GUEST BLOG: Andra Jenkin – Off with Their Heads – The Former Bureau of Investigation

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Trump is removing all opposition to his insane policies, let slip he might have bugged the Whitehouse and is threatening to disallow media access and issue written responses instead.

Trump is removing all opposition to his insane policies, let slip he might have bugged the Whitehouse and is threatening to disallow media access and issue written responses instead.

The first investigator Trump fired after becoming president was Preet Baharara, former Attorney General for South District New York, who tweeted “I did not resign. Moments ago I was fired.” Baharara was suspicious about the reason the latest Trump investigator, FBI Director James Comey was terminated.

This might be karma coming to bite Comey considering that he testified in a senate hearing that Hilary Clinton’s aide forwarded thousands of classified emails, when in reality it was two, both of which had already been scrutinised by the FBI. He then reopened the investigation just days before the election, a move that almost certainly tainted the public perception of Hillary Clinton at a crucial time for her campaign.

This got high approval ratings for Trump at the time, who claimed the move ‘brought back his reputation.” But now the FBI Director is investigating Trump, so the way he handled the Clinton emails is cause to have him fired.

I wonder if Comey’s kicking himself right now. Knowing that his actions helped skew perception of Clinton and get Trump elected. He didn’t even get fired to his face. The man who built an entire show around firing people wasn’t about to fire someone off camera. So the Director of the FBI found out he didn’t have a job by watching the news, just like everyone else. He laughed, thinking it was a great joke. Nope. It seems like if ever someone should have the inside scoop, its man whose job it is to know things before the American public…wait…not anymore…nevermind. Maybe he wasn’t brilliant at his job.

No one is buying that Comey was fired either for incompetence, or for the way he handled the non-issue of the Clinton emails. Trump fired James Comey because the FBI is investigating Trump over his ties with Russia and their influence over the American election. It’s not confusing, or complex, it’s a simple straightforward cover up only shocking because of how obvious and clumsy it is.

James Comey knows he was fired for investigating Trump. Kelly-Anne Conway knows James Comey was fired for investigating Trump despite saying it had “zero to do with that.”

Credibility is hard to come by for Conway, remember, she is the woman who made up a massacre. But it’s awkward for her flat our denial, because Trump just admitted he did indeed fire Comey over the Russia investigation.

Pence, who on Wednesday told Capitol Hill 7 times that Rosenstein (Deputy Attorney General), had recommended firing the FBI director, was embarrassed by his dictator, I mean leader soon after his lie. Because Trump was clear in his interview with NBC ‘Regardless of the recommendation” Trump contradicted Pence, “I was going to fire Comey.”

This speaks of a chaotic and disjointed Whitehouse administration, clueless about what the party line even is. A capricious leader, unaware of the ramifications of his actions or his words, who routinely let’s slip information denied by his staff, who then look like fools in the face of that denial. Trump has no remorse or perhaps even awareness of what he’s done, and certainly has no loyalty to those in the admin who lied for him, throwing them under the bus at the first opportunity.

But that isn’t the only spin Trump is putting on the decision to fire the man investigating him, stating in an interview with NBC’s Lester Holt, that he said to himself, “You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story, it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve won.”

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer won the award for what used to be called stating the obvious, is in reality simply the truth, but under Trump’s presidential rule is now considered political dissent and suicide. “If Rosenstein does not appoint an independent special prosecutor, every American will rightly suspect that the decision to fire Comey was part of a coverup.”

The list of those fired who knew anything of note about investigations into Trump’s Russian connections stands at 3. Preet Bharara, Sally Yates, former acting attorney General and now James Comey. Less than the amount of those on the Russian side who died suddenly of heart attacks, head injuries, assassination, or natural causes (at 55 years old), I know of 7 so far. But give it time. Once Trump gets the hang of being a despot he’ll get over the firing stage and start up the firing squad.

This is the phase of totalitarianism where the dictator weeds out opposition and finds out who is willing to follow him into the abyss. Who will tow the party hard line and who has a limit on what they will tolerate when it comes to corruption. The next phase looks a little harsher for Americans. This is the bit where you fall into line or fall over dead. This phase is notorious for its incarcerations, disappearances and deaths, deaths, deaths.

I really wish I was kidding. I really wish I was some crazy conspiracy theorist who was rabidly against all government or some such nonsense. Unfortunately I’m just going off the evidence of past behaviour, and determining what we can expect to see in the future. Death, its pretty much death.
But it’s not just me drawing parallels between Trump and tyrannical leaders. At the moment the name being bandied about is that of Nixon, and that’s no accident. Nixon’s former Whitehouse Counsel, John Dean has weighed in.

When a CNN reporter said to Mr. Dean “You’re saying that this is straight up a cover up by the Whitehouse.” He replied.

“Indeed it is,” he went on to say “When a Whitehouse leans on an FBI they’re in a cover up mode.” And he would know, he went to jail for his part in the Watergate scandal and cover up. But the parallels did not end there.

You read that tweet correctly. Trump implies that there might be ‘tapes’ of conversations to between himself and the former FBI Director. While I am dead keen on listening to that audio, it does highlight an interesting situation in the Whitehouse. That it’s bugged. By the President. That’s right. If there was ever a comparison to be made with Nixon, it’s now, because it appears the President has bugged the Director of the FBI. Please let that be illegal, and if not, why not?

As usual Sean Spicer is left flailing in the wake of a tweet that shocked the world. He wouldn’t deny that the President had tapped meetings in the Whitehouse, refusing to answer questions on the subject. Perhaps Spicer has finally grasped the depths to which Trump will sink, and that the best defence against his dark arts is to say nothing. He certainly can’t say anything good.

But Trump’s answer to questions he doesn’t like is to make them go away.

Because we all know how media shy Donald Trump is. This is dictator 101, disallow access by the media. Spicer was left to deal with reporters collectively very interested in this development. He couldn’t assure the media that they will have continued access to their president. Because as Trump told his pet Fox “We don’t have press conferences.” We? Spicer must be thinking. Trump replied to the reporter. “Or unless I have them every two weeks and I do ’em myself, we just don’t have them. I think it’s a good idea.”

 

Jacobs, B. (May 12, 2017) “Sean Spicer refused to deny that Trump is taping Whitehouse visitors.” Retrieved from www.theguardian.com May 13, 2017.
Jacobs, B., Borger, J., (May 12, 2017). “Trump threatens ex-FBI head Comey with possible ‘tapes’ of conversations.” Retrieved from www.theguardian.com May 13, 2017.
Lind, D. (May 11, 2017) “Read James Comey’s farewell letter to the FBI” Retrieved from www.vox.com May 13, 2017.
McBride, J. (May 10, 2017). “List of people so far Trump has fired as president.” Retrieved from www.heavy.com May 13, 2017.
Murphy, B. (May 9, 2017) “Appoint special prosecutor, top senator says, or Americans will suspect Trump ‘coverup’. Retrieved from www.mcclatchydc.com May 13, 2017.
Prokop, A. (May 13, 2017) “Trump has now admitted he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation.” Retrieved from www.vox.com May 13, 2017.

 

Andra Jenkin co-wrote Double-Edged Sword- The Simonne Butler Story, and contributed to New Zealand Anthology of Women’s Comics ‘Three Words.’

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46 Comments

  1. mikesh says:

    Trump claims he asked Comey three times if he was being investigated, and each time Comey said “no”. Would this not be a justification for the sacking. Given the airing that this ” Russian interference” matter is getting, it seems unthinkable that those answers could be true. I was watching Q&A this morning and was disappointed that this question was not put to the constitutional expert being interviewed.

  2. Historian pete says:

    For God’s sake! How many more blogs are we going to suffer writing about the Clinton/Trump scenario?It is plain that we are looking at two right wing political parties fighting over the turf like two mafia gangs.And connected to both factions is the Oligarchy of the one percent that actually runs the U.S. Empire, with the help of the privileged elite of The U.S. Deep State. Who cares about Trump and Comey? They are both just crooked corrupt gang members.And the Russia thing is just an attempt by one gang to cover up their nefarious activities when they are caught with their hands in the till.What is more important is the efforts of Gang Democratic Party to force Gang Republican to trash the planet to show they are true believers in the right of the exceptional country to have hegamony over all other countries, and to continue the U.S. predatory economic and military destructive behaviour!

    • Sam Sam says:

      Just a thought. People oftern mistake the cold war for a new one but its just america trying to keep alive the old cold war era kit and upgrade it, exponentially, in americas situation it accounts for half there growth, the other half is in prision and a little bit is put aside for good things but not used, like high end white collar crime, we could prosecute bankers but we cant because every one will suffer more instead of a little bit now? Just try and find money for kids to eat in schools, thats no joke, fainting fits from hunger is up in NZ and this is close to a period considered to be a rock star economy.

      Every time some one mentions any kind of orginised human existance straight away some is there saying we cant do that, tinfoil so on and so on.

      The US constitution was in my opinion written by some clever men (flawed men but we couldnt have done better) it was written in a time when POTUS were just poor farmers, so its the the US constitution is the AK47 of democracy. Its Machine printed, all weather, suitable for all terrian and skills. So the US constitution was written so any poor farmer can become president and not ens
      Ave to many people. Its an histroical record that PUTOS in the past were slave owners, in charge of dismantling slavery. The whole affair is breath taking, still is. But this is america uncut, raw and no WWE tricks.

      While we can say a lot about the American military being the most expensive and so on. Little is said about its growing fragility. Just take one M1A2 mainbattle tank in us in the US military, that thing needs the equivalent of 100 army trucks worth of fuel steel and ammo every year so on face value the US army looks all tacticool and shit but there constant maintanance freezes, you get your bolk spar parts orders but an army as sophisticated as the US just needs more specialty gear. The moab is one example, expensive and it also dosnt have a pupose built delevery system so they gerry rigged a pallet so they can push it out a cargo plan which is totally unsuitable for any kind of combate roles other than looking tacticool and shit.

    • garibaldi says:

      You are on to it Historian Pete , along with the fact that the Yankee/Confederate divide is alive and kicking, and throw in the crazy dogmatic style of American Christianity, and take the insane militarism with ‘American Exceptualism’ thrown in.
      There we have it – one totally fucked up Country.

    • “For God’s sake! How many more blogs are we going to suffer writing about the Clinton/Trump scenario?”

      Possibly because this is a political blog, Pete?

      Your user-name implies an interest in history. Are you prepared to ignore the lessons of history, and suffer the consequences of repeated past mistakes?

      Or is the reality of an increasingly erratic US government, led by a self-serving narcissist, beginning to impact of your support for Trump?

      Instead of criticising the critics who dare challenge power, you might do better to keep an eye on events in the US. Whether we like it or not, whatever transpires in Washington eventually has global consequences.

      The illegal US invasion of Iraq should have demonstrated this to you by now.

      • Historian pete says:

        Frank: “Or is the reality of an increasingly erratic U.S.Govt.,led by a self-serving narcissist beginning to impact of your support
        for Trump?”.
        In the last month on this blogsite I have called Trump “Herr Trump ” ,I have called him an unintelligent moron,and a gang leader.I have described the country of what he is the Potus as the U.S. Empire State Terrorist Fourth Reich.I have described Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the U.S. as an axis of evil.I have compared Nazi Germany and the U.S .and come to the conclusion that there is a remarkable similarity.And after all this you feel I am a supporter of Trump ?
        Does this mean that the possibilty of my being invited to a White House dinner is not out of the question?

  3. PB says:

    People reading the firing as incipient “totalitarianism” are opening the book half way through.

    You have a power struggle between an established unelected elite and the people’s relatively powerless executive representative. Of course Trump has to fire people, this is the first thing he’s done to fight back against deep state’s assault, which has been ongoing since he got elected.

    As Pete said, they’re all monsters in muck, at least they’re wasting energy on each other and Trump’s stopped firing missiles to impress the media, for the moment.

    • It does not serve anyone if the US is de-stabilised through Trump’s incompetance or corrupt actions. (And there is possible corruption involved with secret dealings with a Russian bank to finance his golf courses.)

      Just as it does not serve anyone’s benefit if Russia or China is de-stabilised.

      It is usually working class people who suffer as a result.

      I am no fan of the Washington hegemony and it’s illegal interference in other countries affairs. I’m also no fan of a despot exploiting resistance to the Washington Concensus for his own aggrandisement.

      History is replete with demagogues exploiting people’s anger for their own power and wealth.

      Trump is no different. The sacking of Comey runs deeper than the meme of fighting the b”deep state”.

      Trump’s appointment of billionaires and neo-cons should be a pointer that there is a revolution going on in Washington at this very moment; a right-wing, neo-fascist revolution.

      As I have pointed out before, Amerika does not do left-wing revolutions.

      • mikesh says:

        This neo-fascist revolution seems to have pre- dated Trump, whose election seems to have thrown a spanner in the works. A!so, these “revolutionaries” seem to want a confrontation with Russia, which Trump, to his credit, seems to want to avoid. Comey is probably not sympathetic to this revolution, which was probably the reason for his sacking. (It should be noted the sacking was not Trump’ s doing, but rather the Attorney General’s. Trump merely acted on the latter’s advice.)

        The neo- fascists are now trying to elevate someone more sympathetic to their “cause” into the FBI director’s job.

        • (It should be noted the sacking was not Trump’ s doing, but rather the Attorney General’s. Trump merely acted on the latter’s advice.)

          Trump has refuted that: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/11/trump-i-was-going-to-fire-comey-regardless-of-recommendation-that-was-given-to-me.html

          • mikesh says:

            Well, he would say that, wouldn’t he.

            • Evidently there has been another development, Mike;

              Team Trump said on Tuesday that Comey’s ouster was the Justice Department’s decision, only to say the opposite on Wednesday. Team Trump said on Tuesday that the memo from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein forced the president’s hand, only to acknowledge on Wednesday that Trump told Rosenstein to write the memo.

              ref: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-white-houses-official-line-comeys-firing-unravels

              And;

              ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wfclLEMGrc

              Curiouser and curiouser.

              • mikesh says:

                Pretty weird, I agree. Why would Trump want to get rid of Comey who as far as we can see helped him win the election, when it would only give rise to accusations that he was trying close down an investigation, particularly when that investigation would, in any case, just continue under someone else.

                • Good question, Mike.

                  I think it’s high time for a Special Investigator to be set in place. If there is corruption involved, the people have a right to know.

                  The downside to Trump being impeached though is Mike Pence, another neo-con.

              • mikesh says:

                According to the extract you quote it was Team Trump that said these things, not Trump himself.

        • D'Esterre says:

          Mikesh: “This neo-fascist revolution seems to have pre- dated Trump, whose election seems to have thrown a spanner in the works. A!so, these “revolutionaries” seem to want a confrontation with Russia, which Trump, to his credit, seems to want to avoid.”

          Yup. Trump’s stated desire for detente with Russia looks to have thrown the neocons into a tizzwazz. Anything to avoid making peace, not war. All the anti-Trump protests serve the neocons’ purpose very well.

          • Anything to avoid making peace, not war.

            Anything to avoid making peace, not war.

            So he launches missiles against Syria; bombs Afghanistan, boosts military spending whilst cutting medicare and medicaid, and threatens North Korea?! That’s a pretty warped vision of “making peace”.

            All the anti-Trump protests serve the neocons’ purpose very well.

            Yes, maybe we should cheer all the billionaires, ex-Goldman Sachs, military hawks, and the odd White Nationalist, etc, that Trump has appointed to his Cabinet?

            Screw that.

            • mikesh says:

              Trump warned the Russians what he was going to do before firing Tomohawke missiles at the Syrian airport, so that they could take themselves off to safety before it happened. In Afghanistan he wasn’t actually bombing Russians. This is no excuse of course but it does lend credence to his stated aim of reaching detente with Russia.

              • D'Esterre says:

                Mikesh: “it does lend credence to his stated aim of reaching detente with Russia.”

                Yes, it’s a bit of a strange way of going about things, though. Somebody in this household agrees with you; their view is that he’s trying to pursue detente, while at the same time throwing a bone or two to the neocons, to keep them quiet. Time will tell if it’s an effective strategy.

                • Samwise says:

                  Lol! You are both apologists for a one per center , a demagogue who is showing his gross incompetence. Bury head in the sand as much as you like, trump is no friend of the worker or for world peace. Trump’s only friend is his bank account

  4. More insight into the Trump White House and the “House of Cards” machinations under way; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y28vwZSGock

    Note another reference to a Trump family member’s connections to a Russian Bank.

    • D'Esterre says:

      “Note another reference to a Trump family member’s connections to a Russian Bank.”

      This is irrelevant. His or his family members’ contacts with Russian banks are of no more moment than their contact with a French or British bank.

      The Russian thing is a furphy. It’s the neocons’ stalking horse in their attempts to impeach Trump. See it for what it is: a distraction. A fabrication, as was the weapons of mass destruction dossier.

      Remember how many lives that fabrication cost; nobody should want to go down that road again.

      • This is irrelevant. His or his family members’ contacts with Russian banks are of no more moment than their contact with a French or British bank.

        Of course it is relevant! Especially if;

        (a) he has not disclosed it,

        (b) he is benefitting from a conflict of interest,

        (c) there is alleged corruption

        Are you so wedded to the capitalist system that corruption no longer troubles you? If that’s the case, you’re in a very small minority.

        Up until recently, the One Percenters who have accumulated vast amounts of wealth throughout the US (and throughout the world), ruled that country through their puppets in the Republican Party.

        But that was not enough for the One Percenters. They have side-stepped their political servants and taken over the political system directly, installing one of their own.

        They had to fool a sizeable chunk of the US population, but that wasn’t very difficult. A combination of Idiot TV and despair from lost jobs created an army of angry people wanting to “stick it to Washington”.

        So the Billionaire’s Club have seized control.

        It’s not the neo-cons attacking Trump – the neo-cons are supporting him!! (With Breitbart “News” leading the charge!) It is the US-version of the Ukrainian Right in control in the White House.

        You are aligning yourself with some very dubious people, D’Esterre.

      • Samwise says:

        You’re shittin’ us d’estrrre! Key was held to account for his dodgy dealings and now you’re trying to excuse corruption from the Donald? Get real! Trump’s corruption is most certainly relevant. Get your head out of the sand!!

  5. D'Esterre says:

    PB: “… opening the book half way through.”

    Ha! Very neat – and apt – turn of phrase there.

    “You have a power struggle between an established unelected elite and the people’s relatively powerless executive representative. Of course Trump has to fire people, this is the first thing he’s done to fight back against deep state’s assault, which has been ongoing since he got elected.”

    You’re dead right. In fact, his entire time in office has been characterised by missteps and poor policy drafting and implementation; in my view, he’s got an Iago somewhere among his advisors. And early on, he let critique under his skin. Think he’s getting better at that, but he must find that Iago and off him or her.

    Thing is, he’s on the back foot. The neocons have long experience in politics, he has none. But he’s been successful in business: does he lack the nous to realise that he needs to draw on his business expertise for strategies to handle the opposition? He must be a lot braver than he’s been to date. Possibly he has learned from the Syrian strike that going back on his platform won’t make life easier.

    I predict the FBI Russia probe will be strung out so as to last his entire first term. There’ll be no evidence produced, precisely because there isn’t any, but the probe will be used to white-ant his administration.

    The neocons’ objective is to impeach him. It’s entirely likely that an alternative scenario, in which evidence is fabricated, has been planned. The neocons have done that before, of course, so they’ll see it as “all’s fair in the pursuit of endless war”.

    • D’Esterre,

      Thing is, he’s on the back foot. The neocons have long experience in politics, he has none.

      You make it sound like Trump is surrounded by neo-cons against his will? Fact is, he is surrounded by his own appointees and his own Republican Party (the home of neo-cons) is standing behind him.

      Trump is not apart from the neo-cons, he has immersed himself in them, along with billionaires, ex-Goldman Sachs, ex-corporate CEOs, family members (nepotism much?), military officials, etc. These are the people Trump has willingly appointed and surrounded himself with.

      He certainly hasn’t appointed anyone of the likes of Robert Reich, who would offer a p.o.v. counter to the Republican/corporate/neo-con message.

      Trying to paint him as some kind of “victim” simply doesn’t wash. He appointed his Cabinet and officials, no one else.

      • mikesh says:

        He probably had no idea who to appoint and needed good advice. Who do you suggest he should have turned to for that advice? The Pope?

        • D'Esterre says:

          Mikesh: “He probably had no idea who to appoint and needed good advice. Who do you suggest he should have turned to for that advice? The Pope?”

          Precisely. Coming from outside the political world as he has, he’d have no group of political advisors to whom to turn. The neocons aren’t exclusively – or even necessarily – rich folks. It’s worth looking back at who was providing advice to successive presidencies over the years since WW2, more or less. American exceptionalism goes all the way back to that time at least. That’s the foundation upon which the neocons have built their project. I suspect that the newly-elected Trump didn’t know a neocon from a hole in the wall.

          • It is unclear why excuses continue to be made to defend Trump. What, precisely, merits that defense considering his actions thus far?

            Any suggestion that he is somehow “anti-establishment” is ludicrous and not supported by facts.

            Trump has appointed Wall Street financiers and other corporate-types to his Cabinet.

            He has cut taxes (or is planning to) for the top 1% of America’s wealthiest.

            He has implemented a wide range of attacks on environmental protection.

            Ref: http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/05/09/trumpwatch-whats-a-few-more-nails-in-the-planets-coffin/

            He is boosting military spending by US$56 billion – while cutting funding to medicare and medicaid.

            He has attacked Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, and has threatened North Korea.

            And now his financial ties to Russian banks is being investigated:

            WASHINGTON—A Treasury Department unit that specializes in combating money-laundering will share financial records with an expanding Senate probe into possible ties between Russia and President Donald Trump and his associates, according to people familiar with the matter.

            ref: https://www.wsj.com/articles/financial-crimes-monitor-to-share-records-in-trump-russia-probe-1494625140

            Only the alt.right and Washington neo-cons could in any way approve.

            Continuing to put faith in Trump as an “anti-establishment” anti-hero is misguided and wilfully ignoring some very unpleasant and disturbing facts.

            We did not tolerate this from Key (another populist figure who was presented as some kind of “non-politician”), so why are some committed to tolerating it from another bloated capitalist with narcissistic tendencies?

            The answer lies in how Key was able to maintain his popularity with his power-base.

        • MikeSH; if Trump had no idea who to appoint, he should never have stood for Presidency.

          In February last year, Trump was asked if he would appoint all Republicans to his Cabinet. His response was;

          “No, not necessarily. I want the best people. Honestly, I want the greatest negotiators. We can’t lose $505 billion next year with China.”

          […]

          … I want the most talented people.”

          ref: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/19/donald-trump-4/

          Well, his “most talented” are ex-Wall Street from Goldman Sachs, ex CEOS, and other assorted rich-listers.

          You know; the kind of parasites who were directly responsible for the GFC;

          Goldman Sachs Group Inc (GS.N) has agreed to pay $5.06 billion to settle claims that it misled mortgage bond investors during the financial crisis, the U.S. Department of Justice said on Monday.

          The settlement, which Goldman disclosed in January, stems from the firm’s conduct in packaging, securitization, marketing and sale of residential mortgage-backed securities between 2005 and 2007, the Justice Department said.

          Investors suffered billions of dollars in losses from the securities bought during the period, the department said.

          ref: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-goldman-sachs-mbs-settlement-idUSKCN0X81TI

          These are the “talented people” Trump appointed to his Cabinet. The ones who nearly wrecked the Global economy; destroyed millions of jobs; and caused untold suffering.

          Trump didn’t “drain the swamp” – he re-populated it with his own Captains of Capitalism.

          Oh, and in the end, Trump even lied about not appointing 100% Republicans. They’re all Republicans or neo-cons.

  6. D'Esterre says:

    Mikesh: “Why would Trump want to get rid of Comey who as far as we can see helped him win the election, when it would only give rise to accusations that he was trying close down an investigation, particularly when that investigation would, in any case, just continue under someone else.”

    Exactly. My theory is that there’s an Iago – or maybe more than one – among his advisors. It’s the most plausible explanation. He needs to find and rootle out that person pronto, before any more damage is done.

    • Really, D’Esterre?! Are you so ‘wedded’ to Trump that you are willing to blame others for his failings? To come up with all kinds of implausible “theories” why he should not be held to account?

      Are you seriously suggesting that Trump is not responsible for his actions?

      Because if you’re correct, there is a lunatic in the White House with his hand uncomfortably close to the nuclear launch-codes.

  7. D'Esterre says:

    People need to remember that it’s not our business whom the US voters elect to be their president. As to his domestic policies, for all that we disapprove of their trajectory, we don’t get a say in that.

    It is Trump’s foreign policy which is of most moment to the rest of us, and which we can legitimately criticise. His policy of detente with Russia was the most optimistic development in the US political world for many years. Likewise his view that NATO has outlived its usefulness: he was dead right about that! The shame of it is that he’s been talked by the neocons – and in the case of NATO, self-serving politicians and sundry apparatchiks – out of that stance.

    The US needs to take a much more Westphalian approach in respect of other polities’ domestic affairs. Had it done so since WW2, countless lives would have been saved. Trouble is, we’re all so acculturated to US exceptionalism and neoliberal interventionism, that we see it as unexceptionable. But it’s not: it’s very far from being that. It’s long past time that we pressured our own governments not to participate in those US interventionist campaigns. If we do not do that, we remain complicit in them.

    And please, forget about the Russia thing. It’s a furphy. And it’s wildly implausible for similar reasons that Mikesh has pointed to with regard to Trump’s sacking of Comey: setting aside the fact that zip evidence has been produced – and you can bet that were there any, we’d have heard about it by now – Russia had nothing at all to gain from any intervention, but a hell of a lot to lose. Russian intel -and Putin in particular – are far too smart to do anything so stupid.

  8. People need to remember that it’s not our business whom the US voters elect to be their president. As to his domestic policies, for all that we disapprove of their trajectory, we don’t get a say in that.

    Absolute rubbish!!

    Are you serious??

    Only a naive fool would suggest that the America’s internal politics has no affect on the rest of the world.

    Where on Earth do you live – in a bunker on the far side of the Moon?!

    If Trump’s supposed “detente” with Russia is based purely on alleged financial deals with Putin and his cronies – then that is no detente.

    That is self-interest geared for self-enrichment based on Russian and American Oligarch’s meeting behind closed doors.

    That is not “peace” by any definition. That is a few powerful men carving up this planet for their own respective dynastic ambitions.

    You would hand over power to these oligarch’s and plutocrats for some bizarre illusion of “peace”?!

    You’re doing your best to defend and paint Trump as some kind of anti-political “anti-hero”, and failing miserably.

    Events transpiring in the US simply cannot be reconciled with your fantasies, D’Esterre.

    • D'Esterre says:

      Frank: “Only a naive fool would suggest that the America’s internal politics has no affect on the rest of the world.”

      You are comprehensively missing the point I made. We have no say in any of that, and nor should we. It is the business of Americans themselves. I daresay that they’d take as dim a view of attempts to interfere in their internal politics as would we in NZ. Indeed, isn’t that the point of the frou-frou over unfounded and implausible claims of Russian meddling in the election? What do you want to do about the US: get up a coalition of the willing, to ride in and bring about regime change? Good luck with that.

      Do not interpret comments such as mine as being support for Trump. It’s not: as one member of this household acerbically observed, Trump really is the sum of the last six people he’s talked to! And I agree.

      However, I and others are interested in political analysis. With regard to Trump’s domestic policies, it is certainly in the interest of Americans – and to some extent the rest of us – that he’s able to run his administration efficiently. He’s a businessman with no experience of politics, thrust into the political circus of Washington. Of course he’ll make mistakes; but I stand by my view that he’s got an Iago (or more) among his advisors. He needs to find that person(s)and rootle them out pronto.

      We also have an interest in Trump being able to pursue his policy of detente with Russia, and hope that he can extend that to relations with other polities: Iran, North Korea and Syria, for example. Success in this area would greatly benefit the poor sods who live – and don’t want to die – in those countries. Along with the rest of us, of course. I have offspring of conscriptable age, therefore a vested interest in Trump being able successfully to prosecute a policy of detente. And all of us in this situation ought to be hoping for peace.

      It remains the case that the Dems suffered a humiliating defeat, and they’ve cast about for someone to blame. Rather than perpetuating furphies, Clinton and her party ought to accept the blame. And we’d better all thank our lucky stars that she was too incompetent to figure out which votes she needed to win the presidency. She’s a neocon war hawk. Had she been elected, the US – not to mention the rest of us -would by now very likely have been dragged down the hellhole of another war.

      • I was wondering when Trump’s supporters here would invoke Clinton’s name as their bogeywoman to justify Trump.

        If Trump’s actions can’t stand on their own merit, or lack of, then that in itself raises questions of his competance.

      • Priss says:

        ” We have no say in any of that, and nor should we. It is the business of Americans themselves.”

        Sooooo, why are yiou here commenting on American issues, Desterre??

        And why are you so taken with a bloated parasite who exploits workers for his own personal enrichment??

        “People need to remember that it’s not our business whom the US voters elect to be their president. As to his domestic policies, for all that we disapprove of their trajectory, we don’t get a say in that.”

        OH YES WE DO!!!!!

        When US politics impacts on our lives, we VERY MUCH GET A SAY IN WHAT THEY GET UP TO!!!!!

        You may be enamoured with Trump, but the rest of us see him as a narcissistic ignoramus who, along with a murderous oligarch (Putin) are enriching themselves at our expense.

        If world peace is to be built upon the efforts of a narcissistic ignoramus and a homocidal oligarch, then that’s not the kind of world I want for my kids.

        You can have Trump. I’ll root for anyone who gets rid of him, Putin, and all the other plutocrats who run our world.

  9. Helena says:

    An unfortunate Heading given that there are over 800 FEMA camps in America with 30,000 guillotines brought in under the Obama admin.

  10. D'Esterre says:

    Oh, and in light of the interest in whom Trump is likely to appoint as next head of the FBI, this was sent to me in the last couple of days. Hilarious! http://imgur.com/mTUanX7