On Recent Opinion Polling

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In any case, whilst my affection for the Roy Morgan poll is well known, it is certainly not the only game in town. And the Reid Research material out the same day makes for some decidedly interesting comparison-work between the two analyses.

Yesterday, two polls were released – the latest Roy Morgan andmost recent Reid Research. They’re both interesting, albeit for almost entirely different reasons.

The Roy Morgan data is probably what folks with an implicit left-wing bias will be most interested in; due to its showing a reduction in National support of 4.5%, and corresponding rise in Labour/Greens support of 5% – for totals of 43.5%, 29.5%, and 14.5% respectively.

The explanations for these rather radical shifts in numbers are immediately obvious. After a somewhat protracted ‘honeymoon period’, Bill English’s tenure as Prime Minister has started to enter rocky territory. His comments on large-scale immigration being justified because Kiwi workers were allegedly unemployable due to drug use did not resonate as they might once have, leading to a backdown of sorts shortly afterward in which he conceded that changing immigration policy-settings might be possible. The recent (and ongoing) semi-literal quagmire over water – whether pollution of waterways, or the extraction of our resources for a pittance to be sold offshore as the latest example of Kiwi-victimizing Neo-Colonialism – has also followed a similar trend. Namely, inflammatory statements made to the media [although in this instance, by Environment Minister Nick Smith] based on either a misreading of public sentiment or just sheer bloody-mindedness, followed up in relatively short order by a signaled possible change in position.

On top of this, English’s apparent determination to walk the fine line between death and destruction entailed in messing with superannuation will also have cost him. It was, after all, the same issue which effectively sealed the fate of Labour at the last Election, and which has caused serious problems for the National Party in previous contests (admittedly, mostly in the 1990s). Although if the controversy over the retirement age is actually a salient causation in National’s shedding of votes in the Roy Morgan, then it is somewhat surprising indeed that New Zealand First [on 7.5% – a reduction of 0.5% on the previous poll] has not been a greater beneficiary.

Perhaps this indicates that there are indeed some stirrings of mood out there in the electorate for a fulsome change of government, rather than mere dissatisfaction with the present regime; meaning voters who’d otherwise gravitate towards NZF are exercising trepidation in doing so due to media speculation that we’d side with National.

To these factors we may also be able to add Labour’s decision to elevate Jacinda Ardern to the Deputy Leadership. Regardless of whether one thinks she’s made a truly substantive contribution to our nation’s politics over the previous decade, it would appear indisputable that she is the highest-profile Deputy Leader of the party since the days of Michael Cullen. And, as we shall see when it comes to dissecting the Reid Research poll’s Preferred Prime Minister results, her promotion alone has certainly made a bit of an impact. Certainly, it is difficult to imagine a situation in this Parliamentary Term wherein Winston Peters has found himself out-polled by a Labour Party MP for Preferred PM [indeed,according to this list from Wiki, it is an event without precedent going back to the last Election.]

In any case, whilst my affection for the Roy Morgan poll is well known, it is certainly not the only game in town. And the Reid Research material out the same day makes for some decidedly interesting comparison-work between the two analyses.

Particularly because in many respects they flat-out contradict one another.

In contrast to the Roy Morgan’s falling National but rising Labour/Greens, Reid Research has National increasing by 2% to 47.1%, Labour falling by 1.9% to 30.8%, and the Greens dropping 0.3% to 11.2%. New Zealand First, meanwhile, has fallen 0.5% to 7.6%.

So what to make of this. Well, for starters, it’s probably worth noting that Reid Research have just changed their polling methodology in a bid to reach out to different [and traditionally less-contactable] voters. It’s possible that that has had an impact upon the results we’re seeing here, although difficult to determine whether this axiomatically makes their conclusions more or less accurate than their previous and more exclusively landline-based efforts. Certainly, a cursory look at their record in the immediate run-up to the 2014 and 2011 General Elections would appear to suggest that Reid Research’s old methodology had some noticeable flaws in it [consistently over-polling the Greens, and having National’s result out by more than two percentage points – which in this day and age is the literal difference between Governments continuing or falling upon the ashheap of history].

The alternate interpretation, of course, is that Reid Research’s new-and-sharper methodology is, in fact, on the money – and that the cautious optimism which was beginning to break out on the Left in recent weeks has found itself somewhat misplaced. Certainly, this would be in demonstrable keeping with the trends of previous Elections, wherein at every turn the ‘hope’ that the latest scandal of whatever flavour would be National’s undoing has turned to ashes in our mouths as they’ve emerged in each successive poll or popular vote almost entirely unscathed. Indeed, almost seeming to ‘feed’ off the controversy!

Personally, if I were a Labour supporter – and, not for the first time, I must confess to feeling inordinately glad that I am not – I’d probably be attempting to look for a ‘silver lining’ [other than Winston] in the form of both polls discussed here having Labour at or about 30%. It’s probably a sign of how dismal Labour’s prospects have been for the last few years that this is somehow an achievement worthy of note – and yet, it is. Thirty percent is where a party can start to credibly claim to be one of the ‘Big Two’; in rather marked contrast to its previous low-twenties polling, which had many commentators (myself included) wondering how long until Labour effectively wound up relegated to semi-official ‘Minor Party’ status. [The requisite number for that, if you are wondering, would probably be semi-consistently scoring below twenty percent; although as Bill English-era National so handily demonstrated fifteen years ago, there is no axiomatic rule of political gravity which definitively states that a result just above 20% is unrecoverable from]

Having said that, instead of taking either of the above polls as ‘good news’ [an understandable eschewment], many Labourites will presumably be instead attempting to cast doubt upon the veracity and utility of opinion polling all up. Perhaps they will even be once again quoting former National Party Prime Minister [and arguable, in some ways, proto-Bill English] and resorting to his famous political maxim: “Bugger the polls!”

But this would be a bit of a mistake. It’s no secret that political polls can occasionally be substantially inaccurate. The results from the US Presidential Election and Brexit both serve to bear this out in an Anglosphere context. There, as is now well known, the inaccuracies in results lead to an indelible false sense of security on the part of the ‘Establishment’ sides of those contests. Which fed into overconfidence, and consequent defeat.

It would, perhaps, be too much to hope for a similar occurrence here in New Zealand. Namely, that the National Party buys into the myth of electoral invincibility off the back of a few polls which have them in the mid-high 40s, and starts making ever-more-significant errors. Although some are, of course, of the opinion that we are already starting to see this happen. [A phenomenon which we can also tie fairly directly to the much-dreaded ‘Third-Term-Itis’]

Instead, the reason why it would be arguable folly for Labour supporters to write off polls entirely is a simple one. They appear to be getting more accurate.

This means that while it might have once been true – most especially in both of 2005 and 2008, wherein many polls had Labour and National several percentage points off, and often in pretty much inverted positions in terms of their rough support, these errors diminished in 2011 [with the exception of auguries for the Green Party’s result – who appear to remain prone to chronic over-estimation by as much as 4%], and by 2014 had been reduced to frequently less than a percent out from the actual final electoral result. Particularly where Labour is concerned.

It would be both cumbersome and somnolence-inducing to go through poll-by-poll and show this; but as a sort of evidentiary shorthand, we’ll take a brief excursion through the  final Roy Morgan poll of the 2014 Campaign season.

This had National on 46.5%, Labour on 24%, The Greens on 13.5%, NZ First on 8%, the Maori Party on 1.5%, Internet MANA on 1%, the Conservatives on 3.5%, and each of ACT and United Future on 0.5% apiece [which is considerably better than the 0% they’d registered in some – admittedly perhaps rather optimistic – predictions].

How did this compare with the actual results of the 2014 General Election? Well, National 47.04%, Labour 25.13%, Greens 10.7%, NZ First 8.66%, Maori 1.32%, Internet MANA 1.42%, Conservatives 3.97%, ACT 0.69% and a whole 0.22% for United Future [which, as it happens, is less than half of the Aotearoa Legalize Cannabis Party’s 0.46%, but I digress].

That represents a difference of 0.54% for National between the Roy Morgan and the eventual result; 1.13% for Labour, 2.8% for the Greens [who, as noted, are almost invariably overpolled]; 0.66% for New Zealand First; 0.18% for the Maori Party; 0.42% for InternetMANA; 0.47% for the Conservative Party; 0.19% for ACT; and 0.28% [admittedly more than its entire vote, but bear in mind the Roy Morgan moves in 0.5% increments] for United Future.

That’s pretty dang close.

So, given the Roy Morgan is the same poll which yesterday had Labour and the Greens swelling by a combined total of 5% to beat National … perhaps there IS some hope for a non-National Government come 2018 after all.

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7 Comments

  1. Kim dandy says:

    I have never been a fan of polls, personally think they should be banned, as they are only a tool for manipulating the public.
    Look at the polls taken in the last American election to see how squewed they were and tampered with!
    Sorry, Good or bad I no longer trust any poll.

  2. Strypey says:

    “voters who’d otherwise gravitate towards NZF are exercising trepidation in doing so due to media speculation that we’d side with National”

    NZ First needs to declare that it won’t side with National post-election, or at least, as the Greens did in previous elections, offer a set of policy bottom lines that effectively rule it out unless National becomes a totally different party policy-wise. Until one of these things happens, voters have to assume NZ First will repeat the mistake they made in propping up the Bolger government, and act accordingly.

    On the subject of polls, it’s become clear to me over 30 years of election-watching that polls are a self-fulfilling prophecy, and even more so in the MMP environment because of “strategic voting”. Would NZ First support a moratorium on the publication of poll results for at least a month before election day (ideally 3 months)? This would oblige people to actually pay attention to policy debates and such, and vote for the party that most closely represents them, rather than treating the whole thing as a horse race where the goal is to vote for the winner.

  3. Sunny says:

    I was asked to answer questions for that Reid poll. One in particular seemed weird. It went something like this. “In an MMP election which party would you vote for?” I tried to clarify if the questioner meant which party would I give my party vote to and which party would I give me electorate vote to but she insisted that I give one answer. So if the result is inaccurate then look no further than that question.

    Which raises another question perhaps…..is polling done in a certain way to influence the result of the election?

    • Geoff Lye says:

      yeah the polling is still done first past the post style.

    • That’s a fairly seriously flawed question, Sunny. Of course, the correct question should be;

      “If a general election were held today which party would you give your Party Vote to?”

      In Ohariu, Epsom, and the Maori electorates, a follow-up question could be asked;

      “If a general election were held today which Candidate in your Electorate would you give your Electorate Vote to?”

  4. Castro says:

    Given that No Zealand allows foreigners with permanent residence to vote, and given that the No Zealand government grants 700 permanent residences per week, I wonder if any researcher is looking into the fact that 50% of those who vote for our Transnational Capital Party are in fact foreigners. Talk about putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

  5. Takere says:

    Its the “Trend(s) & Trajectory” that matters man! Start Dec 2016 and month by month ….