Anyone claiming to know what is happening in Syria is pretending

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For the love of all that is holy, Pentagon backed factions in Syria are currently fighting CIA back factions in Syria…

There is a propaganda war raging online between people who claim Assad gassed his own people in Syria and those who argue that America gassed them to justify an escalation in Syria.

Here’s what I think.

1: Assad is a butcher and murderer who has tortured to death tens of thousands of his own people, and if he wasn’t responsible for this gas attack he sure as hell is responsible for many other actions that amount to war crimes.

2: America has every capability and manipulative intent to have set Assad up. They have a track record of deception, lies and false flag operations to justify military intervention in the past and I’m sure under Trump that can only multiply.

3: Almost every other player in this regional war is actively attempting to manipulate America into escalation.

Did Assad order the gas strikes? I don’t know.

Did America set him up? I don’t know.

Did a third player like Saudi Arabia or Israel concoct the attack to trick America into escalation? I don’t know.

When there are so many vipers involved in a regional war like Syria, I think anyone claiming to know for sure what is going on is either incredibly clever or garden variety dumb.

For the love of all that is holy, Pentagon backed factions in Syria are currently fighting CIA back factions in Syria…

In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA

Syrian militias armed by different parts of the U.S. war machine have begun to fight each other on the plains between the besieged city of Aleppo and the Turkish border, highlighting how little control U.S. intelligence officers and military planners have over the groups they have financed and trained in the bitter five-year-old civil war.

The fighting has intensified over the last two months, as CIA-armed units and Pentagon-armed ones have repeatedly shot at each other while maneuvering through contested territory on the northern outskirts of Aleppo, U.S. officials and rebel leaders have confirmed.

…if that isn’t a clear case of no one, not even those actively engaged, having a clue as to what the hell is actually going on in Syria, I don’t know what will convince you.

What I can say for sure is that everyone is attempting to manipulate Trump’s inexperience.

Taking hard and fast sides in a conflict as twisted and mutilated as Syria seems like a mistake. My thoughts are with the people, the poor bloody Syrian people who have been tortured beyond insanity by this cruel war.

Siding with those who are meting out the violence isn’t a solution in my mind.

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15 Comments

  1. CLEANGREEN says:

    Yep the third point is about right here.

    “Almost every other player in this regional war is actively attempting to manipulate America into escalation.”

    The Global elite wanted the monkey off their backs after causing the financial crash then the Panama papers, so now this “diversion” is set-up to take the heat off them, since they were the driving force that invaded the middle east and caused the million’s to flee the region and invade Europe and now USA and other countries around the world.

    The world is in a mess with every politician spouting their own “fake news story” so we are in the limelight of a false narrative that we cannot ever get to the bottom of the truth now.

    Martyn you are as close to the truth as anyone could be now.

    The Russians today have stated they have found the evidence that rebels are planning another attack using gas around Damascus in Syria, that SUGGESTS THESE REBELS ARE EITHER ISIS OR UNDER EITHER THE US OR SYRIAN GOVERNMENT CONTROL

    WE ARE IN SO CALLED INTERESTING TIMES.

  2. Dave Brown says:

    The Syrians locked into their besieged cities know who is killing whom.
    The US and Russian imperialists and their proxies are determined to kill the Syrian Revolution off by any means necessary.
    The infighting among the tiny CIA backed gangs and the larger Pentagon backed Kurdish led SDF are a sideshow that reflects the failed tactics of US agencies to hijack the Syrian Revolution.
    Both split from the defence of Aleppo and went whoring off to grab their piece of territory from ISIS.
    The real opposition stuck to defending the occupied towns and cities from Assad, US and Russian bombs and continue to do so.
    This proves the opposite to the alt left conspiracy theory that the CIA runs the opposition so there can no genuine revolution in Syria.
    Such theories are orientalist Islamophobia dressed up as ‘democracy’ and ‘humanitarian’ concern.
    If there was no genuine revolution Assad plus his foreign mercenaries would have won years ago, and that is why in desperation he used poison gas again.
    Trump is angling Russia to jointly put a straightjacked on Assad, and do a deal to destroy the revolution in the guise of “terrorism” to re- partition Syria.
    The only answer to the massive destruction of imperialism and its client dictators is international support for the armed Syrian Revolution and the wider Arab revolution.
    If the Syrian revolution is smashed then the hope that the peoples of the world can avoid further terrible destruction at the hands of rampant imperialist wars and mercenary killings is that much less.

  3. Andy K says:

    This whole miserable affair demonstrates the wisdom of the old proverb–the first casualty of war is truth.

  4. Helena says:

    Ron Paul knew what would be what way back in 2009: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s_IUwwGq-A
    and Bix Weir says he knows what is what now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YYfz-DBvaU
    I don’t know what’s what but a President who invites Robert Kennedy Jnr to investigate CDC and vaccines is okay by me.

  5. Ian Kiddle says:

    We may not “know” but it is pretty clear 1. Who benefitted. 2. Who would be an idiot to use chemical weapons as he was winning the war. 3. Who acted without waiting for an investigation and real evidence. 4. Who attacked a sovereign state and is thus guilty of Aggression, a war crime defined in the Nuremberg War Crime Tribunals. 5. Who has done this before re WMD’s in Iraq. 6. Who has lied and lied and relied on the hopelessly partisan White Helmets and MI6 funded, London based, one man, Syrian Observatory for Human Rights for their evidence against Assad. 7. Who prematurely accused Russia of bombing an aid convoy only to have it completely disproved. Never got a mention in the MSM though.
    On the other hand there are independent journalists and a few politicians with the courage to actually go to Syria and report factually

    https://21wire.tv/2016/10/07/crosstalk-white-helmets-really-with-vanessa-beeley-eva-bartlett-patrick-henningsen/

    https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/congresswoman-tulsi-gabbard-returns-syria-renewed-calls-end-regime-change-war

    http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/US-senator-in-Syria-Legitimate-Assad-government-is-fighting-terrorist-opposition-452466

    http://investmentwatchblog.com/assad-was-going-to-stop-trading-oil-on-the-usd-obama-weaponizes-syrian-rebels-syrian-rebels-turn-into-isis-now-we-bomb-assads-planes-am-i-missing-anything/

  6. Nailed it, Martyn.

  7. Pat O'Dea says:

    The one thing that I know for sure, is that the Assad regime is the closest thing the modern world has to genocidal fascism since the Pinochet junta.

    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/04/10/guest-blog-pat-odea-anyone-who-supports-the-assad-regime-in-syria-cannot-be-a-friend-of-the-palestinian-people/

  8. Mike in Auckland says:

    That LA article just shows us how ‘mad’ the whole situation in Syria is. I have looked at the Pentagon’s support for the Kurds fighting in the north and northeast (supported by US elite troops) with great suspicion. They are simply being used, as useful mercenaries for time being. Once ISIS is chased out of Raqqa and surroundings, new fights will break out. The Turkish government and army are anything but happy about the US supporting the Kurds in northern Syria.

    The war in Syria is far from over, and while Assad (supported by Russia, Iran and Hezbollah) and his SAA may win in some areas, the Saudis and some other Gulf state governments, and especially some private funders, they will see to it, that new arms and ammunition will be channeled to certain rebel groups.

    Hence fights flare up all over a sudden near Damascus and in the south of Syria. Idlib is far from falling into the SAA’s hands, so we can continue to try and work out who is doing what and winning or losing.

    As for the gas ‘attack’ or whatever the cause was, we will possibly never get the full truth, as the truth is the first victim in any war.

    I get a bit tired of certain commenters who seem to have all the answers, by referring to ‘infowars’ and some other peculiar ‘sources’ for information. But with any such murky situations, conspiracy theorists will have a hay-day with their views and supposed ‘evidence’.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2015/05/syria-country-divided-150529144229467.html

    https://syria.chathamhouse.org/?gclid=COP08K7hntMCFdgRvQodKxUEcw

    And once Mosul in Northern Iraq will have been taken back from ISIS control, we can expect new fights to erupt, between the ‘liberating forces’ about the control of the city and region.

    This is the Middle East, where borders were once drawn by colonial powers, ignoring the ethnic, cultural and religious spheres of settlement and influence. Now Pandora’s Box has been opened, new efforts are made by various groups, to establish new autonomous regions or even states, some neighbouring states may also try to occupy and annex parts of present day Syria.

  9. Pat O'Dea says:

    The Standard claim they know.

    https://thestandard.org.nz/framing-syria/

    To make sure that their disgusting slurs and islamaphobic narrative against the Syrian revolution and the Arab Spring is the only one allowed, The Standard have to depend very heavily on censorship and banning rather than allow open and honest debate that might question their certainty.

    https://thestandard.org.nz/heroes-2/

    https://thestandard.org.nz/the-propaganda-war/

    “Anyone claiming to know what is happening in Syria is pretending”

    Martyn Bradbury

    “Pretending” is a polite euphemism, lying might be a more accurate description.

  10. Red Buzzard says:

    ‘Is This The End Of The Trump Presidency?’

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-12/end-trump-presidency

    “On April 4 2017 in the Syrian city of Khan Shaykhun, a city controlled by western-backed terrorists, chemical weapons killed more than eighty civilians. Immediately, local and foreign sources (the White Helmets and Syrian Observatory, respectively, dubiously linked to Al Qaeda groups) blamed the Syrian Arab Army, accusing them of employing chemical agents.

    In the following forty-eight hours, the mainstream media flooded print media and the airwaves with information that alleged that Assad used chemical weapons. As is known, it is not the first time that the legitimate government of Syria has been accused of attacking its own people with weapons of mass destruction.

    In all similar events in the past, it has been later discovered that the chemical agents in question were used by the Al Nusra Front and Al Qaeda terrorists. In 2013, Obama tacitly rejected the argument that the Syrian Army used chemical weapons in Ghouta, deciding not to succumb to internal pressure to bomb Syria in response. Donald Trump required little confirmation before taking the initiative to cross the red line, openly attacking the Syrian army, even though his same intelligence community strongly doubted that the chemical attack took place according to the narrative advanced by the media.

    There are several hypotheses regarding what may have happened in Khan Shaykhun…

    …and Not even American scientists believe the neocon lies that Assad gassed his own people:

    ‘White House claims on Syria chemical attack ‘obviously false’ – MIT professor (VIDEO)’

    https://www.rt.com/usa/384520-postol-report-sarin-syria/

    MIT professor concludes:

    …” “We again have a situation where the White House has issued an obviously false, misleading and amateurish intelligence report,” he concluded, recalling the 2013 situation when the Obama administration claimed Assad had used chemical weapons against the rebels in Ghouta, near Damascus.

    “What the country is now being told by the White House cannot be true,” Postol wrote, “and the fact that this information has been provided in this format raises the most serious questions about the handling of our national security.”…

  11. Ian Kiddle says:

    Anyone who really wants to know what is happening in Syria would do well to follow this site.
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/