, deposing many democratically elected governments, arms and drug trafficking. Who is surprised by these revelations? Then there’s the push to supply Syrian rebels with arms, even though covertly they’ve received supplies. Saddam Hussein supported by the West then vilified, his downfall greatly contributed to expanding extremist movements. Same can be said of Gadaffi. Appears the US is interested in propping up an enemy to pave the way for a new war. A “cold war” with China? Neoliberal reforms worldwide helped strengthen China more than anything else. Render millions in the West unemployed for cheap labour and the industrialisation of China, now a potential foe.

    Pre-World War 2: USSR vehicle manufacturing (and subsequent war industry) existed as the result of the contributions of three US vehicle manufacturers, Ford the largest. Standard Oil provided synthetic oil patents to the German IG Farben chemical company which greatly assisted Germany waging war. Two of the largest German tank manufacturers during the war were Opel and Ford AG, subsidiaries of GM and Ford respectively. While Cologne was heavily bombed, the only damage sustained to the Ford factory was broken windows.

    While the Vietnam War waged on, the US greatly assisted the construction of the world’s largest heavy truck factory in the USSR. With other contributions previously, it was industry that supplied the NVA with trucks and war equipment from the USSR. Also during this time the US approved the sale of production equipment to the USSR necessary for the production of MIRV armed ICBMs and improved guidance systems.

    Assisting both sides in a conflict can’t do wonders for your economy, at least not always?

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