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		By: James+Brown		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219235</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James+Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 00:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219232&quot;&gt;Mohammed Khan&lt;/a&gt;.

Mohammed Tom&#039;s comment neither indicated any support for an occupation of Afghanistan or the promotion of any kind of child abuse - if you are going to comment let&#039;s try and make it even remotely relevant to what is being said . .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219232">Mohammed Khan</a>.</p>
<p>Mohammed Tom&#8217;s comment neither indicated any support for an occupation of Afghanistan or the promotion of any kind of child abuse &#8211; if you are going to comment let&#8217;s try and make it even remotely relevant to what is being said . .</p>
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		By: Bonnie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonnie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 23:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A moral obligation is incurred because the Western intervention has made the situation worse for females, while you are happy to credit the Soviets with having the &quot;freest&quot; conditions for Afgan women there are still many reasons for people to not want to live under Soviet control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A moral obligation is incurred because the Western intervention has made the situation worse for females, while you are happy to credit the Soviets with having the &#8220;freest&#8221; conditions for Afgan women there are still many reasons for people to not want to live under Soviet control.</p>
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		By: Mohammed Khan		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mohammed Khan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 21:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is Urban Moving Systems?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is Urban Moving Systems?</p>
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		By: Mohammed Khan		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219232</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mohammed Khan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 21:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219228&quot;&gt;Tom+Gardner&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, you mean more Afghan refugees who practice unislamic traditional Pashtun practices like bacha-bazi, the kind of practices the Taliban (rightly) ends people for? You people who support the illegal occupation of Afghanistan seem to be very focused on promoting child molestation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219228">Tom+Gardner</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, you mean more Afghan refugees who practice unislamic traditional Pashtun practices like bacha-bazi, the kind of practices the Taliban (rightly) ends people for? You people who support the illegal occupation of Afghanistan seem to be very focused on promoting child molestation.</p>
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		By: James+Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James+Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 19:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219228&quot;&gt;Tom+Gardner&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed - allowing Muslims into any country that is not already Islamic is cancerous, just look at the problems European countries such as France have been experiencing and will continue to experience.

Also I am at a loss as to why we in the West appear to fall all over ourselves to appease Muslims who decide voluntarily to move here - if I for instance decided to move to Iran and called in a noise complaint on the local Mosque&#039;s Call to Prayer do you honestly think they would give to two shits (which of course they shouldn&#039;t).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219228">Tom+Gardner</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed &#8211; allowing Muslims into any country that is not already Islamic is cancerous, just look at the problems European countries such as France have been experiencing and will continue to experience.</p>
<p>Also I am at a loss as to why we in the West appear to fall all over ourselves to appease Muslims who decide voluntarily to move here &#8211; if I for instance decided to move to Iran and called in a noise complaint on the local Mosque&#8217;s Call to Prayer do you honestly think they would give to two shits (which of course they shouldn&#8217;t).</p>
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		By: Liminal		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219230</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liminal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 08:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219229&quot;&gt;Ethan Woke&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for posting this about the ukie Crims/monsters - I was going to do this too. Risk of being called &#039;Ivan&#039; for illuminating unpleasant facts about our darling Ukrainian chums?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219229">Ethan Woke</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting this about the ukie Crims/monsters &#8211; I was going to do this too. Risk of being called &#8216;Ivan&#8217; for illuminating unpleasant facts about our darling Ukrainian chums?</p>
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		By: Ethan Woke		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219229</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ethan Woke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 01:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After twenty years of war crimes the West hasn&#039;t learnt a thing, just yesterday Ardern looked excited to be giving more weapons and our money to Ukraine to prolong their misery, instead of campaigning for peace. It&#039;s made even more ugly when you see the type of people Ardern and her handlers are supporting

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/07/30/zelensky-militants-convicted-child-rape-torture-military/

And America and their allies, this incredible beacon of women&#039;s rights, should give Afghanistan back the billions they stole before anyone starts passing the hat around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After twenty years of war crimes the West hasn&#8217;t learnt a thing, just yesterday Ardern looked excited to be giving more weapons and our money to Ukraine to prolong their misery, instead of campaigning for peace. It&#8217;s made even more ugly when you see the type of people Ardern and her handlers are supporting</p>
<p><a href="https://thegrayzone.com/2022/07/30/zelensky-militants-convicted-child-rape-torture-military/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thegrayzone.com/2022/07/30/zelensky-militants-convicted-child-rape-torture-military/</a></p>
<p>And America and their allies, this incredible beacon of women&#8217;s rights, should give Afghanistan back the billions they stole before anyone starts passing the hat around.</p>
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		By: Tom+Gardner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom+Gardner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 23:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We should only accept Afghani refugees who renounce islam, which you refer to as a religion, although might more accurately be described as a cult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should only accept Afghani refugees who renounce islam, which you refer to as a religion, although might more accurately be described as a cult.</p>
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		By: OnceWasTim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OnceWasTim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 23:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219221&quot;&gt;James+Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

The mistake the collective &#039;we&#039; (our team of 5 million with differing demographic &#039;crews&#039;) always seem to make is - just like all those Mearies -  that the &#039;we see the Taliban as some sort of collective group with a common agenda. They&#039;re factional, tribal, mysogenist, and all with their own various agendas. Perhaps the only thing they have in common is that they&#039;re primo bullshit artists.
We&#039;re now reaping what we&#039;ve sown - so be it, but don&#039;t expect me to be &#039;in tune&#039;, or &quot;on the same page&quot; with the response to all the crap we&#039;re about to face.  It&#039;s probably going to have to be pragmatic if &#039;we&#039; want to survive it. And it&#039;ll probably be, once again, that might is right.
We really do need better muppets in the political and administrative classes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219221">James+Brown</a>.</p>
<p>The mistake the collective &#8216;we&#8217; (our team of 5 million with differing demographic &#8216;crews&#8217;) always seem to make is &#8211; just like all those Mearies &#8211;  that the &#8216;we see the Taliban as some sort of collective group with a common agenda. They&#8217;re factional, tribal, mysogenist, and all with their own various agendas. Perhaps the only thing they have in common is that they&#8217;re primo bullshit artists.<br />
We&#8217;re now reaping what we&#8217;ve sown &#8211; so be it, but don&#8217;t expect me to be &#8216;in tune&#8217;, or &#8220;on the same page&#8221; with the response to all the crap we&#8217;re about to face.  It&#8217;s probably going to have to be pragmatic if &#8216;we&#8217; want to survive it. And it&#8217;ll probably be, once again, that might is right.<br />
We really do need better muppets in the political and administrative classes.</p>
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		By: Mohammed Khan		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/1-year-on-from-the-fall-of-western-occupation-in-afghanistan/#comment-219226</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mohammed Khan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 22:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On a purely national level- the political leaders responsible for the war crimes committed against the Afghan people need to be tried for the crimes they enabled- from Clark to Key to Jacinda. Also, the top military leadership, who knew very well exactly what they were doing.

I see no reason that regular soldiers and junior officers should be tried for crimes committed, unless they still defend NZ&#039;s role in Afghanistan as having had good intentions- indeed they should be supported and listened to, a lot more than is the case at present. 

Suicide has killed more than ten times as many Australian veterans of the war against the Afghan people as the Afghan freedom fighters did. I suspect those numbers are similar for the NZDF, although they&#039;re good at kicking out soldiers at risk of suicide to decrease the embarrassment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a purely national level- the political leaders responsible for the war crimes committed against the Afghan people need to be tried for the crimes they enabled- from Clark to Key to Jacinda. Also, the top military leadership, who knew very well exactly what they were doing.</p>
<p>I see no reason that regular soldiers and junior officers should be tried for crimes committed, unless they still defend NZ&#8217;s role in Afghanistan as having had good intentions- indeed they should be supported and listened to, a lot more than is the case at present. </p>
<p>Suicide has killed more than ten times as many Australian veterans of the war against the Afghan people as the Afghan freedom fighters did. I suspect those numbers are similar for the NZDF, although they&#8217;re good at kicking out soldiers at risk of suicide to decrease the embarrassment.</p>
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