The Daily Blog Open Mic – Sunday 16th April 2017

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  1. Red Buzzard says:

    For all those mainstream media, Democratic Party supporting, so-called liberal Lefties, who supported Hillary Clinton in the overthrowing of Gaddafi and the destruction of Libya….and actually who are the racists really ( surely not the Liberal lefties?)

    ‘The Last Country We “Liberated” from an “Evil” Dictator Is Now Openly Trading Slaves’

    http://theantimedia.org/liberated-libya-trading-slaves/

    ‘Nelson Mandela’s Friendship with Gaddafi Irritated the West’

    https://www.africanexponent.com/post/8136-nelson-mandelas-friendship-with-gaddafi-that-irritated-the-west

    …and while

    The USA McCarthyist mainstream media now loves Trump…who/what caused Trump to do a big u-turn?…and betray his millions of voters?

    …in the second half of the Keiser Report is a rather understated but slyly hilarious interview with Tyson Slocum (Director of Public Citizen’s Energy Program)

    https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/384747-episode-max-keiser-1057/

    “In this episode of the Keiser Report Max and Stacy discuss #KushnerAtWar and whether or not President Trump has that 1000 yard stare now that MSNBC hails him as the dear leader finally willing to kill?

    In the second half Max continues his previous interview with Tyson Slocum, Director of Public Citizen’s Energy Program, about the latest in geopolitics from Rex Tillerson’s State Department and Trump’s chaotic White House.”

  2. CLEANGREEN says:

    SEE OUR PLANET BURNING UP ON VIDEO WITH POISONOUS GASSES SWURLING AROUND THE PLANET AS WE STUGGLE TO SURVIVE.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/148/

    Video: Following atmospheric carbon dioxide

    Carbon dioxide plays a significant role in trapping heat in Earth’s atmosphere. The gas is released from human activities like burning fossil fuels, and the concentration of carbon dioxide moves and changes through the seasons.

    Using observations from NASA’s Orbiting Carbon Observatory (OCO-2) satellite, scientists developed a model of the behavior of carbon in the atmosphere from September 1, 2014 to August 31, 2015.

    Scientists can use models like this one to better understand and predict where concentrations of carbon dioxide could be especially high or low, based on activity on the ground.

    The height of Earth’s atmosphere and topography have been vertically exaggerated and appear approximately 40 times higher than normal to show the complexity of the atmospheric flow.

    Music credit: Life Cycles by Theo Golding [PRS]

    Credit
    NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center

  3. Red Buzzard says:

    Easter thoughts;

    ‘John Pilger on nuclear war, Russia & The Last Poets (E467)’

    https://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/384840-nuclear-war-russia-poets/

    “We speak to legendary journalist John Pilger, former UK ambassador to Russia Sir Tony Brenton, plus revolutionary music from The Last Poets.”

  4. John W says:

    THE GAME CHANGER

    Worth reading in detail if you want a basis for understanding what is the underlying shape of things happening rather than thrash around immersed in dealing with various observations worthy of concern.

    This is much bigger than politics or the obscene power the wealth collectors use to perpetrate mahem for short term profit.

    http://collections.dartmouth.edu/teitexts/meadows/diplomatic/meadows_ltg-diplomatic.html#fig-40

    If you think this is out of date, well some things don’t seem to change much such as the finite nature of this planet and the will-fullness of mankind to overshoot, somewhat oblivious to the consequences.

    Reviewed and updated many times with little change and notably by the CSIRO in 2010 the results of which point to the solid validity of the original study linked above.

    But Abbott and Ozzie Govt have expunged all record of the last CSIRO review and sacked 118 scientists, to keep things quiet.
    All that important publicly owned information has been hidden away and most likely destroyed.

    Separately Melbourne University took up another review /analysis in 2014 and published it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/02/limits-to-growth-was-right-new-research-shows-were-nearing-collapse

    Get your head around the principle that most things are connected when looking at futures and our present path of human activity has few options apart from an attempt to mitigate the consequences of continuing the way we have for 2 centuries.
    There may be a future for a small human population if we start on a path of population reduction, living very simply and cease consuming Non Renewable Natural Resources.

    The key is to not consume energy as the side effects of energy harvesting have produced a nightmare we cannot deal with. There is no way we can turn and certainly technology generally has been a massive problem not a solution.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz9wjJjmkmc

    http://energyskeptic.com/2015/limits-to-growth-articles/

    http://www.context.org/iclib/ic36/gilman1/

    https://www.scribd.com/document/52861965/BEYOND-THE-LIMITS-TO-GROWTH-Richard-Heinberg

    https://www.volkswagenstiftung.de/en/events/event-reports/berichte/documentation-limits-to-growth/white-paper-of-the-2012-winter-school-on-limits-to-growth-revisited.html

    And many other sites posted by concerned scientific and allied bodies.

    There are also business interests that seem to feel threatened and post shallow criticism and lies and out LTG. Just what some want to hear.

    The Myths

    https://makewealthhistory.org/2010/11/10/the-limits-to-growth-common-misconceptions/

    http://www.growthbiasbusted.org/more-about-limits-to-growth/

    Your own copy to spend time with.

    http://donellameadows.org/the-limits-to-growth-now-available-to-read-online/

    http://donellameadows.org/wp-content/userfiles/Limits-to-Growth-digital-scan-version.pdf

    • Red Buzzard says:

      wow thanx for that….I am gong to take a copy of that and wade my way through the refs as I get the time

      pity there does not seem to be an easy way of accessing back ‘Open Mics’

      • CLEANGREEN says:

        https://www.rt.com/shows/documentary/384152-poisined-secrets-chemical-industry/

        Yes JOHN W.

        AND the Club of Rome is apparently heavily invested in two of the most toxic industries today that actually are indiscriminately killing millions around the globe daily with their toxic poisonous “chemical weapons” as back or worse than Assad allegedly did by “innocently” or not spreading around our environment simply as bi-products of their activities without ant charges of “war crimes”.

        So their de-population of the globe is going ahead quietly as we speak with the help of the likes of the ‘Club of Rome.’

        Russia did not condone this!!!

        The western world did this to us all in secrecy.

        • Red Buzzard says:

          wow …scary…CLEANGREEN!….will read JOHN W recommendations…when I get the time( if ever)…with my critical thinking cap on !

      • CLEANGREEN says:

        https://www.rt.com/shows/documentary/384152-poisined-secrets-chemical-industry/

        Yes JOHN W.

        AND the Club of Rome is apparently heavily invested in two of the most toxic industries today that actually are indiscriminately killing millions around the globe daily with their toxic poisonous “chemical weapons” as back or worse than Assad allegedly did by “innocently” or not spreading around our environment simply as bi-products of their activities without ant charges of “war crimes”.

        So their de-population of the globe is going ahead quietly as we speak with the help of the likes of the ‘Club of Rome.’

        Russia did not condone this!!!

        The western world did this to us all in secrecy.

        • John W says:

          The science is completely separate to The Club of Rome.

          Conspiracies attributed to dirty dealings by COR associations have little to do with what is happening in the bigger picture, but can and do provide a distraction to looking at the hard data on population overshoot and consequences.

          The human population will peak very soon and then decline with or without the COR or elite or World govt input.

          The danger to getting a handle on the bigger picture is that there are many websites dealing in manufactured quasi arguments that border on paranoia and are full of holes in their logic. But appealing to some.

          Limits to Growth is not tainted in any way by amateur rationale, particularly when the arguments linking LTG to accusations about COR dealings.

          The COR may be the dirtiest pack of corrupt criminal thieves but that does not affect the LTG findings which are based on hard evidence and years of follow up analysis from independent scientific bodies such as CSIRO, various universities and environmental agencies.

          But you will find accusations abound from various anti establishment websites run by people who have an axe to grind and not the logic nor understanding to enter the discussion on basis of qualified science based analysis in this complex field.

          The Club of Rome is a distraction for some from the actual processes that are taking place now which will lead to depopulation as a consequence of us being on peak food, rising pollution, shrinking Non Renewable Natural Resources and the rising cost of extraction, deforestation, exhaustion of soils through large scale commercial cropping with fertilizers, exhaustion of artesian ground water drawn for cropping on a large scale, contamination with ecocides, acidification of the ocean and shrinking fish stocks.

          The plant is finite and I do not know of a conspiracy theory to dispute that but no doubt there is one.

          Being able to sort fact from fiction can be difficult so careful examination in depth is often needed to differentiate. Not all are able to do that and certainly looking for information to support an argument is often not helpful. Hard evidence can also be difficult to analyse when you have the complexities of a total system to track.

          I suggest leaving the Club Of Rome out of it, but looking at the evidence structured by experienced scientists within their field of expertise may be a start.

          Good luck.

          The world is finite.